• Revan343@lemmy.ca
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    So, uh…does the UK government understand what happens when the punishment for speech is the same as the punishment for violence?

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      8 days ago

      You can’t say that this is a Christian server, where we support mass murder, like the good people that we are.

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        It’s fine, it only became shocking horrible proscribed terrorism speech at exactly midnight on the 5th July.

        Since this commenter posted that sentiment on Friday, July 4th, 2025 at 10:05:07 PM GMT+01:00 He/She remains an upstanding, law abiding citizen

        1 hour and 55 minutes later though…

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    I don’t disagree that it wasn’t a reasonable protest and those responsible should be prosecuted for the criminal damage etc… but to list them as a terrorist group because of one non-terrorising action is a tad ridiculous, counter-intuitive, and the optics for the government are terrible.

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      don’t disagree that it wasn’t a reasonable

      You broke my brain with that one

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        Fair enough, I wouldn’t disagree that it wasn’t the worstn’t way to word it.

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          Hahaha I got what you were saying but I had to read the first part like 5 times. All good though 👍

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        It’s Blair actually. His gvmt put through the changes to the Terrorism act in (I think) 2001 that has allowed this sort of thing to happen.

        One of the ironies of this whole situation is that Yvette Cooper has expressed admiration for the Suffragette movement numerous times, including in the Commons. A movement that self-described as terrorists

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    This is absurd.

    Yes Palestine Action broke the law by damaging insanely expensive property. And like any protest that dose this. The right or wrong of the cause has no effect on the legal requirements of the actions.

    CND, Greenpeace and many many other protest organisations have also commited expensive crimes over the decades.

    When a government starts deciding what citizens can or cannot support rather the how. It is no different to banning book or speech.

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      It’s lost. Keeps passing ridiculous laws that only effect 0.1% of people just to look like it’s doing something. On many occasions people charged for breaking these laws get to court, and the laws are then overturned by judges because they contradict another law.

      I expect this is what will happen here, eventually, but it might take 7 years to happen

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    When Keir took over Labour and expelled thousands of decent left members for vague reasons it was clear of the authoritarian nature of him. At the time, I asked what do you think he’ll do if in charge of the state apparatus.

    This is just the start.

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    Sorry but of course they got banned. If they didn’t then the government would be sending the message that military sites are fair game and suddenly undermining the UK’s military preparedness would be a legitimate form of protest. If this had happened in the US they’d probably be facing the death penalty for treason.

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      They already sent that message. The moment anyone gets on one of those sites an alert should have gone off, and within minutes, they should have been apprehended. This is our air defense! Russian’s regularly fly past our air space even before Ukraine war and we have to scramble jets immediately. If they take these out, we’re sitting ducks.

      John Healey, the defense secretary called for an immediate review of all sites because he knew it was shit and unacceptable.

      Do you think if the Russians broke in, it would be red paint? This is a sideshow distraction.