Not to mention voluntarily installing some of the worst spyware…

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    For actual tips though, healthygamersgg on YouTube/Twitch is an excellent resource. He is a licensed therapist and has a ton of adhd videos and other topics.

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      This is only the half of it. Dude spent years becoming a monk and learned a bunch of meditation techniques and practices that have been transformative for me. I’ve been looking at ADHD resources on YouTube for years and no one else I’ve seen there have the insights he does. I ended up purchasing his guide but just going through his YouTube catalog I’m still finding videos that are gold.

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        He’s also given me a lot of topics that taught me how to actually recognize issues that I had, and to bring that to my personal therapist to talk about. They really work well together!

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      This might be a personal issue, but to me the vibes feel off with him. I’m not against someone self promoting, it just seems like every video of his I’ve seen has him wedging his $75 guide and $600 “group coaching” into conversations whenever he can. I’m not saying he’s wrong about anything or that his videos aren’t useful, he just comes off as very used car salesman to me.

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        A lot of his approach seems to be based on vedic philosophy, and all that is available free if you don’t want to go through him. You can walk into a temple and leave with free books because they believe knowledge should be free. All they ask is you pass the book on when you’re finished.

        I’ve got nothing against the guy though, I don’t know enough about him, just pointing out that you can get the knowledge free if you want to.

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          I like Dr. K and think the content he puts out is important and useful, but there are a few items with his approach that I don’t appreciate. In a few of his earlier videos, he uses an example of a farmer vs. a hunter (or something thereabouts) to explain why certain unproductive thoughts can be reoccurring in people. I find that this has a lot of overlap with evolutionary psychology, which has an evidence problem and is often employed by “mindset grifters” to move product. I’m not saying that Dr. K is one of those grifters, but I’m concerned that his employment of it might “soften up” viewers to that kind of logic. So that when an actual grifter employs it, the person would be more receptive to being scammed.

          But even so, I still want to stress that I think there’s a lot of good in his content and I think offering as much free content as he does is a public service.

          Edit: sorry, i forgot to tie this back to your comment. He often in his earlier videos tied back those evolutionary psychology examples to concepts in Vedic philosophy and meditation. I think that could be dangerous for the reasons above, with the added issue of tying evidence-based science to things that can’t be evidenced (like someone having a certain tendency present in Vedic thought). I have the same objections to that as I would astrology. But of course if people find either of those things helpful to their mental health journey, more power to them.

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          It’s not wrong but any time someone is giving advice and selling something at the same time, it calls into question their motives and integrity.

          Just means we should be suspicious, that’s all. Lots of scammers out there.

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              and Dr. Oz is a cardiac surgeon. not to say healthygamergg is scamming or anything, but medical professionals with media careers should be treated with at least a little skepticism.

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                That’s a really extreme and insulting comparison. Can you post an example of anything that’s remotely questionable content from healthygamersgg?

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                  I mean that thing where he said to stop eating any/all spicy food and eat plain yogurt if you have anger issues seemed a little weird. Like can offer some plausible deniability but it seems like the notion comes more from “traditional medicine” and iirc there’s not much research on the subject. One of his chatters challenged him on it and he basically told them that maybe some of the ancient wisdom actually has a point, the science just hasn’t caught up yet, trust him on this one. I don’t disagree with the sentiment in general, science won’t always have the answer to a specific question, but I do get weary when people use try to use that to offer their specific remedies.

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              And someone can’t be licensed and potentially be pushing their own products for financial gain?

              Not really saying that’s exactly what he’s doing but just saying they’re licensed doesn’t put a person above reproach, especially when it comes to selling things to people.

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            Maybe something like the sponsorblock addon could help

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              Although that only hides the sponsored segments, they’re still there, and potentially influencing the advice he gives.

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          If he wants to sell his guides for $75, yeah I think that’s overpriced but he can set the price he wants. It’s the whole group coaching thing that seems most sketch to me. A group of up to 7 people all having what he legally can’t imply is group therapy, but the website advertises that it helps reduce anxiety and depression. His brand is all about mental health, and to me it just skirts too close to doing a bait and switch.

          I’m also not a huge fan of the math on their customer cost:coach payment. For group sessions it’s $30/session/person, but their coach base salary is $20/hour and “up to” $37.50/hour. There aren’t any insurance costs or office rent or anything else like this being eaten up here.

          All of this stuff is technically legal, I just find it distasteful and it makes me suspicious.

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              I’ve paid more than that for therapy sessions, I’m well aware of how fucked the costs are. But they aren’t comparable. Therapy is a one on one session with a licensed professional who is providing you with an evaluation and potentially treatment, versus an ebook written by a doctor. I’m not saying it’s useless information, but you can probably get comparable books from your local library for free.

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    “I think my phone is more interesting than gardenwork”
    Bro that’s ADHD!
    “I sometimes forget where i put my keys”
    That’s ADHD for sure you should get meds

    On ADHD-TikTok everything is ADHD

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    This is like telling a crack head that there is an awesome support group for addiction in this dilapidated crack house down the street.

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      That’s precisely my reaction. Shorts is like damn crack. I look up after two hours, “Shit, I have to get up in a couple hours”

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    The only “resources” on tiktok that might actually help, are just videos of users giving the viewer general words of affirmation and support. And it’s not gonna fix you; it would just boost your mood a little and maybe get you out of a slump.

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    TikTok does have a ton of misinformation, projections of learned helplessness, and recommendations of pseudoscience/under-studied treatments; but if you are a TikToker and really want to get ADHD tips there, here are a few users I’ve found that actually seem to know what they’re talking about:

    • HowToADHD (Jessica McCabe)
    • The_ADHD_Nutritionist (Marley Alex)
    • ADHDVision
    • ADHD_Coach_Ryan (ADHD Coach Ryan Mayer)

    Though even with them, take what they say with a grain of salt, do your homework, and talk to your doctor/therapist/executive function coach before implementing stuff that may impact your wellbeing. Also, be mindful of recommendations that are also paid sponsorships.

    I follow a couple more, personally, but I don’t feel comfortable recommending them because their suggestions and the information they provide can be a bit dubious at times.

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      i hate how people have to dance around giving proper tips with so much occluded tiptoey bullshit language. who talks to their doctor like it’s a normal thing

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        It’s about personal responsibility. I’m not an expert, and I’m not going to pretend to be–especially when it comes to someone’s health. I feel like it’s important to make an effort to avoid misleading anyone.

        It’s also a good idea to talk to your doctor when you have quetions. I’ve consulted my doctor about supplements, water intake, and all kinds of seemingly innocuous things. When it comes to my ADHD, I talk to my care team regularly about the stuff I’m doing/not doing.

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          Do you live in the US? How can you afford to talk to a doctor about drinking water?

          And, I confess, what exactly is so mysterious and/or dangerous about drinking water that you can’t just read about it on Wikipedia?

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            I mean, I don’t make an appointment for all of that, I just send an email. My doctor is cool with it if I email them non-urgent questions and they will just get back to me when they can. I don’t do it often, but every once in a while if I have a question or concern about my health, I just send off a quick email.

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            A primary care pgysitian I’d you have health insurance is not to terribly expensive. And their are primaries at least where I live that will do direct primary care with no insurance for less than the cost of insurance.

            And I spend so much time with my doctor because my health conditions and hormone therapy require regular visits with doctors

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        No seriously I do this and I went to my doc like 6 times over a year to find the right balance of my meds, while seeing a therapist who I’d also talk about treatment. Your primary care should be the best place to refer you to a specialist or talk you down if you don’t need it.

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      I’m sure 1 in 100 TikToks are probably good, but I just can’t make it through the amount of bad videos on there… the good stuff gets shattered on other platforms anyway.

      By the way, I was helping a buddy job hunting… holy cow, TikTok has a huge number of open jobs, like 650 in Seattle alone.

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    People do that shit with YouTube too.

    Me: “I’m looking for resources on this technology.”

    Them: “Here watch this 1 hour YouTube video from a random influencer who you can trust. Just ignore his ads to buy crypto.”

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      Or stuff like

      Me- mentions in passing that I have a chronic illness

      Them- watch this 2 hour rambling video about a completely different condition and you’ll be cured

      Me- no, that would be like telling a paraplegic to watch a video about diabetes and then they’ll no longer be paralyzed

      Them- I was just trying to help, you just want to be in pain for the pity party

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      Yes! Why is it like this? I hate when people tell me to watch some video essay on a disorder - like why the fuck am I listening to some random person on youtube with no credibility??

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          I feel like its usually accompanied by things like “this person did a deep dive on this subject, you should watch this!”

          Like… I can spend 6 hours doing a deep dive myself?

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      Me: “I’ve gotten so bad at retaining focus when watching a video that it’s sometimes difficult to even finish songs”

      Them: “this 3 hour lecture by Professor Bland and this 5 hour Fortnite stream session from Immortal Wombat have some good tips!”

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    Why would anyone trust tik tok ad a source for ANY information at all?! That’s like watching the Sifl and silly episode where they dance to the Du Hast video to learn German.

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    As terrible as tiktok can be, it is literally the place that showed me I have adhd… later confirmed by profesionals once I knew to ask. Had I not dabbled on tiktok during the pandemic, I’d probably still be wondering what’s wrong with me… not that I’m saying adhd is “wrong”, just that for 40 years, I always knew I wasn’t neuro-typical and couldn’t function the same as others without having any answers as to why. I would frequently fall into a debilitating spiral of self-loathing and mental abuse, convinced that I was somehow at fault. Finally, having an answer has helped immensely, and unfortunately, I have tiktok to thank for this.

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      Same boat, except I was diagnosed before hand. I was scrolling one night and adhd content started started to appear where people were talking about how it impacted their lives (albeit via stupid lists). It actually pinpointed a lot of behaviours I exhibited and put meaning to them. I was sceptical at first but started to see more and more of the same behaviours being highlighted, so I wrote them down and took them back to my shrink, who sat down and went thru them with me and we started to work through them. Was actually quite helpful.

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    idk why but i never got tiktok. the all-powerful mystical algorithm that hijacks your brain just didn’t work on me. it’s all politics bullshit and lame facebook memes.

    hell, the fedi (both lemmy and the microblog-verse) has “wasted” more of my lifespan overall than tiktok.

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      If you told it you didn’t like that content it would just try something else. Or searched your interests so it knows what you’re looking for. My feed is full of only my interests 99.9% of the time. Everyone complaining about only getting cringy content is really telling on themselves here lol

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        Everyone complaining about only getting cringy content is really telling on themselves here lol

        even in the deepest, darkest, secret-est parts of my soul i have no interest in any content (a) in Arabic and (b) of imams. i can’t even understand a word of Arabic and am not religious, yet apparently that was the most up to date profile tiktok had on me the last time i tried it out. (which was the 3rd time or so) and i even made an account and signed in.

        the politics bullshit and lame facebook-grade memes were the “best” it could muster. as in, the only things i understood.

        maybe it works better in an english speaking and not-religious-asf country.

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          Nah you probably just didn’t give it much of a chance then. Especially if you think it caters to the religious crowd lol. They get torn apart in my little corner of tiktok. My entire feed is cooking, crochet, gardening, gaming, cats, random memes, and for some reason chickens. I don’t know why it decided I wanted to see people’s pet chickens but it was indeed very correct. The only political stuff I get for the most part is people I follow in politics