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They had to mute the booing but they “win” televote. Mossad have been busy tonight.
Last year, you could not hear boos when Israel entered, but you heard some between the time the Greek flag (which is the same colours) was seen and Greece was announced, which seemed telling.
eurovision needs to go away. its just naked nationalism, and supporting war crimes should be a stake in its heart. Israel is not even close to being in Europe.
This is last year. There are claims that they did it again this year.
Not claims, they confirmed it themselves.
Europe is just America 5 years behind
I disagree. They’re more educated in Europe on average. That’s the key ingredient to our vulnerability in the US.
This is by design. Carlin
Damn he was right. I miss him.
He is the primary reason why I keep listening to comedians of all kinds regardless of criticism.
I clearly recall my fairly conservative father sneering at a Carlin interview in the late 80s, and twenty-odd years later watching a clip reel and marveling at how many things he said that were borne out.
He’s a big reason why I can’t be mad at comedians - even if I disagree with them - because there is truth in comedy that you sometimes cannot hear amidst the noise of conventional wisdom or cultural trends.
There are few absolutes, so I hold my truths lightly and question them often
The Weimar Republic was the most educated place in the world before WWII. Education certainly can help but its not a panacea.
Yeah. I mean the US was founded by religious extremists who fled Europe, so of course it’s the same.
Religious extremists that knew religion has no place in government.
“In God We Trust” - the United States motto, written on its currency.
You won’t find that shit in Euro notes.
You’ve been had my friend, given the run around, fed a line of bullshit, treated like a patsy.
To be fair, that didn’t become the motto until the 1950s, and (I had to Google this) it wasn’t on any currency until almost a hundred years after the revolution. The founding fathers, for all their flaws, were pretty adamant about keeping the church separate from the state, most of them being either deists, naturalists, or atheists.
Guess it all got subverted in the meanwhile with Religion and Politics becoming increasingly mixed.
Europe, on the other hand, has being going in the opposite direction of that, especially since the mid XX century.
The point being that it’s not Europe that mixes Politics with Religion anymore (well, mainly, there is still some of that shit in some places), it’s the US.
That it goes against the spirit with which the American Founding Fathers founded the country should add insult to injury to any American who thinks State should be separate from Church.
I believe @Dojan was referencing the Puritans, not the founding fathers.
the US was founded by religious extremists
I’ll disagree
Banning Joost Klein was when I dropped eurovision already, what a ****show. They ban an artist for nothing, but they don’t ban Israel… Okay… ???
