That’s great and all. But you seem to forget, “It’s the economy stupid.”
You lot need to join Bernie and AOC’s campaign.
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Tankies literally ally with the bad to fight the good. And perfect doesn’t exist.
Anyone who is against fascism is an ally in the fight against fascism, no matter how flawed.
We can settle other differences by talking them out, but that can never be done with fascism because it only ever listens to painful consequences.
Democrats spent a solid year supporting an ongoing genocide.
You no longer get to pretend to be good.
Your guy got elected already, you don’t have to talk about genocide anymore.
He’s not my guy, which is why I’m still talking about your only actual policy.
Too late man… Have you seen the comments here? We’ve got people unironically saying “blue MAGA”.
After everything that’s happened, they’re still pretending both sides are the same. It’s pathetic.
That implies democrats are good, which… uh… gestures broadly.
Democrats, generally speaking, are imperfect, but not systemically bad.
Uh… gestures broadly again? Democrats are seat warmers whose number 1 goal is to make sure the left doesn’t take power. Their number 2 goal is to make sure neoliberals stay in power both in the party and in the government. They’re systemically inadequate and systemically enforce their inadequacy on the American people. They’re at least as much of a problem as Republicans themselves.
The Democrats passed legislation that cut child poverty IN HALF. They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation against unwaivering opposition from the entire GOP. They established the CFPB. They’ve pushed a ton of climate legislation. There’s plenty of good things the Democrats have done, even with absolutely razor thin margins and ZERO help from the other party.
And to be clear: the Democratic party has fucking sucked donkey balls for decades, but they are nowhere near the level of malevolence that conservatives present.
They’re at least as much of a problem as Republicans themselves.
This is such a giant load of horseshit and should result in literally everyone discounting what you say. You are living in a completely different reality. This both sides nonsense is exactly that.
They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation against unwaivering opposition from the entire GOP.
They had a supermajority and what did they pass? Literally Romneycare. Like dude if this is your “the DNC is good” pitch then you should think about the possibilities that they squashed by making their healthcare “overhaul” a literal Republican policy.
There’s plenty of good things the Democrats have done, even with absolutely razor thin margins and ZERO help from the other party.
Where did I imply otherwise? I didn’t say they’re out there causing damage on the scale of the Republicans; you have Republicans for that. I said they’re inadequate, which you seem to agree with.
And to be clear: the Democratic party has fucking sucked donkey balls for decades, but they are nowhere near the level of malevolence that conservatives present.
And who stops you when you try to make the sort of radical change necessary to stop conservatives from taking power? Hint: It’s the fucking neoliberals. Who stole the candidacy from Bernie not once but twice? Again the fucking neoliberals. And who’s trying to stop David Hoggs from trying replacing the people doing all this with young progressives (aka people exceeding the bare minimum of political competence and human decency)? Again the fucking neoliberals.
You need both the rachet and the gear to keep up this bad boy, and that’s the point I’m trying to make. The Democrats’ role in this nonsense isn’t to ruin everything (though they do some of that too), but to pave the way for Republicans to take power and ruin everything.
Perfect and good aren’t even on the table here.
These LGBT+ social issues are one of the wedges that’s being used by the wealthy to prevent the rest of us from banding together against them.
Nearly everyone agrees, the ownership class has too much, while the working class has too little. That’s the problem of this age that needs to be fixed.
The whole Democratic Party needs to be shouting “Tax The Rich.” And coming up with legislation to do so. If I was picking apart that bill for not doing enough, then maybe your accusation would fit.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/h104
No one’s asking for perfect. We’re asking for representation. Pushing any “progressive” legislation while also voting to literally gut the first amendment gets you what? It gets you PR and that’s it.
More performative bullshit by Blue MAGA. The Dems controlled the house and the senate for the first two years of Biden’s term. That would have been a nice time to introduce this bill and codify Roe v Wade. They are doing it now because they know it has no chance. The corporations that own the Dems are the same corporations that own the GOP. They work for corporate wealth and conservative Christian religious fanatics. Neither of those groups wants equality of any kind. The Dems do nothing when they have a majority and pretend to try to help when they have no chance of helping. This is WWE cosplay conflict.
That would have been a nice time to introduce this bill and codify Roe v Wade.
But then Democrats would have had to handle the backlash of an energized conservative movement and the complacency of a satisfied base. Now Democrats get enormous cash injections every time a Republican takes another swing at women’s health and can force any leftists to knuckle under when presented with the Serial Rapist Loud And Proud Woman Hater candidate running against the Slimy Moderate Corporate Shill Who Definitely Isn’t Going to Get MeToo’d Six Weeks Into Office.
The Dems do nothing when they have a majority and pretend to try to help when they have no chance of helping.
And they benefit enormously from this strategy, because liberals displace blame to the left and right of the Do-Nothing Party.
They’ve fully bought into the theory that conservatives must be pandered to and leftists must be disciplined into compliance. And this is the only way anyone wins elections.
Exactly. Ever since 2016, when Bernie was not the candidate after winning the primaries, I realized that nothing mattered. The elite were going to do whatever they want and there is nothing we can do to stop them. They distract us with dem vs rep dog and pony shows to divide us further. I’m seeing just as much hate and racism from the left as the right. It’s crazy. I thought we were supposed to be all about peace and love and equality. But I learned that if you don’t agree with them 100% you are a “nazi” or a “white supremacist” even if you aren’t white lol. Until we come together as united people and decide to fight back against capitalism and the billionaire elites hoarding all the resources and destroying our Earth, we may as well consider us all doomed to slavery.
Ever since 2016, when Bernie was not the candidate after winning the primaries,
Not true. Bernie lost the DNC nomination by 3 million votes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Bernie ran a good campaign, and would have been the better candidate, and the DNC put their thumb on the scale for Hillary, but he did not win the primary.
this is such a fucking waste of time and is nothing more than pandering bullshit. we don’t want you to try to pass something that WON’T PASS and WON’T STOP FASCISM. please do something more. please do something that fucking matters.
You are wanting people whose literal job is to legislate, which they were elected to do in order to represent the voice of their constituents on legislative matters, to stop trying to legislate in an effort to build legal walls to defend against fascism?
This is a case where we need the dog-and-pony show. We need everyone doing everything they can, especially the foundational things, so that later on no one can say “why didn’t they just try the normal way and things wouldn’t have been so difficult?”
Edit: we need our representatives to be doing more, I agree there, but I’m saying we need them do AT LEAST do their job, and we should probably be saying “Yes, and…” to them instead of just “you’re doing it wrong.”
Man I have to agree with OP. Do these things like a Dem version of Project 2025. Have an equality agenda when in power and actually make those changes. Fight facism now, because equality doesn’t mean shit if everyone in power is facist. They are deporting US Citizens for God’s sake.
nothing more than virtue signalling at this point, they know if they used it earlier, they probably wont have leverage over the voters to vote for them anymore. thier just stringing people long enough where they can still grift and quickly retire to another country or a wealthy community, where they are untouchable by the plebs.
if you can’t see through this charade i don’t know what to tell you.
I read deeper into the article than I care to admit because I wanted to find the date of original introduction.
The Equality Act was introduced in 1974, only 10 years after the civil rights act, which it sought to amend.
In the 8 legislative sessions where democrats have held a trifecta since the act’s introduction, they have not attempted to pass it (instead, favoring stripped down versions that often have many LGBT+ protections removed if a bill has been introduced at all). Every time it has lost the vote or died in committee. And now here we are, less than a week after Trump has moved to nuke the way that the CRA is enforced. So… if both succeed we are actually further from the goal.
Great. Good politics. Not ineffective virtue signaling while being passenger princesses on this ride to fascism at all.
nothing more than shore up some of thier dem elections in the futures, nothing more. its basically like republicans doing the opposite but it never passes in the senate too.
Its all a show, this bill has no chance of passing and they know this. The Democrat resistance is nothing more than smoke and pretty words.
I mean, yeah, what else are they supposed to do at this point, you took them out of every lever of power.
Don’t get me wrong I think the Democrats failed as much for the next guy but getting mad at them now after you’ve prevented them from doing anything at all just seems petty.
what else are they supposed to do at this point
Pull from the GOP playbook.
Obstruct everything. Shut down the government. Make unholy stinks on the floor of the House parading around big blown up pictures of dead women and summon mobs of angry constituents into the halls of Congress to yell at people. Tap the Blue State governors and legislatures to push radical pro-women policies, reject federal money whenever it comes with anti-abortion strings attached, and force local businesses to toe the party line if they want to interface with state governments. Make the lives of anti-abortion groups in the state hellish by running strings of investigations that seek to scandalmonger them. Lean on the press to focus on the havoc that these anti-abortion laws are causing. Run Project Veritas operations on those Anti-Abortion front groups that exist to profit off adoption services. Have the police surround and intimidate anti-abortion activist groups, while pro-choice groups are free to block the entrances to buildings, harass staff, and generally make any anti-abortion activist in the state fear for their lives.
Maybe start with voting no on the new censorship bill that just passed with unanimous consent that Trump specifically said he will abuse to silence people.
I mean they have so many options to move in any direction other than their shoulders up in a shrug.
valid.
This is how the Democrats communicate their values and intentions. And 30, 40, 100 years ago it would have worked, because the public looked for alternative solutions to problems. Today, the public wants a bully to assertively stand on camera and yell at them. The Democrats don’t do that, and it’s to their detriment.
But the time for all of this has passed, they’re rearranging deck chairs.
Farts and good intentions
While voting for Take it down.
nothing more than virtue signalling. they dont want to vote this act either, because they know its a thing they can use to garner votes.
If I had a nickel for every time a congressperson told me they introduced a new bill to address some issue, I’d be rich. In the age of Trump, people aren’t hoping their representatives are going to introduce dead on arrival legislation; they’re hoping their representatives will lead a national movement. We need people in the streets daily. We need occupy DC.
Oh fuck off and actually do something meaningful, FUCK. Sick of the posturing shit. Need to kick these geriatrics out and get some actual citizens that give a shit in these positions.
I’ve just lost faith in government completely.
I also don’t have faith in the economy, so it’s back to natural living like the Native Americans.
I’m honestly happier for it.
I feel yah man. Shit is ridiculously bleak.
As much as I appreciate this proposal, now is not the time for more identity politics. Now it’s a fight for basic democracy, the rule of law and against corruption.
Get out there and DO SOMETHING, Democrats
a little too late, how bout introducing something more effectively like limiting his ability to give out tariffs, or protecting voters from voter suppression.
Seems like some dems are starting to grow a spine and actually act like opposition. I doubt it’ll last though.
act like opposition
That’s the problem, it’s just an act. They didn’t try this in 2021 and 2022 when they controlled the house and the senate and the presidency. Why? Because they don’t want it any more than the GOP does.
100%. I’m just pointing out that this is a step up from what they’ve been normally doing these past 100 days which is sit idly by as our country is being raped and sliding into facism.
Seems like some dems are starting to grow a spine and actually act like opposition.
And look at the top comments on this thread to see how much Lemmy hates them for that.
Oh I hate them right now don’t get me wrong. I’m just happy they’re atleast trying to do something instead of being totally complacent as our county dies.
