hehe
Curious to know what this email conversation looks like. 🍿
git clone this before it gets taken down
Codeberg exists. But no people still have to just flock to corporate bullshit and then be surprised when they pull a corporate bullshit.
Codeberg is great, but it is hosted in Germany, and subject to their laws. AFAIK, Germany has laws against tools for “circumventing copy protection”, or “hacking”.
So I am not sure that they can provide a save haven for tools, where some lawyer could argue these points successfully in front of a court.
Also has the highest rate of website take-downs/bans. To be fair: mostly revenge “naked pictures of my ex” websites. But yeah. Piracy + Germany = not good. You’d rather turn to the Netherlands for that.
ActivityPub is amazing for censorship because anything that gets posted to one instance gets immediately archived thousands of times over.
The project is now being made available via a repo on cdm-project.com but how long that’s likely to last is unclear.
I’ve mirrored it to my own git server too https://git.ngram.ca/mirrors/cdrm-project I will ignore DCMAs because I (and the server) don’t live in the USA.
Canada might start ignoring DMCA as a whole if the idiots in my government keep harassing them. Maybe that’ll piss off Hollywood and friends in a useful way…
(Just ignore me laugh weeping at the prospect that billionaires stabbing each other in the back is the only thing I can look forward to in my country now)
I was wondering why these types of open source projects always push to Github, despite the latter always complying with DMCA. (I get that Github provides discoverabilty features, but it just isn’t worth it to have all your work taken down).
On a similar note, has anyone tried out https://radicle.xyz/? It’s supposed to actually make use of git’s peer to peer nature (and not the client server model that everyone adopts with git) and ideally provide discoverability features.
The said I’ve only read the faq and haven’t actually tried it myself. Basically I’m wondering if it’s worth doing a deep dive on this technology
Give CodeBerg a look. It’s starting to pick up some steam.
CodeBerg is a public instance of Forgejo. You can run your own local instance of Forgejo.
At some point they’ll have federation working so you’ll be able to use your home instance of Forgejo to interact with other projects/instances.
A lot of my favorite open source android apps have been switching to CodeBerg. Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram, unfortunately. That aside, CodeBerg is great and hopefully it will gain even more traction soon.
It’s nice that Obtainium supports CodeBerg, too. I have a few must-have apps that I like to keep up to date straight from their repositories.
Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram
I’m intrigued
Lol, its just my manga/anime apps. You can still find some of the repositories on github, but they moved all updates to TG. They also request users to not put the app name on any social media to avoid what happened to Tachiyomi.
There’s a large sweep going on with anime piracy atm, too. Github has been obliterating apps left and right.
It doesn’t catch on because entry level devs love committing private keys
But how else am I to verify my trust? I trust GitHub!
/s
There needs to be a widespread p2p solution for opensource projects before its too late. I have lost count of all the amazing stuff that has been gravity bombed from orbit.
There also needs to be a way for authors to submit things anonymously too and maybe sign their things with cryptographic keys to ID it. How many times has a company had a court order someone to cease and desist or simply acquire somebody’s work?
p2p solution for opensource projects
That’s called Git and it’s been around longer than GitHub. There is also Usenet which by now is mostly dead. People fell for centralized alternatives. Oops :)
Right? Git is literally decentralized. If you choose to use GitHub as a centralized Git service, that’s on you.
(I will caveat this by saying we moved 2009scape off GitHub and the number of new contributors probably got cut in half. Mainstream services have a lot more eyes)
2009scape is wonderful for those like me who need to scratch that RuneScape itch without a subscription. The fact I can play it off of a USB is testament to itself how incredibly awesome you guys are. Thank you for the project, sincerely. :')
How come Git is decentralized?
Doesnt it need a central component so I can pull your changes?Edit: Thanks to all that explained it to me :)
You can have arbitrarily many git “remotes”: GitHub, gitlab, your own custom forge, etc…
Git a cmd tool only. Your can remote wherever you like.
Fundamentally, the repository you have on GitHub is the same thing as the repository you have on your computer when you clone it. Pulling and pushing are shorthands for synchronizing commits between the two repositories, but you could also synchronize them directly with somebody else who cloned the repository. As somebody mentioned, you can also just host the same repository on two servers, and push to both of them.
The issue is that git doesn’t include convenient features like issues, pull requests, CI, wikis, etc., and by extensions, those aren’t included in your local repository, so if GitHub takes them down, you don’t have a copy.
An extra fun fact is that git can be considered a blockchain. It’s a distributed ledger of immutable commits, each one representing a change in state relative to the previous one. Everybody who clones a repository gets a copy of its entire history and fast forwards through the changes to calculate the current state.
But to push/pull you’d in theory need to port forward your git server/workstation, right?
Git works through ssh. So you need the same system as sshing into your machine. You just make a user group git and then let git and ssh handle things. And if you don’t need people to push to your repo, then it’s a lot easier as it’s now similar to hosting a website/file server.
Git exposes a lot of internals through odd commands, so I suspect you could manage synchronization by sending changes over email or something.
Bonus fun fact: there’s a
git bundlecommand that “dumps” the repository into a single file, that can be interacted with as a remote. So if you’re ever working with a local repository and want to put it on a server over ssh or something like that, you can just create a bundle, scp it over, and clone from that on the server.
Changes can come from anywhere. The Linux kernel itself doesn’t use any central repository like Github, it’s instead done via emailing patches that are eventually merged into the mainline kernel repository managed by Linus.
It is 100% decentralized.
mainline kernel repository managed by Linus.
It is 100% decentralized.
But… How does that work? The code has to be stored somewhere…
How does that work? The code has to be stored somewhere…
The code is replicated by everyone who works on it, and on various public and private servers, so you might say it’s stored everywhere.
…I need to watch a video on this 😂
Sounds like it’s centralized around Linus…
It’s just for the “last mile” where code gets packaged up into releases. There’s still thousands of developers that have all of the code on their machines as well, it’s just that their local repos aren’t the ones that end up in the hands of end users.
Git is, but it has no process of discovery or hosting by itself. Those are needed to efficiently share open source software to large numbers of people.
You’d think Usenet is dead.
It’s not.Oh boy it’s not! But mainly for binaries
git is clearly not p2p in the needed level or else we wouldn’t have faced this problem
I2p has a git service
I found https://radicle.xyz/ but I’ve never used this technology before. Maybe someone can shed some light?
It’s not always takedowns either, just the developer deciding to nuke their own repos. Real annoying, although it’s making me more vigilant about forking/mirroring important repos.
sent a complaint
project has been ejected
Bad pattern.
The moment when GitHub was bought by M$, the risk of such behavior started.
Widevine, BTW, is a Google product that all the browser vendors agree to use. Its the only reason HTML5 has gotten anywhere.
Its crazy that we can’t agree on any international rules except the ones that protect IP hoarding
Ngl if you pirate indie porn you are scum. Most people who make it aren’t well off.
not everyone that downloads content isn’t paying for it… they might just want it in a place or format that isn’t being provided
Is this a pirating tool or a tool for downloading local copies of what you did pay for? I know Fansly has weird settings where you lose access to stuff you paid for if you change your tier or need to lapse your membership for a bit. I stopped paying anyone when the archiving tool I used stopped working.
Like Katy Perry???
Don’t be a bell end
This just implies that the Microsoft employee was an OnlyFans subscriber simp.
