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    That’s what all the child molesters say, when they get caught on video pinning down a child. Where would a child get enough money for eggs?

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    If i saw a grown man pinning a young girl on the ground, im going to kick him in the head as hard as i can first, and ask questions later. I can’t think of a single reason that he would be justified in doing that.

    A vicious kick in the balls would be a good alternative.

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      I understand the emotion but the better option is to stop the aggressor with the minimum amount of force required to ensure he is stopped. No need to go full Punisher and open yourelf up to lawsuits.

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        If you’re going to get in a fight with a violent aggressor it’s best to end it as quickly as possible to minimize risk to yourself and others. Going for the minimum and misjudging that is going to leave you open to harm and potential death. You don’t owe the aggressor anything. Their actions created the situation not you.

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        Nah heat of the moment, but yeah excessive force is frowned upon just arm bar and wrap legs wait for cops (choke them for funsies)

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    He thought the girl was throwing eggs at his apartment. What a loser, tell the landlord to do something about it, it’s not even his property.

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    What a great way to make sure your house and car continue to get egged, more aggressively and more regularly to boot.

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    The city confirmed that Mutu started his job as a parking enforcement specialist last week, with an annual salary of $42,078,40.

    “He is currently suspended while the situation is under review,” a city spokesperson said

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    A Florida man ran down and pinned an 11-year-old girl he suspected of egging his home in a “reprehensible” confrontation that was caught on video, authorities said Monday.

    In Texas, it’s legal to shoot someone egging your house, as long as they’re doing it at night and you have a reasonable belief that you can’t otherwise safely stop them. Egging a house is criminal mischief.

    https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-9-42/

    Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property

    Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff

    A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

    (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

    (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

    (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

    (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

    (3) he reasonably believes that:

    (A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

    (B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

    EDIT: Also, where are all these people in Florida getting affordable eggs to egg with?

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      AND the land cannot be protected by any other means or is considered a substantial risk of serious bodily injury to the person shooting them.

      Firmly believe every judge would rule an 11 year old with eggs does not fulfill those requirements and therefore would likely be charged with manslaughter of some sort.

      Now… If they set foot inside their house, that might be a different story. Eggs I don’t think would be considered breaking into a house/vehicle/property

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        Can’t tell at night. Could be a short MS-13 member with a gun who’s egging the house. Even if you see they’re an 11 year old girl, she could also be a MS-13 super soldier.

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            As the sun began to rise, Meyer looked outside and saw what he thought was a black bag in the park.

            Shot in the neck outside his property. Is neither self defense or defense of property.
            Leaving the guy dying afterwards without calling an ambulance is also neglect of his responsibility.
            Even if it was inside his house, you can’t just leave somebody to die if they have been incapacitated.
            He simply completely lacked plausible deniability of any kind. So I don’t get what your point is.

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      texas

      Yeah I’ve heard enough

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      So they can shoot you in the back as you’re running away. got it.

      edit - See u/LifeInMultipleChoice comment

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      It’s bullshit the laws only count at night. It should be legal in the daytime too.

      If someone steals from you it’s literally legal to chase them down and shoot them to recover your property

      Best law in the nation in that regard

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      9.42(2)(B)'s last word “and” makes it clear to satisfy the statue one must:

      -Satisfy 9.41(1);

      -Satisfy either 9.41(2)(A) OR 9.41(2)(B); AND

      -Satisfy either 9.41(3)(A) OR 9.41(3)(B).

      That reading effectively reads the final requirement out of the text or presumes some extreme fact pattern that was not mentioned.

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    With this behavior from that guy, maybe there’s a reason his apartment is getting egged!

    The safety of our children is non-negotiable

    As long as the 2nd amendment stands, nobody has a right to safety in USA. The 2nd amendment simply doesn’t allow such a right.
    So yes the safety is non negotiable, because you can’t negotiate safety when the default is that everybody is allowed to own and carry deadly weapons.

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    Serious question, what are you meant to do when kids vandalize your shit, cops don’t care and you don’t know the parents?

    EDIT : Not defending the guy, just poor social skills to begin with.

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      I had a kid who lives a block over egg my house a few years ago on Halloween. A few weeks later I saw him riding his bike and stopped him and just asked him not to do it again because it was a pain to clean properly. He apologized, thanked me for not yelling at him and then laughed when he saw my house that hasn’t been power washed in years with just a few clean spots where his eggs hit.

      Now he comes over every week and plays soccer with me and my toddler and helps us with yard work in the summer.

      A little bit of human decency and talking to a kid like they’re a person can go along way. Kids aren’t stupid, they just don’t know a lot of things.

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        Wow. All of us just cosplaying at being adults, and you pull this power move. Are you Fred Rogers reincarnated? You have to tell us if so…

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          Nah nothing like that. I used to be an awful person, I’m still just trying to be better.

          Although even at my worst I don’t think I would ever assault a child.

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      Well, first step is to make sure you aren’t going after the wrong people. 🤷‍♂️

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        Also: this dude is defending his apartment complex? He doesn’t even own this shit, most likely isn’t responsible for cleaning it, either.

        So why the fuck does he think he needs to be involved and to solve this through physical violence?

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          So why the fuck does he think he needs to be involved and to solve this through physical violence?

          Significant money placed on stupidity combined with a corporal punishment upbringing. What are the odds he’s also a Republican?

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      Serious answer: Be a man. Get over it. They’re kids. Not everything in life is fair or legal or just. You can’t control everything! Will some older teenagers hide behind the “I’m a minor, you can’t touch me!” while taunting and provoking you? Maybe. But, again, you aren’t their parent and the law will be on their side in any kind of altercation. Don’t worry, they’ll be overworked, underpaid, and depressed just like us soon!

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      Personally, I would try to get a clear photo of their face and then I would use social media to hopefully find their parents. They would have to be egging my house a few times a week though tbh, it’s a lot more work then just power washing it away.

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      it’s not like physically attacking a child will neccessarily guarantee an end to your problems anyway. Like with everything: it kinda just depends

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      Just clean it off. Kids are kids. If they’re doing it to your house on a frequent basis, there’s a reason for it. If it’s just once, it’s harmless fun

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      If you can’t outsmart a kid, you’ve got problems

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      This is actually a great question.

      But I don’t have the answer as police in my area would try and fix it.

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    And he’s not in jail? What more do you need to consider this man a danger to society?

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      She egged a house, she didn’t assualt someone. Fuck let her go, she is a kid and they do this shit. Grab a hose and wash the shit off.

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        grabbing a kids arm and waiting for the police or the parent is not that big a deal. tackling or being on top of them is. someone would have easily grabbed me for doing something like this as a kid or now in my area.