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    For those not appearing to get it, Trump allowed his sycophants to berate Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit in his White House meeting. Folks are treating Trump’s attire faux pas accordingly.

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    This was not an accident. First, it gets him to stand out from the crowd, draw all the attention to himself, and make it all about him which is what he lives and breathes for. Second, it gets the media to focus on something other than him eliminating due process, having judges arrested, using the DOJ to attack perceived enemies, deporting US citizens, and completely ignoring court rulings while those who have the power to stop it sit back and either do nothing or actively support it.

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    Honestly, now that we’re literally sending people to concentration camps, I have zero fucks to give about this superficial bullshit. No one gives a shit about what Hitler wore at the '36 Olympics, and no one’s gonna care what this asshole wore to a funeral.

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      It’s purely to be on the attack. Republicans showed for the last fifteen years if you’re performatively aggressive against the opposition eventually you get what you want.

      You don’t have to hate Trump or his suit color. Just love democracy and socialism and the working class. If this gets some apolitical conservative people to not vote for the Republicans then awesome.

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        The thing was that they resorted to the tan suit and terrorist first bump bullshit because Obama gave them so little to work with. For Trump you didn’t need to waste everyone’s time when his administration is ignoring court orders, arresting judges, declaring warrants and due process unnecessary, and tanking the economy.

        The tan suit stuff may have helped energize the base by preaching to the choir, but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media. When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, no need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.

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          but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media.

          I found it ridiculous too and it made me very skeptical of conservative media. I wasn’t the target audience. And with this blue suit attack line, I’m not the target audience either. It’s not for me or most of the people on social media delivering the sound bite. Like the tan suit controversy before it, it’s for conservatives.

          When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, boo need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.

          Conservatives either don’t believe, don’t care, or like that terrible stuff. We should boo that too, and continue to cover it, but we need to take the short amount of time it takes to knock the fluff out of the park. Our issue hasn’t been making fun of Trump for the wrong things, it’s not making fun of him enough. We haven’t been aggressive enough and Democratic politicians definitely haven’t been aggressive enough.

          I bought into Jon Stewart’s line that we need to focus on more substantive criticisms. Then in it turned out Trump voters like him because of the economy and the price of eggs? No, we needed to make MAGA’s ‘strongman’ look weak in the eyes of his supporters. Septimaeus covered this concept comprehensively so review that comment if you haven’t already.

          If all we talk about is fluff that would be a mistake, but refusing to engage with the fluff at all is also a mistake.

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            I corrected my typo, it was supposed to be no need.

            Talking about him falling asleep can undermine his undeserved tough guy image, I don’t think mocking his blue suit does anything but make it look like we are grasping at straws.

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              We still need to do the more substantive arguments for our positions, such as progressive and socialist positions, and refutations of neoliberal and fascist positions. But once the sound-bite reaches saturation in the population it will, in theory anyway, have done the desired damage.

              To some conservative people, a man not wearing a black suit to a funeral is effectively taboo. It effectively is to some of the users, without respect to their political positions, in this comment section apparently. It’s something some of his voters will have to rationalize to defend him. If we do enough of these trivial ad hominem attacks eventually some people will be less motivated to vote Republican.

              People who do not care about suit color will considered this topic to be a trivial non-issue and move on with their day. They aren’t the target audience. And the people who do care will be really bothered by it. What bothers a person is different for everyone. People probably should be bothered by the more serious life or death stuff, but not everyone is. To some people climate change is a trivial non-issue and by talking about that we’re grasping at straws according to them.

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          I agree, and once would have dismissed the sociopolitical pragmatism described by the commenter above as “lowering our discourse to their level” or something of the sort.

          I eventually realized that this instinctive criticism was valid only if they were still growing as people, and capable of more than what they are now. The assumption is that setting higher expectations might convince them to “elevate their discourse” if only to save face.

          But what I’ve come to realize is that this was far too much to expect. By all the evidence available to date, these folks never advanced far beyond the emotional maturity of the average middle schooler. At this level of maturity, superficial and public humiliation is quite literally the most serious attack, as it bloodies waters presumed to be infested with sharks.

          Yes it’s pathetic, and yes “stooping to their level” feels gross, but Republican voters are only enthused by policies which benefit them directly or hurt others they feel deserve it. Perceived power matters a lot to them, and seems to be attached to explicit expressions of it that are similarly pathetic— as in, truck nuts, “I am very smart,” “I have a great brain and concepts of a plan,” etc.

          So public humiliation of trump for an otherwise petty and irrelevant issue (especially by someone he can’t touch without losing a chunk of his base) absolutely succeeds in making him look weak, and making Trump look weak is directly correlated with his voters’ loss of motivation to vote (see RWA personality type/disorder; it’s fascinating).

          Enough of these successful offensives will cause his most die-hard voters to lose faith in him (caveat: to seek out somebody stronger) so to de-motivate a current right-wing conservative voter, likely we must accept that petty “mean girl” tactics are the only language they understand, due to their arrested emotional development, and robbing them of their “strongman” is both easy and effective. Ridicule the emperor with no clothes and his voters, who are themselves unclothed, might go home and rethink their fashion statement.

          TLDR: It sucks but crass pragmatism may be warranted in this case. The first language of Trump voters is small-mindedness, and it’s often the only one they understand, so we might consider rolling our sleeves up and speaking it if only so future generations don’t have to.

          Edit: corrected swype errors.

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    Just one in my lifetime I wanna see the rapists, the convicted felons, the wannabe gangsters elected to office, the people linked to Jeffrey Epstein, the presidents who put personal interest before country, the tactless lying connen grifters and the orange buffoons leave this plane before the good men with some semblance of balance, tolerance, moderation and compassion.

    Just once in my lifetime.

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        I suggest that you stop using his name. He gives out pet names constantly to de-humanize his enemies. Pick one of these or use a different one every day.

        A loaded adult diaper of belligerence

        Adjudicated Serial Rapist (VOTED MOST ACCURATE)

        Agent Orange

        Agolf Twitler

        All in all, it’s just a little prick with no Wall

        He lives in: Alternative fact land

        Ancient Orange

        Assholini

        Ayatollah Complainy (Thanks Stephen Colbert)

        Baron Von Shitzinpantz

        Benedict Donald

        Blab the Inhaler

        Borderline Junius

        Borderwall Personality Disorder

        Captain Bone Spurs

        Captain Capslock

        Chainsaw-In-Chief

        Chaos in Chief

        Cheat Miser “Whatever I touch, starts to melt in my clutch.”

        Cheddar Cheezus

        Cheeto Brain

        Cheeto Christ, Stupid Czar

        Chettolini

        Combover Caligula

        Commander in Thief

        Commander in Tweet

        Condom Escapee

        Conman-der in chief

        Conquistaorange

        Coppertone Caligulia

        Coup Klux Tan

        Current presidential placeholder

        Darth Cheetoh

        Dementia Don

        Diaper Don

        Dick a l’Orange

        Diet Dr. Putin

        Dingus Con

        Dipshit Donnie

        Disaster in Chief

        Dodgin Donny

        Dollar Tree Dictator

        Don Feloni

        Don Poorleone, The Fraudfather

        Don the con

        Donald “putinsremoved” Trump

        Donnie Dumpo

        Donnie Thin Skin

        Donorrhea of the mouth. A Republican ailment.

        Dorito Mussolini

        Droolius Geezer

        Dumbo Donnie

        E Pluribus Dumbdumb

        Everlasting Jobstopper

        F Elon

        Faux prez

        Felon (DO NOT USE by order of inmate #P01135809)

        Facsimile Fuehrer

        Fanta Fascist

        Fanta Fuhrer

        Fart face von shit stick

        Felon 47

        Felonious Dump

        Fibbernazi  Revenger

        First lady Donald J. Musk

        Fraudfather

        GropenFührer

        Gulf Of Idiot. Middle name of Of

        Hair Farce One

        Half off Adolf

        His Royal Heelspur

        Individual One

        Inmate #P01135809

        Klanned Karenhood

        Lil’ Donny Two-Scoops

        Lord Feltersnatch

        Lord Repugnant of the Fourth Reich

        MAGA Teresa

        Maga-Lardo

        Manchild McTinyhands

        Manchurian Cantaloupe

        Mango Moron

        Mango Mussilini

        Mango Unchained

        Marmalade Maggot

        Marmalade Messiah

        Melon Felon

        Moscow Marionette

        Mrs Donald Putin

        MyPillow guy low-budget stunt double

        Nectarine Nazi

        Ol’ Smeller

        Old Wack Donald

        Orange Caligula

        Orange Foolius

        Orange Hitler

        Orange Judas

        Orange Tufted Shit Gibbon

        Orange Von Fat Fuck

        Orangesama bin G’olfin

        Orangutan

        Papaya Pinochet

        Payless Putin

        Pervert Hoover

        Pumpkin pol pot

        Pumpkin Pustule

        Pumpkin Spice Palpatine

        Putin’s Puppet

        Scammer in Chief

        Sleepy Donzales

        Super Callous Fragile Ego Extra Douchey Rapist

        Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist NAZI POTUS

        Tang the Conqueror

        Tangerine Palpatine "Let the hate flow through you. Feel the power of the covfefe side of the farce!’

        Tangerine Palpatine

        Tangerine Skidmark

        Tangerine Turd

        Tangerine Tyrant

        The Count of Mostly Crisco

        The Fanta Menace

        The Melon Felon

        The Quicker, Thicker F***er Upper

        The Slob Father

        The Village People’s Idiot

        Theme song: I Shot the Tariff

        Theme song: Tsar Spangled Banner

        Toxic Revenger

        Trumpaloompa

        Trumplethinskin

        Trumpty Dumpty

        Velveeta Voldemort

        X‘s Diaper

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          Nah thanks, his pet names are lame and forgettable. I keep using Trump exactly to dehumanize the name and make the name synonymous with his failures. Using these makes only takes away from that.

          History must remember what a failure this man is, so I’d rather use that name.

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            Excellent additions, I’ll add these, THANKS.

            I have to be careful not to insult too many people. This is already 10 up and 6 down. I’m almost in the middle of the road.