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- comics@lemmy.ml
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/28232681
Dont love the AI slop but appreciate the message
Dont love the AI
Are the taking Lemmy as revenue away from artists? Are they selling this commercially? Should they have commissioned a perfessional artist for your free meme?
Something about trying to appeal to human emotions with robot creations doesn’t sit right sith me.
So I guess you’re opposed to CGI in movies as well, or any comic that isn’t hand drawn and scanned?
Shit, that’s using a scanner… Hand drawn and a picture taken… Nope. That doesn’t work either. Printed in a… Fuck.
I guess you only approve of comics hand drawn by people that show you the original in person?
Why are you making such a strawman? Using an AI model to completely generate a picture is obviously not the same as using the tools you mention here.
In regards to “using a robot creation to appeal to human emotions” it is. I highly doubt the prompt was “created a comic that appeals to human emotions”. Someone had a specific idea and told the AI specifically what to make, the AI did not “decide” what would appeal to human emotions.
The AI hate train in action
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No, I just think it looks like shit
There’s an XKCD for that
can we please keep this AI shit out of here
Don’t get upset about AI. It was just following orders.
Seriously, I’m here to look at artists’ work, not computer generated slop
AI generated?
Yep, all the faces are disjointed from each other and seem generated separately. No soul at all
I think this community needs to have a conversation about whether we keep allowing AI comics.
It’s a no for me but I’m willing to vote.
There’s a vote under every post. Feel free.
Nice “gotcha”. But you know what I meant. We should discuss adding it as a sub rule - so we can report it for AI as they come.
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As is your right. If the community agrees to make a change, and you don’t like that change, you’re welcome to leave the community. Congrats on having free will!
When I’ve got 10,000 AI generated candidates on my ballot and its my job to pick out the half dozen real submissions, it feels like there’s a structural problem with the election’s process.
So you want to make someone else do it for you?
I don’t see a shortage of eager self-motivated artists. What I see is a social media space crowding them out with slop.
I would vote “no” as well, but I imagine they’re here to stay.
Did AI make this? It looks like it
Why is that man pulling her braid lol
I don’t want to assume their gender but that’s a man, baby!
Must’ve trained the AI on Wheel of Time.
…he’s just following orders
Nah dw the mom just has epidermodysplasia verruciformis
Why are there way more AI comic posts than usual lately?
Because sometimes people have an idea for a relevant comic, but not the artistic ability to draw it. So, they use AI tools to create the artwork.
Damn, you’re right, artistic talent is totally required to make webcomics.
I apologise for my glib response. I don’t doubt your sincerity. Things may change in the future. It’s just that in this particular historical moment AI has as much to do with democratising talent as nfts did with supporting solo artists/creators.
I am sorry. This combination is no longer allowed. Internet gatekeepers have spoken.
edit: obligatory /s?
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Regardless of my personal dislike towards AI, which I didn’t even express, I was just making an observation.
I think they were sarcastically replying to you. Pretending to be someone who actually has that opinion.
My comment is a little higher in the chain, they didn’t reply to me
Ah. Then I can understand your reply a little more. Still, you can consider their reply directed at everybody else in the thread bemoaning AI.
AI shitposting is effortless.
the funny thing is that that’s the icon for adobe illustrator.
inkscape ftw
Lol I had no idea. Works both ways tbh
This is why I custom order all my memes direct from people on Fiverr
AI-generated. Thanks for training my neural network (brain) to identify more AI-generated images (slop).
What tipped ya off the weird faces or the woman with her child clone?
All the comics from the new GPT have the same style, you don’t even need to pixel peep. They just all have the same art style.
Yeah, and they often have the issue of people looking in kind of random directions that don’t make sense.
Extra finger as well.Damn this one was good though, would’ve missed it if I hadn’t checked the comments and taken a closer look.Edit: I can’t count apparently. If anything there are missing fingers.
Where is the extra finger? I swear I can’t find it. A disappearing pinky
I feel like most artists would make the daughter similar to their mother. I don’t see how that’s weird.
The characters all have different and “accurate” reactions
Sherif is stern.
SS is annoyed.
ICE shows some compassion
Native American is noble
Jew is startled
“Illegal Aliens” are scared
There are a lot of details in everything.
If it wasn’t for the comments I wouldn’t think it is AI, but I do feel like people bandwagon on it. Top comment says AI, and everyone is going to say AI.
Indian guy on the left has one less finger on his left hand. Nazi in the middle lacks a finger, indan man’s right eye is a typical AI distortion, so are the eyes on the children in the last picture. The ear details on all characters are inconsistent and are either drawing in different styles or turns into AI-nonsense as in the case of the kids’ ears. There are tangent with the Jewish face and the buttons on the nazi’s uniform as well as tangents between the woman’s hair and the ICE-man’s uniform that are typical for AI-nonsense. The SS logo on the nazi’s uniform is AI-nonsense, as well as the emblem’s on his cap. It is supposed to be an eagle and a skull on his cap, but the skull is nonsense and the “eagle” has no head. An artist wouldn’t make that mistake.
Many of the mistakes in this comic are mistakes that you can only make if you have no understanding of what you are drawing. AI doesn’t understand that human hands have 5 fingers nor that eyes tend to have eyeballs on them. An artist doesn’t tend to change ear details on characters unless it is a deliberate design choice, which it clearly isn’t here as all characters are designed within the same style.
I know this because I am an artist. When I look at drawings other people made I can see the thought and design that went into them because as artists we have to understand what we see to draw it correctly. Someone at this level of skill would not make these careless and stupid mistakes.
Aww shit, I just can’t count fingers. Maybe I’m the real AI. Yeah I’m still not sure that this is AI. I hate that we have to have this discussion.
The font (a little bit weird-looking) and the texturing of the image (way too overdone). From that, I noticed the comic lacked a signature or watermark from a comic author, then I noticed that the characters are all just gazing into the distance.
First hint was the weird fist in the first panel. Why would you clench your hand in front of someone’s arm if you’re trying to restrain them? It almost looks like he’s holding the guy by the hair.
Just following orders…
I approve the message! The images are just reinforcement so I don’t really care if it’s AI. Not everyone can draw.
The good news for (most of) the pieces of shit from the 1830s and 1940s is that there wasn’t a tool for us to use to name and shame.
However for this generation of fascist scum there is now the internet. And it should be used to track down and tackle the ICE scumbags. Fuck them.Edit: Reee, AI, blah blah because, yes, that’s the most horrible thing about this post. Definitely not the kidnapping and fascism. Fuck sake.
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The sentiment of the post is right, but AI is shit and we can adress smaller shit while also focussing on big shit :)
There, said it to your internet face
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It’s an inherent problem of the human condition, for some reason our own moral compass becomes dysfunctional once the authority and therefore responsibility is with someone else. It’s the reason the Stanford Prison Experiment went so wrong once the professor took influence; we’re not inherently evil, we (as a species) are just drawn to the current ruleset as dictated by our social group or idol of choice, especially if we get convinced it’s somehow necessary.
Obviously not trying to abolish any guilt here, people are still responsible for what they’re doing.
In the end we need way higher quality of education globally, better social security, rethink society (don’t have children be on their own and make parents constantly burned out, god damn it) as well as political systems so they are designed to prevent any definition of an in- and out-group. Protections for who, what, where and how people are are great, and stuff like Germany’s Article 1 is a good start, but it needs to go way further.
We need to design an environment that allows us humans to become more than we currently are if we ever want to get out of this cycle.
Not to burst your bubble but
Stanford Prison Experiment
was a total hoax:
It confirms claims Zimbardo pushed participants towards the results he wanted, something he has disputed.
That’s actually what I referred to, although I indeed didn’t know know about the other statements by participants. Only knew about someone in Stanford digging through the files and realizing Zimbardo fucked everything up by pushing towards a certain outcome. Mmh…
I still stand with my statements about what we should do better though.
I’m with you on that. Most people all to thankfully give up their responsibility and do what they are told. The less they see the outcome of their actions the better (drone Pilots for example).
Anyway, i think the stanford prision experiment is a bad example for that though, because it also incorprates peer pressure and concludes that nobody will think twice doing harm to others, as long as they are told to do so by authority. Humanity isn’t that bad I hope
What’s more annoying? That people have the ability to generate content with AI, or that everyone on lemmy constantly complains about it?
You’re banging your heads against walls over and over. Stop. Shut up.
This didn’t ring my AI bells at all. Oof…
Same here. What are the signs here?
I left another comment down there somewhere, but here’s something
The most obvious tell to me is that it looks more like a filter than a real drawing. So far all AI drawings look like this. There’s also details that I was able to pick apart:
- Why did the artist choose to draw everyone gazing into nowhere in particular, and not for example at each other?
- People have detailed faces, but their expressions seem unrelated to the message. Same applies to positions.
- The concentration camp victim is especially scared of something offscreen while the SS officer holding his shoulders, as if he was protecting this small man…?
- The artist chose to very clearly display the sheriff holding his fist in front of the native american, but for no apparent reason. Same for ICE.
- Why did the artist choose to use three victims in the last panel, making the composition weird and unbalanced.
Maybe it’s because of different amounts of exposure to AI stuff or something, but the only feeling I can get from this style and the empty stares is that something’s just off, and I hate looking at this so much.
Look at the Nazi insignia. It’s all AI garbled noise.
That boy… oh boy… his eyes.
It was the eyes that gave it away for me. They look, just, wrong.
Lads here me out on this it might sound a bit harsh but I’m starting to think them fasists are cunts