Seriously blaming the tankies again? How bourgeoisie of you lol
If you want to blame something, blame the media. Both news and social media have completely sold out for profit. You CANNOT have a democracy if vast parts of your population is being misinformed. And this started with talk radio in rural areas many decades ago. And the democrats did nothing - because they are not left. Thanks for all the empty “Hope and Change” Obama!
So yeah, blame socialists all you want but their critique was valid.
You need a revolution or reformation. A massive change in who owns the means of communication to have a free press again that is not purely profit driven. Can you even imagine that? Is that something you would say? No. You’d rather blame and denigrate socialists and call them tankies. Look at the mass protests, it seems the libs aren’t even calling for Trump to step down and demand new election lol. People would rather bow to unjust laws and simplistic principles than believe in democracy. Of course they are all being stage managed.
But this is just pathetic.
Yes it was the “slight corruption” that “tankies” are criticizing Dems for. Give me a break.
Anyone that uses the term “Tankie” unironically to refer to people to the left of them and the Democratic party are not a part of the left.
It’s always helpful to identify the liberals that are getting “scratched” though.
Republicans are always evil. They don’t do anything good. Ever. They’re a known quantity. That’s what we expect of them.
We expect the Dems to be better. And they get the smoke when they fail at that. Cutting Corp taxes. Border crackdowns. Genocide. Those are things that should exclusively be the pervue of Republicans. If dems run to the right they will always lose because the right was so triggered by Obama that policy doesn’t matter to them whatsoever. It’s purely teamsport for them. You can’t appeal to them in any way. They see a (D) and vote against that person. Dems would never lose another election if they went only as far left as Bernie Sanders. We would have a perpetually booming economy and a high standard of living. But even that is far too far for the DNC Services Corp. So we get a gameshow host and a car salesman destroying everything.
Honestly the fact that the entire country keeps getting mad at Democrats while taking an “Aw shucks, who hasn’t tried to do a coup de tat or shifted blame for your actions onto a minority group. All is forgiven!” Attitude with Republicans, is…
Just fucking bizarre.
6 months in and Liberals are still trying to blame their election loss on the left.
Ja, this meme is tripe. Tankies are the Lemmy bogeyman, used the same as ‘woke’ by the right.
Ninety million people didn’t vote. Three million voted third party.
What was the difference Trump won by again?
The arrogance of assuming that anyone who didn’t vote or who voted third party, just automatically owe your party their vote.
The entrenched two-party system has done more to cripple democracy in America than any other factor, and yet it’s so pervasive that y’all whip each other into line trying to shame anyone who tries to break free of it.
I guess we’re all better off now having learned a valuable lesson, aren’t we? So… How exactly would you like your ‘thank you’ presented?
Arrogance indeed.
The only way the dems could have won in 2024 is if they did what is popular with their base. This applies to literally every election. You should be furious that they lost to Donald fucking Trump twice because they thought they could win while enacting policies they knew would decrease turnout.
They have their own polling, they know there’s not a bunch of voters who just hate tiktok and will vote for tax credits to buy healthcare for first-generation college grads who run a small business in an under-served community for 3 years, but won’t vote for free healthcare.
No messaging could have made genocide in gaza popular, it’s not the people telling the democrats to stop giving Israel fucking bombs who made facilitating genocide unpopular. The only people who could have changed whether Palestine hurt the dems or helped them were the dems. They decided unlimited support for a genocidal settler colonial state was more important than winning.
Well it’s a good thing we dodged that bullet, isn’t it?
And yeah, I’m furious that ninety three million people were told what was going to happen and chose to not vote anyway.
Unpopular policy decreases turnout. That’s just how democracy works. The narrative of blaming the voters just serves to distract from the only people who could have changed the outcome of the last election and will be the only ones who can change the outcome of future lessons.
If Trump runs for a third term, and the democrats run on building the wall and defunding the government, the same fucking thing will happen.
Arrogance is believing that for some reason despite everything that happened in the last year of her term in office that magically this person who had no concrete message or goals except the continuation of the genocide of people living in tents would be the savior somehow.
She’s just another corporate politician who takes orders from donors and she’s a COP at that - so keep constructing this fantastical image in your head that you think your choice was the answer. She wasn’t and will never be. That’s why we are stuck with Trump.
DUH.
Again, you keep talking about how bad Kamala is, and side-step the disaster that we currently live under.
But whatever helps you cope, right?
Why are liberals so incredibly dense?
Her platform and being the worst candidate ever is the reason we got Trump, but for some reason you ignore this and blame voters.
The democrats played everyone and where are these staunch defenders of democracy now?
Patting themselves on the back for giving meaningless speeches while Trump disassembles democracy.
And these are the people you thought would save you?
I see on another one of your posts that you are angry 90 million people didn’t vote. What makes you think they would have voted for the fraud Kamala even though they could have and didn’t? What did she offer them? The answer is … NOTHING.
And now that Trump is torching the constitution where is Coconut Kamala?
Why giving speeches at Australian real estate events. Nothing says “I’m defending America” like giving Australian real estate speeches.
Your finger pointing is very devisive and exactly what I would expect out of a pampered liberal. Open your eyes and see the truth.
So, this conversation got me thinking. I’ve been wanting to get in better shape lately, but I’m wondering if doing things like… exercising, is really the right way to go about it.
It seems the best advice from all the people that clearly know how everything works, is to do absolutely nothing at all. Because historically, we all know that great change comes from inaction, right? So why not try it? Let’s see if sitting on my ass and watching other people exercise will help me become more fit.
Wish me luck!
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What are you talking about? It only mentions democrats, republicans, and tankies.
Tankie is what centrist liberals call everyone to the left of them
I’ve never been called a tankie, and neither have any of my friends or girlfriends. And we’re all communists.
Maybe you’re being called a tankie because you’re a radical centrist.
I was once called a tankie just for critiquing the fact that Kamala didn’t clearify her positions on her campaign website, even though I voted for her anyway the fact that I didn’t show unquestioning loyalty to the party makes me a tankie… Wait a minute… Demanding unquestioning loyalty to the party… Where have I heard that before?
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Yeah but caring about that apparently makes me a “single issue voter” and a “tankie”, liberals are absolute jokes
Don’t you, like, run a hate community targeted at her?
No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.
electoralism.
Refusing to vote is how you end up with the worst arrogant politicians who dont care at all about their constituents.
Wow, I wish I didn’t care who the president was. I wanna stop fearing for my girlfriends’ lives.
.world definitely has a problem distinguishing between Tankies and leftists. I’ve literally had a guy argue with me that tankie and Bernie Bro were interchangeable because, “definitions change.”
Well I love Bernie. When he told me he wasn’t running in 2024, and he wanted me to support Kamala, I listened. And I’ve never been called a tankie. Maybe it comes down to individual differences.
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I also voted for Kamala and I also haven’t been called a tankie (at least yet). But I’ve seen multiple liberals on .world call leftists tankies, often without understanding the meaning. At first, I found it very strange, since I’d only ever seen that term used in leftist circles. It made more sense when I realized they picked it up from .ml, which, to be fair, had a lot of fucking tankies.
Ohhh, so it’s the tankies who are responsible for this. That makes sense.
That reminds me of how Israel tells everyone that killing people is part of the Jewish identity, and then complains when people believe them
You’re a tankie, you voted for someone who sent tanks to a genocidal regime, that makes you a tankie.
Now you can’t say you’ve never been called a tankie.
I’ve only ever been called a tankie by a tankie who was making some kind of point
That’s because nobody is called “tankie” in real life. No one has called me a “tankie” either. The term’s contemporary usage is a creature of social media. It’s a dumb, cringey online meme.
Hmmmmmmmmmm… nah. It’s from the 1950s. They didn’t have 9gag back then
Again:
The term’s contemporary usage
But also: JFK Files Reveal CIA Role in the 1956 Hungarian Uprising | The tankies were right
The Hungarian Freedom Fighters were [Central Intelligence] Agency sponsored.
So you’re a tankie in real life?
I don’t think you know what communism actually is.
You too, hun.
I’ve never been called a tankie
we’re all communists.
I’ve got bad news for you…
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Isnt radical centrist an oxymoron?
oxymoronYeah, supporting workers and dictators at the same time is pretty oxymoronic. But it’s perfectly balanced, as all things should be
No, that’s what I call people who claim to be left but then make excuses for Russia, China.
What do you call people who claim to be to the left but make excuses for Canada and the genocidal Democratic Party?
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If centrists wanted criticism of republicans, they could have done that more.
But then they might not have got the endorsement of dick cheney. establishment democrats punched left and embraced the right.
Current US: a neoliberal capitalist nightmare being ruined by CEOs
Your most intelligent American: This is definitely the socialists’ fault
The difference is we don’t expect anything good from Republicans. We expect libs to at least try but they’d rather punch left than effectively govern.
I’m sure appealing to the non-existant moderate republicans will work again.
goes both ways i suppose.
What do you mean by that? What goes both ways? If you’re suggesting that Republicans will attack other Republicans, that’s not what we saw in the presidential race. Maybe if we rewind to 1992, why not.
the bit about punching left i suppose.
Lefties are well known for hating on libs, for any number of reasons.
I’m punching to the right, it’s not my fault the Dems are always standing there 🤷
Look at the division in this thread.
A U.S. President is literally trying to recreate the conditions of 1930s Germany by tanking the economy and isolating us from our international partners.
Stop looking for someone to blame and put out the current dumpster fire before it catches the grease.
Get out and protest. Get your boots on the ground.
gENocide iS bEing SligHTLy coRruPt
yeah the like 10 tankies in the US really threw that election…? The takes from people on lemmy are so fucking strange.
Committing genocide and Imperialist plunder on the entire planet is being “slightly corrupt?” Moreover, where are the Communists that don’t also hate the Republicans?
Really…? I feel like all the tankie (tanky?) discourse I’ve personally seen has only had vile hatred to say about trump. (namely hexbear)
