“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”

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    I’m an Episcopal priest, and I’m trying to imagine how I’d respond to this. The only time I’ve ever had to ask someone to leave was when a, say, mentally unbalanced man came into the church and screamed profanity at me in the middle of the service and told me that I needed the permission of the Korean consulate to preach (this was a white guy in a Navy sailor’s cap, in Hawai’i where I live—not sure what his deal with Korea was). He did this twice over a couple years and I have a person who works with unhoused veterans in my parish who’s told me that she’d been instructed not to interact with the guy because he was deemed too dangerous. So, asking him to leave was a safety issue. But no one tackled him.

    I’d like to think that I’d let this guy have his say. If he’s not cussing anyone out or getting violent, I’d probably let him talk and then invite him to hang out and talk some after the service. I sure as shit wouldn’t demand him to “respect my authoritah” or see him tackled to the ground. That is something I can’t wrap my head around.

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        Been a priest almost 14 years. As for the change question, are you asking me about my own personal experience of doing the work of a priest, or how has the church at large changed during my time?

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    More people need to be doing this at churches. Its the easiest way to fix the free speech narratives:

    “why are churches trying to ban the words of jesus?” “These are public spaces that get tax breaks for being public spaces, why is there censorship in these places”

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      Yes, but also, the craziest people will say either A. That the pastor should be the one preaching (like the people in this case did) or B. That that’s really just politics (even if you’re literally quoting there Bible), and politics should stay out of the church

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        Sure the media will say things. But like half of these maga chuds go to church. Its about making them question the media by affecting their churches. When the media is lying about things they can see, it makes them doubt.

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    And when the police arrived they started questioning him about whether he agreed with Trump on deportations and Gaza. The police questioning people on their political views seems to be becoming standard in the USA.

    “Why are they saying you pushed a priest?”

    “They were trying to pull me away from the pulpit. I grabbed the pulpit and just held on. I didn’t push anyone. They had four guys grabbing me and dragging me off there.”

    “What made you want to preach today?” “I’m worried about human beings, our brothers and sisters who live within our midst and are being targeted by the government.”

    “What do you consider to be targeted by the government? What class of people are you …”

    “Undocumented immigrants.”

    “So you don’t agree with deportations and things like that?”

    “Uh-huh.”

    “Did you say anything like that?”

    “I didn’t even get there.”

    Looking at a copy of Gillcrist’s prepared remarks, the officer said, “So I see you mention Gaza and Ukraine in here. What’s your message with that?”

    “They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”

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      “They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”

      Oh yeah, this guy is a real hatemonger.

      Remember, with Trump in power cops don’t need to pretend anymore.

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      Jesus was a Capricorn
      He ate organic food
      He believed in love and peace
      And never wore no shoes

      Long hair, beard and sandals
      And a funky bunch of friends
      Reckon we’d just nail him up
      If he came down again

      ‘Cause everybody’s gotta have somebody to look down on
      Who they can feel better than at any time they please
      Someone doin’ somethin’ dirty decent folks can frown on
      If you can’t find nobody else, then help yourself to me

      Jesus Was A Capricorn - Kris Kristofferson

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    Yeah, no way We’re letting a long haired, bearded freak into our church…

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    Seems like some apologies and confession seems to be in order here and not by Jimbo. Wow!