This is a prime example of why patriarchy is hurting men too, because what this guy is saying boils down to:
- We can make them work at any hour of the day because who cares if these guys have any life outside work?
- We don’t have to do any work management, we just call those guys
- We can send them wherever, whenever
- We can create a toxic work environment and it’s okay to treat guys like shit
- And those guys don’t even complain because they need this job so bad
Isn’t it great?
The statement about “workplace laws” is so telling: Yeah, who cares about treating men with respect and dignity!?
It’s not just about discriminating against women, it’s also about mistreating men. That’s what patriarchy is at its core: Pit men and women against each other and then reap the benefits. It’s a “divide and conquer strategy”.Exactly my impression. And my response? Fuck that shit.
Also practices like that reinforce the gendered division of labour. As men get jobs, women are usually left to pick up the slack of care responsibilities. This leaves them financially dependent on those men. So both men and women suffer, but the system leaves women with less agency than men.
(Also nonbinary, queer, and third gender people are treated even worse)
So I heard a bunch of sexist shit (about men and women simultaneously which is very impressive) that aligns perfectly with my biases, but I wasn’t aware it’s ok to say out loud? Chat is this real?
Sorry, but I’m not available 24/7. Far from it. In fact, leave me alone.
Men are available 24/7
I‘d like you to meet Europeans some time.
“You mean men are easier to exploit.”
This. IF these generalizations are actually true it still doesn’t mean what he thinks it means. I also find the bit about “being strict” particularly gross. If it’s valid workspace criticism, then there’s no laws protecting women from it. So he clearly means something more like “I want to yell and insult and be a little dictator but women might report a hostile work environment.”
I’m a man and none of that applies to me differently than it would my wife. In fact, she did contract work at crazy hours one year and we made it work.
Ugh, LinkedIn bros are the worst.
What would you have to say to him that he would find sexist?
The fact that the standard reasoning that leads to workplace discrimination against women caught him off guard says a lot. Ok his friend didn’t call women too hysteric to work but still the other stuff should sound familiar too.
GOOD point. They often have the vapors.
It can be so much worse if they have Wandering Womb
In the middle of the flanks of women lies the womb, a female viscus, closely resembling an animal; for it is moved of itself hither and thither in the flanks, also upwards in a direct line to below the cartilage of the thorax, and also obliquely to the right or to the left, either to the liver or the spleen, and it likewise is subject to prolapsus downwards, and in a word, it is altogether erratic
“I do declare!”
Hashtag leadership! Hashtag equality!
#workplacediversity was my favorite.
I’m available between 9am and 5pm, Monday to Friday, and not a second more, unless you’re paying me double time. If you call me outside of work hours, I’ll ignore you.
In general I agree with this sentiment, but let’s be honest and remember that a lot of jobs are of the type “you are responsible for X, regardless of what time of day it is”. In a reasonable place, that of course comes with the benefit that you can take time off whenever you want as long as X is handled, but I actually prefer the freedom/responsibility trade off of needing to handle shit in the weekends when required, but also being able to not come in to work when I know stuff is running as it should.
Would love to hear your thoughts!
Pretty sure you wouldn’t love the avalanche of slurs mixed with the citations from socio-economic studies and the ethical arguments. It’s quite ugly.
Let’s play translate the job title.
“I bought a cheap DSLR and have a spare room I’ve put on Air BnB but nobody has stayed in it yet”
Yeah, men can be pseudo-slaves legally. That’s why employers love them.
It works for the American prison industry!