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    12 days ago

    That’s cool and all, but where do I put all this shit. I live in a 3 room 60m² apartment with my family of four because of the insane rent. I literally do not have space to hord anything.

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      That sucks, I’ve been there. I recommend dry, cheap, bulk rice and beans. They are the best in terms of calories per dollar that you can store for a long time. Powdered peanut butter is good too. We used to cook two cups of rice and one cup of beans together in a rice cooker with three cups of water and then season it with whatever cheap dollar store spices we had. Very filling meal. The peanut butter is dessert.

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        That’s really good advice actually, thanks. And under the bed like the other guy said isn’t impossible either.

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          I would suggest storing some extra water too—It’s likely more important than food—and the good thing is it’s often cheap!

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      Survival situation, you can easily get away with 1800 kcal/day. 4 people, 3 days = 21600 kcal.

      Rice, mostly starch, around 3600 kcal / kg. So 6 kg for three days. That’s 12 western or 0.6 Asian packs. Its like half a cement bag in volume.

      Or you can get bulk ramen. A box of ramen has around the same size as that rice above, its 30x360 = 10800 kcal. So needs a bit more space but you can eat it raw!

      Most bang for the weight/volume is fat though! Fat stores 7 kcal/g, protein and carbs just 4. And the tastiest way is nuts! So peanut butter for example. Or Snickers. You can also put peanut butter on raw ramen. Get a bag of chips too, you can use them as fire starters!

      Don’t forget other stuff though:

      • Crank operated radio
      • Combat first aid kit, ideally with Israeli bandages and a tourniquet
      • Power bank with foldable solar panel (+ all the cables you need)
      • Water filter
      • Magnesia fire starter
      • Lighters (plural!)
      • Multitool
      • Compass
      • Cash
      • Paper map of the surroundings
      • Head lamp
      • Bunch of paracord
      • Couple needles
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      Could you find room for a 20L water can or two? Many are “stackable”. That will be more important than a big food cache. The main point isn’t “doomsday prep” its for anyone who is able to hold out for a few days. That gives emergency services the space to rescue the truly desperate first.

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      You’re not trying hard enough. My wife’s family in Hong Kong have a flat half that size with 6 people and all their stuff.

      Grandma doesn’t throw anything away and she is amazing at storage management.

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        That is not a reasonable living condition. I can’t pretend that it’s normal to live like that. A person deserves way more than 15m^2 of space.

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      Or, we set fire to everything because they tried to cut benefits, so going shopping will be hard.

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        11 days ago

        They don’t really care about that unless it’s organized. A few fires here and there is handled by insurance and poses no threat to capital. All the more reason to get organized!

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    The Commission said in its new EU Preparedness Union Strategy that the bloc was preparing for risks […] including the possibility of armed aggression against EU countries.

    EU tells the public to hold a 2nd job, private health insurance, and forget about summer holidays.

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    72 hours isn’t a lot. Many countries strongly suggest having emergency supplies for at least 10 to 14 days.

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    In fairness, the only thing many people will lack is water. It’s not an exclusive stash, but in addition to what’s in your cupboards.

    You can get 10L or 25L quite cheaply. 1 should do per person, maybe with an extra for cooking. Or just grab some big bottles of water.

    A hand cranked flashlight, candles and lighter are all a must anyhow, for a power cut. It might also be worth having a cheap camping stove tucked away.

    Food wise. It’s just a big bag of pasta or rice, along with some cans/jars to make it pleasant to eat. Throw in some hiking snack bars and you’re sorted.