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    I’ll at least give people with Teslas the benefit of doubt, but if I see you with a Cybertruck I’m going to judge you.

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      I’ve started seeing the Juniper model Ys in my town. There are people who bought the Cybertruck before he was a nazi, but everyone who owns a Juniper Y was well aware he was a nazi when they bought the car.

      It’s unfortunate. It’s actually a seemingly very cool car.

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        Oh man, that’s insane and super frustrating. I would totally look the other way while someone destroys one of those.

  • Cybertruck was first sold in November 2023. Musk was visibly vile long before, but particularly after the first half of 2023, and even more visibly in October when he officially purchased twitter and began onboarding nazis

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    I really don’t understand why there hasn’t been a hostile takeover to boot him out of the company yet. Capitalism is all about money, money, money and “shareholder value”, yet they keep letting him tank that company into the ground.

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      He stacked the board with people who are loyal to him. That’s how he took control of Tesla to begin with. He didn’t found the company, he stole it from the original founders.

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      The lion’s share of the money is held by Conservative billionaires. They like his propaganda machine, because it allows them to gradually rob the US in broad daylight while Elon jingles keys to distract everyone who should care.

      What few ultra-wealthy people who aren’t Conservative either can’t or won’t try to take it over because it would be a huge expense, they also get benefit from the ultracapitalism it promotes, and/or the current SEC and FTC would never allow it (they work for Trump, not the people).

      Like Tesla, social pressure on the users is about the only thing that will exert any meaningful influence upon Xitter. The billionaires enjoy Elon being in charge, otherwise.

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      the same reason they couldn’t kick out Walt Disney or Henry Ford. during fascist times, there’s no reason for companies to hide their politics

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    There was never a time when the truck was not a stainless steel turd. I have never seen a review (by a technical person, not an influencer wank) that said “buy this truck, it’s pretty good.”

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    Let’s not mince words. Enough of the soft language.

    If you bought a cybertruck, or any Tesla after Musk went full mask off, you are a Nazi collaborator. That is not hyperbole. That is not exaggeration. You are literally a Nazi collaborator. And you have the exact same moral culpability as an Nazi collaborator during the reign of the historical German Nazi Party. You voluntarily signed up to give tens of thousands of dollars to an overt white supremacist hellbent on the extermination of entire social groups. You gave tens of thousands of dollars to a Nazi. You are a Nazi collaborator.

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      If you use Google, in any way, even by using an Android phone, you agree with the genocide of palestinians. That is not hyperbole. That is not exaggeration.

      🤦

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          Sure. A country based on racism, but it’s because of me that it turned out to be racist, even though I’m not a citizen of the USA and I knew it was a fucked up country based on its various issues like killing civilians, spying on everyone for “anti-terrorism” and “fight against CSAM”

          Maybe it’s actually because there are many people like this, with many being still in power with no consequences because free speech apparently means freedom of spreading hate and misinformation

          Maybe it’s because your country only lets people chose between 2 candidates and has a deeply flawed electoral system that promotes voting for whoever was elected by your favorite side (~left / right) without really thinking. It really is an all or nothing election.

          But yea it’s definitely me and people that are like me.

          Continue calling everyone a nazi and racist for no reason. You’re really helping the cause and convincing people.

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        The Trump/Musk government meets all the textbook definitions of fascism. They’re literally sending people, without due process, to overseas gulags. They’re revoking the passports of groups who were also historically targeted by the Nazis. They’re flagrantly violating court orders. They’re using the exact same fear and intimidation tactics employes by the Nazis. The Nazis took over because people like you had a normalcy bias and assumed that the skinheads would never take over the place.

        If you want to argue that they’re technically just fascist, and not Nazis, fair enough. But if you need to make that distinction, I think the point is already lost.

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      Thank you so much, I’m sick of people defending this shit, they can fuck right off. Dude has been a full blown Nazi for a hot minute too

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        It reminds me of centrist Dem politicians. The same group that ran a campaign openly saying that Trump would institute a fascist coup now insist on pretending everything is normal. The greatest weapon of a latter-day fascist is the normalcy bias. Trump won the election because many people assumed those calling Trump a fascist were just exercising ordinary political hyperbole. Now we have an Apartheid billionaire reorganizing the government and a Secretary of Defense that has giant white power tattoo on his chest. The president is openly performing shakedown operations against legal firms and media outlets. And the regime is rounding people up without due process and shipping them off to an overseas gulag. The administration is doing this citing a law that was last used to inter Japanese Americans during WW2.

        Hell, my passport was retroactively declared fraudulent because I happen to be a member of one of the groups that the fascists have defined as their internal enemies. My nation’s government has decided that I do not deserve the right to leave the country. When it comes time to renew my passport, I’ll be given a document completely useless for actual travel abroad.

        And yet, we’re supposed to play nice and pretend that this isn’t fascism. It meets every definition of the word, but people are so blinded by normalcy bias that they can’t see what’s right in front of their face. They won’t admit it’s fascism until they’re force to tour a literal death camp and walk past piles of charred corpses. And even then, they would have questions of whether this really was fascism.

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    Elon has always been crazy, saying he went crazy after you bought a Tesla makes you dumb and ignorant for not seeing it sooner.

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      it’s also such a prime example of liberal posturing. do something that makes you look good over something that fundamentally changes anything

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    Just yesterday, on a return trip from weekend camping, my wife and I saw like 4 Cybersucks. Also on that same trip, we saw a either a Model 3 or S with a bumper sticker that read “Tesla? Yes. Elon? No.” Imagine tanking your company’s image so hard that owners have to put fucking disclaimers on their cars. Ford Edsel and Delorean owners had more pride in their purchase.

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      Not all owners are putting disclaimers - I’m in Vegas this week and the first thing I saw when I left my hotel this morning was a cybertruck with an iron cross on the side. So some of them are into that swastikar lifestyle!

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    On the other hand, driving around with an advertisement saying, “Elon is crazy and this was a bad investment” isn’t the worst thing in the world.

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    One could argue that anyone who could design the Cybertruck as it is must be crazy.

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      that would be a shit argument just like tying being a fascist with being mentally ill

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    Pre-orders started in like 2019. It is possible you ordered one before it became super obvious Musk was nazi trash, I think? Maybe you could have canceled it later, I don’t know. It’s possible some people got stuck in the deal.

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    you could pre order it like, a year or two before it actually released? Does the pre-order timing line up with this?

    OFC you could still probably cancel that pre order, but idk what the timing looks like on that one.

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      anyone who is not banking on it to become a wild collectors item in 50 years or is a complete braindead idiot with too much money cancelled their preorder.

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      He was a nazi long before these were out for pre order. Remember when he called the thai divers pedos? That was the beginning