Originally Posted By u/Particular_Log_3594 At 2025-03-23 11:53:01 AM | Source


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    This is why democrats lost. They don’t care what their base wants.

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          Maybe, but the fear prevents them from expressing as much; they regularly change their positions and messaging to match whatever the rabid hogs that make up the core of their base are baying for.

          Meanwhile democrats see it as a virtue to stand up to their base. West Wing has done irreparable damage to their brains.

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        2 months ago

        that because republicans will stop voting for them in a hearbeat; while democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.

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          Dems literally just lost because their base didn’t show up what are you talking about?

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            they lost the presidential election, we still have mostly the same dems as before

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              we still have mostly the same dems as before

              What does that have to do with Dems always voting blue when they clearly didn’t? To remind you what your point was since you seem to have forgotten:

              democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.

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                  Yes and not voting blue is the antithesis of:

                  vot[ing] blue no matter who

                  But also, Republicans vote Red or don’t vote. It’s in the name. You keep making meaningless points.

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        Exactly, this is why Chuck and Jefferies are making these plays while AOC is literally campaigning with an Independent candidate.

        This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

        This is why no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

        This is why Korne, these ridiculous illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

        Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this. Corpo Dems can save face by saying that was Trump!

        But Schumer is an idiot and he basically admitted that what Netanyahu is doing is what the Corpo Dems wanted. Between his goofy ass book tour and his “My job is to make sure the DNC stays pro-Isreal” it’s all laid out in the open.

        He’s hoping the strangle hold idea that “we can’t make or split the party” will keep the party together and behind his leadership. But if AOC said tomorrow that she was starting a new party because that DNC leadership will no longer oppose Trump and laid out proofs. I’d jump ship immediately. I’m hoping she and other get enough momentum that the party can fracture. Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

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          This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

          Before Oct 7th, thinking was Trump would be best opponent to prop up. We’d have a better democracy if he was in military prison/trials he couldn’t indefinitely delay, or he had fallen out of a window.

          no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

          Big evidence of DNC being pro Trump, or not enough zionist funding against election rigging.

          illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

          Not sure I see the link to Israel there. CIA propaganda defunding would be neutral. Foreign policy abuses are likely designed to control genocide tolerance. All colonies have distanced further from Russia and China. Peace against Russia, has explicitly cited “meeting point victories” for controlling Iran.

          Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

          US elections require massive money. Actual “only way out” is to declare Zionism a hate group, and invalidate citizenship/office of any politician supporting zionism, and zero out wealth of any donors/media supporting them. It is only path to neutralize money that is used to brainwash us.

          • Rymrgand's Daughter @lemmy.world
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            The link to the destruction of our government is hoping that Americans stop paying attention to Israel at all. “Who cares what’s happening over there look here!” only works if there’s no Internet and no way to nationally distribute information that isn’t Corpo controlled.

            It did require insane money but I think we are able to get around that because there are too many communication channels. Their only hope is to tire us out when it comes to pushing our messages and shadow banning. I definitely think that labeling Zionists as a hate group and a straight up terrorist organization is definitely the way forward. I think the same about Maga tbfh.

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          Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this.

          We should have ruined her day by electing her president. We let her lose, and now she’s laughing at us. We played right into her trap.

          • Rymrgand's Daughter @lemmy.world
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            We literally tried, and if the election tampering handed her the loss we did. That’s why she didn’t fight it at all. She’d have been fucked having to hold back Netanyahu for four more years

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          i think the Ds were banking on letting GOP be the lightning rod for the cause/damage they do, and come in and save the day. its backfiring.

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            The amount of people that are going to starve and die as a result of this will be unforgettable. If this was the Ds plan which it seems to have been it just further proves that these ancient fucks don’t understand social media or technology in general.

            20 years ago if police raided my home and sent me to another country illegally it would take weeks before an article was created telling my story if that. And even longer before randoms found out about it. Nowadays I can send texts and social media posts while they’re busting down my door with video clips. Multiply that by millions.

            We aren’t going to forget the seniors that Musk has erroneously labeled as dead even though they’re alive completely screwing them because we can see it happening in real time.

            We’re not going to forget the hundreds of people human trafficked to El Salvador because we have a list of names before the planes even landed.

            We’re not going to forget the Palestinian genocide and human trafficking. We’re certainly not going to forget that Israeli soldiers have been told to sexually assault literally everyone they capture.

            We’re not going to forget Cucklefuck Schumer and the DNC whining about being useless when Mitch has done more with less.

            If senior Dems think they’re going to look like heroes they’re so out of touch with reality that they’d think a guillotine is a crown.

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        You can’t even become a candidate if you haven’t bowed down on that AIPAC stage pledging allegiance and unconditional support.

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          Biden/Harris wasn’t willing to shut down free speech at universities, with deportations, and funding threats. Schumer probably wanted Kent State.

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            Biden/Harris wasn’t willing to shut down free speech at universities

            The selective memory again.
            He had plenty of protesters arrested facing serious exaggerated charges.
            Let protest encampments be dismantled and students violently beaten by his heavily armed police forces and even fanatic zionists that could do what they wanted without any objection from the complicit regime.
            All of these dems are 100% genocide collaborators and participants, if not traitors by harming their own citizens for the benefit of an even more horrible regime.

            And he was certainly going to deport Palestinians.
            He simply postponed it under prsessure, since they would’ve been dropped in the middle of a genocide.

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              Let protest encampments be dismantled and students violently beaten by his heavily armed police forces and even fanatic zionists that could do what they wanted without any objection from the complicit regime.

              ADL and zionist hedge fund managers complained that it wasn’t enough, and I don’t think it was federal law enforcement doing the beatings. Proud Boys showed up in anti-protests protected by cops.

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                ADL and zionist hedge fund managers complained that it wasn’t enough
                Nothing is enough for these freaks.

                And US regime cops certainly beat protesters.
                I forgot to mention the Proud Boys indeed, but certainly zionists, some indentified as part of the IDF.

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      Apparently ‘embrace patriotism’ an ‘removing too left wing elements’ is what they base want.
      That’s their plan.

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    His job is to keep the left pro-genocide?

    Lord, I hate establishment Dems.

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        I’m not sure I follow. Did you mean to reply to a different comment?

        Just in case: “I hate establishment Dems.” =/= “I like Republicans.” I have enough disdain in my heart for both. The post is about an establishment Dem, so that’s what my comment was about too. I was directly replying to Chuck’s remarks that “(his) job is to keep the left pro-Israel.”

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        the same megadonors, dems just have more obvious right supporters, the DInos. im betting at least the DNC was afraid that trumps gop was getting massively more donations than The DNC, so they probably made deals and a “attempt to win the eleciton”

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    Anyone got a non-paywalled source for this? Chucky’s not usually this mask-off

    Thanks for the ladder @Gem

    President Trump accused him of being “a Palestinian” who was “not Jewish anymore.” A few days later, Schumer decided to postpone his book tour after joining Republicans to support a stopgap spending bill to avoid a government shutdown

    And they say women are too emotional to be in office 🙄

    A Jew stands up for his people regardless of the cost, and regardless of the politics of it. On this, Schumer has acquitted himself bravely.

    So move to Israel if you want to stand up for them. They’ll give you land.

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    Must be tricky getting lefties to support a fascist religious ethno-state responsible for killing 50000 children in the past year alone.

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        Can start by polluting the narrative by trying to draw similarities between Israel’s plight… and Ukraines.

        Its a very straight line. The US supports Israel. The US supports Ukraine. Ergo, Israel = Ukraine. Also, Palestinian = Russian.

        Unless the President changes, at which point Israel = Russia and Palestine = Ukraine. Oh, no wait. Pete Hegseth is getting dragged on TV and my donors are mad at me for suggesting we pull money out of the arms export industry. Maybe Ukraine is good aktuly? Maybe we just stop talking about Ukraine entirely? Is there any way we can pivot to blaming China and kicking off a shooting war in the Pacific?

        Poor Zelensky doesn’t understand that Israel doesn’t give a mortal fuck about them and their struggle.

        Zelenskyy doesn’t get that Slav ranks below cockroach and above Arab in the western white nationalist lexicon. He’s expendable on a good day.

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    If he was serious about that aim, wouldn’t he be trying to stop the Palestinian genocide? That’s a big factor in why so many people no longer support Israel. Bombing hospitals and daycares is never going to be popular with “your” base, Chuck.

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      The whole “point” of the Zionist project is to consolidate and expand the Israeli state. The plan has always been to erase Palestine. Stopping the genocide is, in essence, anti-Isarel.

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      If he was serious about that aim, wouldn’t he be trying to stop the Palestinian genocide?

      Might as well ask why the German-American Bund wasn’t trying to stop the Nazi genocide.

      My guy hates Arabs. He hates Muslims. He hates them so much that he wants them wiped off he face of the earth.

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    Has he tried convincing Netentahu to not do a genocide? That’d be a lot easier than convincing a bunch of folks that they should support a genocide

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        the Oct 7 attacks were brutal, and demanded a response

        The response it demanded was to for Israel to end it’s brutal oppression of Palestinians: end the bombings, end the blockade, end the land theft end the murders, end the kidnapping and release the thousands of Palestinian detainees.

        many would suggest it was a caluclated move by Russia,

        Many insane BlueAnon conspiracy theorists who have been trained to reflexively blame all the world’s ills on Russia.

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    My sole job as an elected representative is socially engineering acceptance for a foreign population.

    I don’t think this is the flex he thinks it is.

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      I think it is, it’s a flex that his fellow dem senators will not call for his resignation no matter how openly vile he is about it, and they’re keeping pretty quiet right now letting the house say it instead.

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        like fetterman, they know they are safe until '28, by then they already did enough damage and made bank from it.

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      chuck schumer: im trying to be a comedian, like my extended family member AMy, try

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    Listen we, the Democrats, are pro insider trading and baby killing. If you have a problem with blowing up a hospital full of poor people, then this just isn’t the party for you. Fuck you.

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    Keeping the world pro Isreal should really be Benjamin Netanyahu’s job. Obviously he’s not doing that job though.

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    For establishment dems sticking with israel was always more important to them than beating trump, and chucky still cares more about israel than helping americans oppose trump’s policies. The dem establishment is such a thorough failure that I hope it goes extinct

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      thats probably why they strung along trumps case, they never were going to convict him, it made good propaganda for keeping the funding for israel(trump was thier ticket to get continually funded by billionares of both parties, and they more than likely made deals behind the scenes on what they will vote on), and the donations both parties. and people were pointing out how the courts move extremely slowly for trump and extremely fast against luigi.

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    This is why Dems struggle, despite all this bullshit because the leadership is these ancient stupid fucks.

    I hate chuck

    I hate Netanyahu

    I hate the genocide to human trafficking pipeline they have going on.

    like what the fuck is that

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      Dems recently had a perfect test of whether or not their better nature could overcome their fecklessness. They failed.