No. Please enjoy your retirement.
The Bidens need to stay the fuck out. For good. You killed your own political dynasty, dipshit. Stay down.
Edit: Jesus fuck, what a complete tool:
Former President Joe Biden has told some Democratic leaders he’ll raise funds, campaign and do anything else necessary for Democrats to recover lost ground
Really? You’ll do anything to recover the ground YOU lost? Except keep your promise to not campaign for another term? Or listen to constituents instead of consultants? Or do anything meaningful to preemptively stop fascism? Or bow out of the presidential campaign when it becomes painfully obvious that you have neither the temperament or mental acuity for the situation at hand? Or relinquish control of a presidential campaign that isn’t yours anymore? Or-
You get the idea.
Stay down, Biden. Your “help” looks a whole fucking lot like leading lambs to the slaughter. Nobody wants you or your help.
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They’ll probably try Hillary again next
Pelosi for pres! Cause democrats! Ahhh we are so fucked…
Biden had his chance and squandered it by failing to build any trust with the voting public. We need a completely new generation of leadership and that includes house and senate leadership.
No. If you want to be useful, convince some other dinosaur Dems to retire.
He had to be convinced when he stared at polls saying Trump would win 400 EC votes, he isn’t going to do anything.
“One term.”
It physically hurts me to think about the number of times here, on this platform, people tried to gaslight us on this.
First it never happened.
Then, when we showed them the interview where he said it, we were told it was just “misconstruing” what Biden said.
Then, it wasn’t a campaign promise.
Then, when in 2024 when Biden confirmed it was a campaign promise, it didn’t matter, because “beating Trump” was too important; but if “beating Trump” was so important, then why were they insisting on sticking with Biden?
I just. Sometimes I can’t even.
That didn’t happen. And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. And if it was, that’s not a big deal. And if it is, that’s not my fault. And if it was, I didn’t mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right.
It sucks that the Democrats are the Republican party of 2012.
And Democrats will soon be the Republican Party of 2016.
Already are in a lot of aspects.
At last someone has answered the call for new, young leaders with fresh ideas.
The only way he could help is if he invented a time machine and went back in time to convince himself to announce he isn’t going to pursue a second term in 2022. Or immediately stop supplying Israel with bombs after it became clear they weren’t going to stop. Or better yet, go back to 2020 and don’t screw Bernie out of winning the nomination. Selfish prick.
ITT thread - lots of folks downvoting the folks rightly condemning Biden, but strangely no one showing up to debate them. 🤔
Just to be pedantic on the internet, it’s ITT: In This Thread. ITT thread is like saying ATM machine.
You are absolutely correct! Doh!
Because they know their one tactic is “But Trump is worse” when a moldy ham sandwich is better than Trump in office. Congrats, the bar is low enough to let an old racist bastard in office!
Downvotes are what we get for asking for proof they are trying to do something good that will actually help, or ask for sources to claims.
I hate when someone gets downvoted for asking for a citation. Republican thoughtcrime bullshit.
Yeah, of course. The way forward is relying on failed gerontocrats.
No. Thanks for your service blah blah blah, but his generation of limp dick, self serving moldy dinner rolls are what got us here in the first place. Take Chuck and Hakeem with you
Fuck off, Joe. You’ve done enough damage. Go away.
Is Biden compromised or something? He doesn’t seem to realize that his name is fucking poison to dems and reps alike. Why is he so intent on fucking us over more? You destroyed us. Fuck off.
The headline is disingenuously framed. He isn’t saying he’s gearing up for a presidential bid. He’s saying he’ll throw his weight in to build up support for the party. Idk that that’ll do any good, but it isn’t a bad thing for him to do necessarily.
He’s an established guy who a lot of moderates and libs have historically liked. Plus, I guarantee he knows a lot of big money donors who he might be able to convince to put their money toward a more progressive candidate - that could be useful if he was willing to support a more progressive direction & agenda. Now will he do that or just insist on more of the same bullshit that ran the party into the ground…? Seems like he might not exactly have his finger on the dying pulse of american democracy, so to speak
Yeah I’m mostly in agreement with everyone that Biden ain’t it, but damn it’s nice to see a past president willing to help.
Historically is doing a lot of work there. Remember the 2020 primary? Because like half the early primary was moderates looking for a better candidate than the default pick. His events were weakly attended and his fundraising was mediocre.
But more importantly, not all help is beneficial. Once you’ve got enough stink on you, being a public face of the party isn’t necessarily helping it. I still maintain Nancy Pelosi, with her stock trading, billionaire heiress weddings, kente cloth kneeling, and left punching was a drag on the party. She reminded a lot of people about their negative opinions of the party every time she was in the headlines.
And I think Biden’s the same. He’s weak, old, delusional, and status quo, and above all he’s heavily responsible for our loss. The more the party props up old leaders just because they were leaders, the less it speaks to being able to make the changes needed to win.
A lot of voters are pretty uninformed. And I think old folks who remember Biden in his younger days often like him more. But like I said, I don’t think he’ll do a whole lot of good.
He’s likely not even aware that he was president.
Holy shit! He’s still alive?
Feinstein kept going years after her death.
