• nocklobster@lemmy.world
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    Didn’t trump say he would concider the vandalism towards teslas a form of terrorism? And hasn’t the usa used terrorism as a way to forcefully enter countries in order to "fight terrorism "? What if these acts have been performed by agents from the US to give the government an excuse to invade?..I’m also very stoned right now.

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    It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.

    This strikes me as an odd qualifier.

    Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?

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      Maybe your question should have been ‘have there been ANY’ valdalism incidents… Before now

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      Not larger no, that’s what they are saying… I get you though but no… Had there been similar or close to this? Dunno … This language is just coming from the US admin to make it seem like an attack the us. Rather than on Elon musk himself and his values and actions, which it is.

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    When Trump said he’d prosecute tesla vandals “with the full force of the law” it really highlights the unequal enforcement in our system. Its like saying “I’m going to turn on law enforcement right now just for this issue”. He clearly does not believe in laws or law enforcement, or else he’d see how absurd a statement it was.

    This and their dismantling of the EPA, IRS, FBI, and justice system shows that republicans are soft on crime, soft on the legal system in general, and disrespectful of law enforcement, except insomuch as they can be used as personal storm troopers for issues they care about-- usually to promote racism and class stomping of the poors.

    Republicans are soft on America, but rock hard for Russia. I hope republican voters are proud.

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      How does the saying go? The core principle of conservatism is there are people the law binds but does not protect, and people the law protects but does not bind?

      Or, another similar insight: liberals judge actions as good or bad and judge people by their actions. Conservatives judge people as good or bad and judge actions by the person performing them.

      What Trump realized is he doesn’t have to even pretend to enforce the laws objectively. Conservative Americans want selective enforcement. They want the government to go after liberals and leftists and minorities with the full voice of the law. They want law enforcement to ignore conservative crimes and hunt down liberal crimes, because conservatives are good people so their mistakes can be forgiven, but liberals are bad people so they must be guilty of something.

      And that’s where Biden fucked up. He had the FBI go after Trump relentlessly for four years in the belief that, if he could find enough bad actions Trump did, he could discourage conservatives from supporting him in 2024. What he didn’t realize is, Trump’s supporters would never condemn any crimes Trump committed, because they believe Trump is a good person and therefore what he does isn’t a crime.

      All Biden did was give Trump an excuse to send his FBI after his political enemies too. And Trump and his supporters are happy to use that power far more widely than Biden did.

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      I hope republican voters are proud.

      You damn right they’re proud! As long as the powerful white man is hurting the right people to keep them in their place they’ll vote republican forever.

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    I read something earlier in the week about a tesla dealership being vandalised here in N Ireland. Might be a worldwide thing.

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      We need anonymous to dismantle Twitter and plummet it all so it can be amongst all the other apps that went to the grave.

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    Remember a guy telling it is more efficient to paint over sold Tesla to discourage buyers. But we have to admit news of burning Tesla is pretty discouraging too.

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    In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”

    The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.

    And if it bleeds we can kill it.

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        Useful idiots don’t get a pass for what they’ve done.

        The man was a piece of shit before the first car rolled off. If you didn’t know it’s because you didn’t care.

        Quite frankly we need to start shaming people bad for the products they buy because money is support under capitalism. If you buy something you are supporting that company and all the evil they do.

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    I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.

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      Also, car dealerships are the backbone of local conservative party funding. They are the financial backbone of the fascist movement

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      I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.

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        Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.

        When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.

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    Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.

    Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.

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      I think him being the shareholder is the problem. I don’t care if we was to step down as CEO, I want to see him hurt financially. Especially since he bought twitter off his Tesla stocks. Hit his stock hard enough and when it comes time to pay for twitter, he’ll be fucked.

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        You’re right, but I suspect most people wouldn’t see it that way with regards to Tesla. Depending on the terms of his current compensation package, I suspect it would be better for him financially if he just stepped down and held onto the stock.

        But he’s such a narcissist that he’d never do that.

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      Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk.

      They could have done this a LONG time ago… now the damage is done. Nobody would care he is no longer CEO (although that may help Tesla develop better cars), people are not going to want to drive a Swasticar anyway nor give money to a literal Nazi

      Short of selling all his stock and completely disappearing from the public eye, Musk completely destroyed Tesla. There are simply better options that do not include helping/associating with a Nazi

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      If they fire him as the CEO. Now that would be interesting to see the turning events of that whole company. It would definitely salvage the massive amount of loss within their company. Which is insane because they would just have to fire Elon as the CEO. But I don’t know if they can salvage the company because the reputation of it all. The damage is massive.

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        The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder

      If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.

      They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

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        His family members and deep associates are on the board, they voted to pay him $55 billion. They’re all corrupt.

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        1. Large shareholders can’t just sell. There are rules to prevent stock manipulation
        2. He’d be the first victim of tanking the stock. Not in his best interest
        3. He can’t sell any shares used for collateral
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        The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.

        Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.

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        It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.

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          Good, let the USA burn their money and tank their economy bailing out a company nobody would buy a car from

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions

      On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.

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      Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.

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      I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.

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        Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.

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    At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.

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        I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.

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        Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.

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        I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.

        Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.

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          He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.

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            He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.

            https://knowledgefight.com/

            One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.

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              Such a great podcast! Absolute Talmudic in its thoroughness.

              ‘Know Rogan’ is a pretty good new addition if you haven’t checked it out yet.

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                I’ll check it out!

                I count myself among the lucky who has never heard that overgrown thumb talk for longer than a sound bite.