So we’re just going to have to sit here and let Israel murder these kids. Yeah religion is trash
First a statement, so i dont get put into pro or anti anyone. I utterly hate the hamas leader who decided to sacrifice palestinians for their cause by igniting this latest bloodbath just as much a I hate the israely leaders who cheefully accepted the invitation to violently take the land. I dont give a rat’s ass about religion and strongly advocate against religion being a incentive to kill or be killed. Let people live for fuck’s sake. End of statement. (maybe I need a short motto for this)
Now out of pure curiosity Israel tell gazaan to leave but offer no destinations, surrounding countries will not accept gazan partly out of not wishing to be destabilized and partly not wanting to help israel in the cleansing. Was westbank ever considered as a destination ? if so how was it received? It seem to me to be the least horrific solution.
Israel is in the process of taking more of the West Bank too, Israel isn’t going to let Palestinians stay there long term.
Hamas did not start this. Israel did.
I did not say Hamas started, just that they lit the match in this latest episode of lets play chicken with innocent lives.
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The IAF blew up 400 men, women and children and today Netanyahu said, “this is only the beginning.”
You can get deported from the US now for pointing that out.
Booooo
What a shitbag.
This is insane, this message looks like something out of a Command and Conquer game.
Israel killing civilians at random probably isn’t going to help bring the average Palestinian to their side against Hamas. If they were being nice to the civilians they might actually be willing to help you.
This might come as a surprise but Israel wants to kill all Palestinians and steal their land. Not “beat Hamas”.
This is exactly the sentiment. In no reality would they stop once these objectives are met.
If only Hitler would’ve killed less civilians maybe the invaded countries would’ve been willing to help him with those awful resistance fighters.
He was given a trolley problem. Well, it was more of a train problem. Well, I don’t remember where the bottle neck was. But the guy couldn’t get the Jews fast enough to satisfy his evil ambition.
The jews were but a side quest
The jews were very much a main quest.
Alongside the slavs, romani, gays, etc
you are completely wrong.
Their one target and enemy was communists.
Well they would have probably assassinated fewer SS offices. Also some people did collaborate with them. Also, Hitler would probably not be viewed as negatively as he is if they didn’t do all those things.
a substantial part of the people collaborated with them.
Minimised, whitewashed, swept under the tableThey did. Others were pretty hostile towards people for doing so. I expect people would have been even more willing to collaborate and less hostile to those that did if they, well, weren’t nazis.
Maybe Hamas aren’t the bad guys here? Just think about that for a second.
There can be more than one bad guy.
Yes, and after watching the last 18 months unfold they are certainly on the same side against Hamas.
If Israel and Russia can get away with it, then too the USA, and this is the ultimate goal: taking back the world to the days of “territorial conquests”.
Terrorists were the first step…sounds like the US was interfering before
Hamas was always a “tame” terrorist force.
Or put another way, the only reason why Hamas existed in the first place is because Israel picked them specifically to be the face of Palestinian resistance in Gaza, and constantly paid them millions to keep them in power, while at the same time, brutally crushed any other groups who might have pushed for Palestinian rights.
There were a bunch of news articles shortly after Oct 7th talking about how Netanyahu’s “cash to Hamas” bribery for peace deal had blown up in his face, and no. It did not.
This has been the plan for decades. All Israel needed was an excuse and a somewhat friendly president who could ignore the US’ previous policy of paying lip service to a two-state solution.
Most of Palestinians are under the age of 18. Basically telling a bunch of kids he’s going to kill them.
This is a fact I try to bring up often… It’s a truly disturbing piece of information
Also, they’re struggling to survive without enough supplies, they’re being cut off from the Internet and power in part so they can’t get their message to the world, and they couldn’t kick out Hamas if they wanted to - they have no organization or individual power to actually do that
So it’s worth considering…who is this message for?
who is this message for?
Everyone watching from the outside. It’s an attempt to convince us that Israel is being fair and giving non-conbatants a fair way out, and that anyone caught in the crossfire from this point forward chose to stay.
Yup.
don’t forget about peace day 1 you guys.
Is that what he said? How many lies are we up to now?
Take his age. Multiply it by 365. That’s how many days he’s been lying.
Sound formula
Do you think there’s a 13 year old girl in Gaza who is writing a diary that will be widely read by children across the world 40-50 years from now?
Well, with the way things are going, it won’t be read in the U.S.A. It’ll be banned.
By then they won’t have to ban books. Nobody here will be able to read
Those that can will be considered witches and drowned or burned at the stake.
It’s 2025, the teenagers mostly document their lives on social media. Tent life guy from Gaza got killed but there are others.
When this empire falls and the genocide history is able to be taught then yes I think some of these video records will be studied by children around the world.
Maybe, but it will probably be destroyed by carpet bombing before anyone sees it.
It’s not carpet bombing it Ai kill list. It indiscriminately just attacks targets, they’ve been training it the whole time. Palantir is the company
It’s probably not them. I didn’t see anything about Gaza genocide in the impact studies section.
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Maybe, but the IDF will definitely burn anything they find, don’t want more records of their crimes where they can avoid it
They dgaf. They want the world to see what they are getting away with.
Now imagine what we don’t see.
The Germans occupied the Netherlands during WW2 and most (non Jewish) people could still live relevantly normal lives. Israel on the other hand is destroying everybody and everything in Gaza. They don’t even have a chance to write a diary.
Around 250,000 Dutchmen died in WW2. A substantial part of that came from the hunger winter in 1944 when the German army took the Dutch harvest. Dutch cities were first bombed by the Germans and afterwards by the allies, and many were in complete ruins. I am saying this not to downplay what Israel does to Palestina, but the idea that most Dutch people lived relatively “normal” lives during WW2 is ridiculous.
I meant normal in wartime. It wasn’t just a slaughter like Israel is doing. People could still have jobs and do stuff.
Indeed. If with doing jobs you mean the forced labor camps that healthy men were forced into. I mean, you just don’t help the cause by downplaying the bad experiences of other countries.
Israel is doing terrible things, but it simply doesn’t compare to the atrocities of the Third Reich. Almost nothing does. It’s important we don’t downplay just how horrible the Nazi regime was.
As a new biography Dutch Girl: Audrey Hepburn and World War II, excerpted exclusively in this week’s PEOPLE, reveals, it was her experiences during Germany’s five-year occupation of Holland during World War II that truly shaped her.
While more has come out in recent years about her war experience, Robert Matzen’s book reveals harrowing new details about how a young Hepburn battled severe malnutrition, particularly during what was known as the “Hunger Winter” of 1944-45.
Leading up to that brutally cold winter, as Germany tightened its grip on Holland, Hepburn and her family were often forced to live in the cellar for days and weeks at a time due to bombing overhead. And food became more and more scarce.
Nope. I may wrong but that’s the premonition I get just because Islam has promoted global jihad which will piss off a lot more people than not in the coming decades. Furthermore it seems to me Muslims aren’t supportive of girl authors like the west is.
“the muslims” Okay now let’s see what it would looks like if I change this word by an other one starting with a J.
Wait…?! Why I’m getting Déjà vu…ಠ_ಠ
4 or 5 years probably
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If you don’t know the legal definition of genocide or have enough information to make those logical arguments because of all the conflicting opinions from the media which are just there to confuse you—doesn’t it just feel wrong?
Folks here already pointed out the pure logical explanation why this is genocide very skillfully. Thanks for those comments.
Logically and in my gut this is wrong.
Because it’s a genocide extension that’s about to happen.
His message is a clear declaration to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
“Feels” is when you suspicious about something but you cannot tell why. This is objectively wrong because its state a genocidal intent as described by Law.
Very good point! I think I was trying to be too mysterious to get people thinking because not a a lot people can view it logically like you do which I appreciate it. Well done.
very. yes
Israeli’s are blood thirsty monsters. Prove me wrong.
The entire country is sick. The ones in power need to be held accountable and the population as a whole needs a “Denazification”. Something that will require generations of reeducation to undue the fascist ethnostate that has indoctrinated children from birth.
Separating this Fascist state from Jewish identity is one of the most important things to do as well. One of the most antisemitic things being done today is when Israel commits genocide and pretends it is doing it for Jews. It is disgusting.
Separating this Fascist state from Jewish identity is one of the most important things to do as well.
It’s extremely disturbing how common it is to weaponize allegations of “antisemitism” against criticisms of Zionism. I would say it’s antisemitic to assume that all Jewish people support the actions of the state of Israel, but strangely, the ADL doesn’t seem to agrees.
population as a whole needs a “Denazification”.
This doesn’t really sound like a good preamble. How many people from israel do you know? Have you been there? I hope you are not assuming they are all evil because they are ruled by psychopaths like any other country in the world
Do you think that Nazi Germany didn’t need Denazification?
The population of Israel is heavily in support of a return to Genocide in Gaza. The vast majority that aren’t are only against it because the hostages are still there.
Only 10% of Israelis believed the IDF was using “too much firepower” in December of 2023. The time in which Israel was bombing heavily and dropping white phosphorus on civilian areas.
There was a large protest in Israel not “against rape” but against the potential conviction of an IDF soldier who had raped and killed a Palestinian ON VIDEO. This led to a large protest that overan the detention center. The Israeli people literally protested to protect a rapist. Oh and the rapist is now a media personality in Israel.
This is not a population that is victim to it’s rulers. This is a population that largely supports the genocide of Palestinians.
What’s your definition of denazification to begin with?
Trump got elected democratically in usa but there’s millions of good americans out there
Denazification would range from punishment to individuals to reeducation programs and reintegration programs that can help the propaganda of genocide be overcome.
I would say the major difference between the genocidal actions of the American state and the Israeli state is that the citizens of the US are largely distanced from it. Both in terms of media but also more importantly geographically. Because of this the Israeli state not only has to manufacture consent for passive acceptance but actively manufacturer concent for the war crimes that every citizen can hear every night in Gaza.
This leads to a much more sick society in terms of dehumanizing Palestinians.
You seem to think I’m looking at this from some “good vs. bad” dynamic. I am not. I am only looking at the degree to which the state has manufactured concent in the population and that degree is to such an extreme in the Israeli society. It exists in America as well. But is primarily done through distractions, through their “toys”. Israel is different in this way. The population is not just (on average) distracted and xenophobic; they have reached a degree of dehumanizing Palestinians that will poison it’s population for generations.
Also, the comparison between voting for Trump and Israel is just not reasonable at all. Trump is not a genocide that you can hear happening as bombs are dropped every night. The material circumstances are just not comparable. I’m not saying Trump and his actions will not hurt people. Again, I’m talking about the degree to which concent needs to be manufactured. And most Americans won’t notice until someone in their family gets sent to a camp.
Decades of propaganda don’t go away in a day but the main goal should be to stop the psychopath behind it rather than attacking people. “denazification” much resemble authoritarian rulers rhetoric like the one used by putin with ukraine.
Keep in mind that israelis are also caught in a war, some of them are being forced to take side
Israel government and israel people are two different things. Just like in any other country the majority of people are good and get brainwashed by the government.
My personal experience with hundreds of Israelis is that they are very mean spirited people. Who treat anyone that isn’t their blood like shit. I worked for Jewish families on the east coast. They were tied into the Italian mob and trafficked drugs and women like it was nothing. I have a very unique experience within the criminal world of the Jewish Mob. Just by working at a hotel they ran shit out of. I never forgot those moments.
Not everyone is a mobster
I come from a mob territory. It was everywhere. They made a movie about my neighbors. The Buffalinos.
lemmy gets awful mad if you were to make the same point about Russians
Israel should be dismantled. They are a genocidal state and deserve no statehood.
No state “deserves” statehood. Statehood should be dismatled.
Fuck these fake borders dividing the people against each other.
Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was
You may ask yourself: Well, how did I get here?
The Balfour Declaration?
Even earlier, Sykes-Picot Agreement
but some are much much worse, and need to go much more desperately.
and every single citizen hunted like the inhuman monsters they are, with local bars giving free drinks to anyone who kills one. sure. but that’s how we know we aren’t in a just world. also all the other stuff, but, like, also that.
inhuman monsters
Fuck off with the dehumanizing rhetoric. You want an unending cycle of violence? This is how you perpetuate it. How do you think Israel came to be the way it is?
you’re buying into the bullshit narrative that it was founded by holocaust survivors. the opposite is much closer to true. stop buying zio lies. this was their goal from the beginning. for fucks sake, hertzel asked for help from fucking cecil rhodes, and during the lead up to the holocaust they tried to collaborate with hitler. they had an SS unit made up of volunteers from there, though they weren’t formally a state yet so it’s semi-deniable; some of them are proud of this history, and do not bother to deny it.
they are ridiculously unbelievably evil. they sing songs as children about exterminating the brutes and how their genes are superior. they’re monsters. maybe it’s not their fault, but their continued existence is a blight on the world.
Seek help immediately 😼
Get better at fed posting. It’s a little too obvious.
