Tax the rich!
…And we voted in the wealthiest man in history and a narcissistic luxury hotel magnate, who openly touted a regressive tax plan, to do it?
Makes perfect sense to some, I’m sure.
Somehow they’ve been convinced that the lower/middle class pays taxes so migrants and other minorities can live like the people they elected and Republicans are the ones fighting to protect them from Democrats who want all their money.
at the same time ignore that the billionaires and corporations dont pay taxes.
Damn this is so on point. This is exactly what’s happening. They love us fighting each other. God forbid we all come together and Luigi the rich.
Whom also has a factual history of being a con man, rapist, adulterer, and outright horrible person.
Literally which one
Love how he thinks the idea of taxing the rich is so ridiculous that merely repeating it back to the audience is a counter argument.
We really need to get the money out of politics.
To be fair, I understand his confusion.
You guys voted in a rapist felon along with his billionaire buddies, and now you want the opposite? Did you not understand your vote?
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It’s a hilarious failure to gaslight an entire town hall by himself.
“best I can do is a tax cut for those making over $250k”
“So your proposal to solve (the debt) is to tax the rich?”
“So your proposal to solve the empty gas tank is to put gas in the tank?”
“So your proposal to solve the dog getting out of the yard is to repair the fence?”
“So your proposal to solve the problem of not being able to see is to put on your glasses?”
Bro. It’s the most obvious solution. It also has the added benefit of being the only one that’s proven to work.
Being a representative whose mind doesn’t immediately jump to that solution is like being a truck driver and not immediately jumping to the solution of slamming on the brakes when you’re speeding toward a red light: it’s not a difference of opinion or policy, it’s dangerous negligence. Why are you holding meetings about this? If you’re dedicated to not slamming on the brakes, just try swerving into the daycare playground or whatever your twisted idea is. Don’t hold a town hall asking for a rubber stamp on plowing through the toddlers, and definitely don’t act surprised when your constituents react in horror and propose using the brakes instead.
The reason Luigi is so popular with Americans is because he is a microcosm example of the Sociopathic Oligarch’s worst nightmare - The average American rising up to literally KILL the wealthy. He is just one man with one victim, but what if he were multiplied by hundreds, or thousands, or millions?
The way black people felt about OJ, is now being felt by all working class Americans toward Luigi. So the wealthy, and the system, want to punish him harshly as an example to the rest of us, while we are plotting ways for him to escape punishment.
When the people are demanding a reasonable solution, and they are dismissed by the goverment in favor of punishing Americans in order to benefit the Sociopathic Oligarchs at our expense - AGAIN! - the Free Market will find an alternative, and nothing frightens them more than the threat of Luigi’s Solution catching fire, and becoming a trend.
Excellent point! I feel like Americans don’t like to understand that practically everyone in the U.S. is working class now. If you cannot quit your job tomorrow and live off of passive, savings, and residuals you are working class. The system is designed to facilitate this, with spartan social safety nets and lack of pensions. It’s shit-tier by developed nation standards.
What’s that other quote, ~“it only takes 3.5% of the population to generate massive change”? Obviously I am being flippant in this specific instance, but America is a failed democracy and empire in decline.
There is hope, but it requires taking back the power by direct action.
Mark Penn and Malcolm Gladwell (and many others, im sure) have both written about micro-trends, and how it takes such a small amount of the population - 2 or 3% - to reach a “Tipping Point,” and force major change.
Its the reason the Conservative Propaganda Machine works so hard to keep us so confused and at each other’s throats. They know that if even 3-5% of the population turns on them, they are royally fucked.
luigi was turning them against even the grifters. Then MSM and SOCIAL media quickly quashed all news of him. people in public also dont want to admit they support someone like luigi, or they get ostracized, or even get fired form thier jobs.
I like how luigi was being astroturfed by the grifters and MSMs until they realize they are making things worst by turning rabid right wingers agains tthem. all of the msms and grifters went quiet for a month. ALso it was drawing attention away from musk and TRUMP too.
Luigi isnt going anywhere. He still has a trial ahead, and it promises to be a full-fledged circus, potentially bigger than the OJ Trial which was a legal spectacle beyond description.
HitlerPig won’t be able to avoid Luigi’s spotlight, and he will be making daily special updates to air his ignorant opinions. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he shows up to watch the trial one day.
Nah I say we make some cuts to the capitalists
I’d rather see Elon spend life in Solitary Confinement. It would be the ultimate irony that the same government he did his best destroy takes away his freedom for life.
He should have it worse than the average prisoner though. Padded white cell with nothing in it, and maybe he has to wear a straight jacket on the weekends. He’ll also only eat Nutraloaf.
I think the ultimate punishment for all oligarchs and fascists is to live with nothing but their own thoughts as a stimulus. They took the gift of their mind for granted and poisoned it with greed, misinfo and hate. Let them live in it
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What are we North Korea now?
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Nah it aint worth the government resources
Napoleon kept getting out
Nah that would cost money and taxpayers have already paid too much to him to need to pay more for his “care”.
So if we give him an always-on TV with access to any given news-media, does he see the world and despair that he isn’t out there ruling over a happier people? Or does he read it that everyone out there are fools and only I can fix this?
Not that it matters outside his fluffy 12x12.
We need to organize politically or he will never see a cell and instead be our overlord.
For, you know, government efficiency and all.
Yes, efficiency >:3
DOGE. Department of Government Executions?
Remember, upvoting this meme back on Reddit might earn you a ban now!
and yet, people stay there.
I remember why I left :3
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What response was he expecting??
“TAX THE RICH!!!”
“So your solution is to tax the rich?”
“Oh… Well now that you put it that way… No I guess not.”
It’s so stupid, it could wrap around to being unbelievable. If only I hadn’t seen so much stupidity in such a small time, that is.
He thought he was talking to temporarily embarrassed millionaires
The district’s gone red for twenty years. So, yes.
We don’t tax billionaires to fight the national debt. We tax billionaires to fight BILLIONAIRES.
(But whatever gets us there I guess.)
I should probably have mentioned:
The main point of the post is that despite the connotations of the word “debt”, retiring the debt would be a disastrous mistake.
Even running multi-year neutral (or surplus) budgets would probably cause a recession.
And that’s not a weakness of the US economy, it’s just how fiat currency works.
That sounds like our economy is being held hostage by billionaires. “You can’t take money from us, it’ll make things worse for everyone”. Bullshit - they’ll try to make things worse for everyone but we don’t have to let them, which is exactly the point.
They are saying we need to target where the debt comes from not that we need to bend a knee to the billionaires.
We do use fractional reserve banking whether its a great system or not and so to not trigger a depression or recession we need to be aware of not triggering a deflationary period which would occur by having a surplus in the budget. Instead of excess spending on military we should be investing/spending excess in public infrastructure like health care, mass transportation, and education which have means of generating wealth beyond resource extraction from other nations during war.
They are saying this is a two pronged issue, we need to tax the billionaires but we also need to make sure we still target the right critical investments of public infrastructure with our government spending if we are to see any benefit from it. Otherwise we end in a deflationary period where while you did tax the rich you also delfated the currency making each dollar worth more. I.e they become millionaires in name with the same value as the billionaires they were before all while wages become depressed and the wealth gap gets even worse.
Video I found: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mUwdNOCenco
I’m sure whatever he said after that clip ends was in effort to gaslight that crowd into thinking taxing the rich is somehow a bad thing.
BuT thEYRe jOb CrEAtOrs!!!
ThEYrE pHilANthrOPists!!
INovAtIOn! ThEYrE iNnovATorS!!!
I loved the “job creators” argument because it is super easy to disprove.
If my company that has one employee makes twice the profits off the same number of orders as it made last year Im not hiring anyone because I don’t need to despite being able to afford it. What would make me hire someone else is the volume of orders increasing past the point where I can fill them hence the customers are the job creators.
And customers are created by average people having disposable income. Want jobs created? Tax the rich and spread that to the working class. EZPZ.
Working class working directly for other working class instead of corpos and billionaires is the wealth class’s worst nightmare because it makes it obvious to the average person nobody needs a wealth class, and they are leeching from society without doing anything productive for civilization.
Right?
This came up in another thread but folks were talking about how the rich don’t even like build libraries and theaters anymore. They don’t even pretend to care. They just build bunkers and yachts.
Plus let’s not forget that wages are an expense and thus a tax write-off for a business.
We now have 5 decades of solid evidence that trickle-down economics don’t work. Anyone still claiming the contrary is either a) delusional or b) rich.
Wont take long until they reintroduce taring and feathering.
Wait till you hear what rich folks say about that plan!
https://patrioticmillionaires.org/
(Spoiler: A lot of them agree)
Warren Buffet has been pointing this out for at least 20 years. Bill Gates for at least 6. It’s crazy how the most famous billionaires haven’t moved the needle.
If they agree then why aren’t they lobbying these politicians?
For every billionaire that agrees, 99 other billionaires disagree. 1 billionaire isn’t gonna win a fight against 99 billionaires
Edit: And also because they are Millionaires, much less influence lol
If they refuse to tax them, I say we EAT them.
What about their legs? They don’t need their legs
We should. Every year, during tax season, we should take the richest person (or company, fuck it) and redistribute 50% of their assets. Pay for UBI with it, fund social services, etc. Then we build a statue in their honor in the hall of “greatest winners”.
You know how some Chinese provinces eat frogs? I want my millionaire done like that, but I want to be the one who salts them.
Wood chipping the rich and their lineage is faster. Could even make them go through a water slide and end in the wood chipper.
No last words. No quotes. Simply cleaning an infection as indifferently as the maggots stuck to the side of the trash bag you toss out.
Thing about a class war is it only works as long as you can subdivide the lower classes and make them hate each other.
Even the GOP base has figured out that the boot on their neck belongs to the rich, probably thanks to Elon’s haphazard culling of govt employees, specifically veterans, while preserving funds that benefit the rich.
Say what you will about conservative voters, but when something is obviously harming them specifically they will go after it, and Trump’s administration has finally blundered enough to wake at least some of them up.
class war […] only works as long as you can subdivide the lower classes and make them hate each other.
That’s not how class war works, that’s how they try to prevent class war, ie war between classes.
I think they mean that’s the tactic used by the wealthy in their part of the class war.
It’s the same story with the status-quo-protectors vs innovation-seekers no?
First party just wants to stay put so everyone who thinks like them are already in the same camp. (zero vector)
Others side agrees that vector of “politicial compass” must be non-zero but they don’t agree on the direction so the net effect is 0, status quo.
I mean think about it guy you’ve been cutting taxes for the Rich for 50 years and the debt has gone up remarkably. It ain’t rocket science.
From 1980 to 2008 there was a perfect correlation between whether a Republican or Democrat was in the oval office and whether the debt was blowing up insanely or actually being paid off (Clinton, the lone Democratic President during that period, actually had a budget surplus the last two years of his Presidency). Unfortunately, it was still impossible to get Republicans to believe that the ballooning debt wasn’t the Democrats’ fault - “tax and spend liberals” etc. etc. Then Obama joined in the “deficits don’t matter” parade as did Biden, and now you can’t even use actual facts to try and convince people that Republicans are as far from being “fiscal conservatives” as it’s possible to be.
Why not tax those that can afford it?
Because I might be rich someday, and if that happens I’m going to want even more money. Or something like that.
That’s many Americans in a nutshell.
It’s why they’re racist and anti-LGBTQ, too. They think if those groups gain any power they’ll use it the way bigots would. The way bigots do.
they fear retribution, its going to happen one way or another.
They’re all temporarily embarrassed billionaires confused about the order in which they’re supposed to climb and kick the ladder.
Tax them or eat them.
How long do you think it will take, that trump ist making the words “Tax the Rich” a illegal pharse because i dont know … Maybe terrorism or some other stupid cause for that phrase?
