Quoting the rule from the community for reference:

  1. You must follow the Egg Prime Directive. You may not push or coerce people into identifying or not identifying a certain way. You must respect them as the gender they claim to identify as. In addition it is extremely in poor taste to make assumptions about other people’s identities based on external factors, we understand it cannot be helped but it is best not to as it can affect the way you treat others in noticeable ways.

Honestly, I’ve been anxious about this for a while, not sure if or how to bring this up. I understand the importance of the rule when it involves real people. But I’ve been seeing comics and memes getting criticized of breaking the Directive a couple of times now. But aren’t they just being shared from the creator’s perspective? Making fun of their own experience, such as, looking back, pointing out how obvious things seemed? When you see any other comic making fun of some situation, that doesn’t mean that applies to everyone. That’s not the statement the comic makes. It’s just something that may end up being, or having been, true for some people.

Am I wrong in feeling like the Egg Prime Directive is being invoked too easily when it comes to memes and comics?

edit: I hope this is the right place to make this post. (Also, technically, it’s breaking the title rule? Are meta posts allowed?) To be fair, I don’t recall where this has been happening the most, I’ve just seen it in my time browsing Lemmy and the many trans memes communities over the last few months. Also, note: The stickied post did not answer my question.

  • copygirlOP
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    1 day ago

    For a more concrete example, this post: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/22944727

    I found this comic really heckin’ funny. Then I checked the comments. “Egg Prime Directive” Was I… supposed to be in agreement that the comic is problematic? I can’t really, no matter how I tried to twist it in my head. (Props to the mod for leaving the post up even though they criticized it though.)

    Of course, nobody should do this to a real person, but this is a representation of something the artist has felt. We see comics of characters being ridiculous, or doing the impossible, and stories that involve violence or all manner of bad things. You wouldn’t take this to mean that you can or should do that in real life, right?

    People can rightfully inform others to tell them not to behave like that themselves. But I worry that if they’re too blunt (figuratively) shouting “Prime Egg Directive!”, there will be people that feel discouraged about expressing themselves artistically like this, or making light of their own past in certain ways. And again, I’ve legit felt anxious myself at times when this came up before, and even now when I’m trying to talk about it.

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      16 hours ago

      I’m not a mod, but personally I don’t think the egg prime directive does or should apply to fictional characters being discussed. I’ve had too many enjoyable discussions and ‘that’s not just me?’ realizations from speculation on/interpretation of a character as trans. It’s a way to connect with other trans peoples’ experiences.

      But, as you note, that’s the real life/fiction divide. The EPD exists to prevent the harm that would happen to people who encounter gatekeeping behavior over their gender. As long as you’re not doing that to actual people or otherwise making gatekeepey comments I don’t think you would need to worry about it.

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    1 day ago

    You cannot pick the fruit before it is ripe, or you shall suffer the poisoning effects that you deserve.

    On a similar note, do not hatch the chicken too early, and do not wake me up in the morning.

    edit: after reading your post, not just the title, i agree with you, there should be some artistic expression.