Are you fucking kidding me…
There’s a coup underway and the potential opposition is fretting about civility.
“Most of the 10 the Democrats are considered centrists in the party, and belong to either the Blue Dog Coalition, the New Democrat Coalition or the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus.”
“I don’t mind being one of 10 Democrats who said, no, there’s a deeper principle at stake here, which is reverence for this institution,” Himes said after the vote, adding that lawmakers need to act “with the decorum and with the civility that says to the world that we are a serious country.”
For fuck’s sake!
That’s exactly the kind of bullshit that shows that conservative Democrats are NOT serious about doing their ACTUAL job of serving and protecting the people, which is more important now than ever.
In a “serious country”, the outcomes for the people are taken MUCH more seriously than adoration of an ancient and broken system and useless etiquette.
“I have no love for Donald Trump, but I do have reverence for the Office of the President,” he told CNN’s Pamela Brown
Here’s how much respect anyone should have for an office: 🖕🖕
Respecting the office while the guy in that office has no respect for it.
Make it make sense.
This has big, “Guys! If we don’t get into the ovens then we look like the assholes,” energy.
Sure. It makes sense if you remember that democrats are cowards.
Cowards?
Pelosi was pretty brave defending insider trading after someone used her husband to stress test their hammer.
They aren’t cowards. They’re morons or traitors.
They aren’t -afraid- to do the right thing.
They’re afraid of losing money and power. Or worse, they actually think they’re doing a good thing.
Have they seen a parliamentary system in action.
The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York.
Democrats are absolutely fucking pathetic.
Primary the fuckers
Don’t stop with those 10, primary every last MF
You’re right and you should say it. Progressives in America need to execute a takeover just like the Tea Party did on the right. Primary out every moderate Dem.
You won’t win em all, but you’ll win enough to fundamentally change the direction of the party.
We don’t have to talk about this as a nebulous concept, there are groups that work to run progressives everywhere and they are currently seeing a surge in interest. We can get to work today
For instance, Run For Something supports progressives under 40 year-old both in primaries and general elections. They have had 26 thousand people sign up for them to run for local and state office since November alone. Jasmine Crockett came through the Run for Something pipeline, so this is not some hypothetical that doesn’t get results. They’ve gotten thousands of progressives elected at the local and state level, we can ramp that up. Consider running for state & local office yourself and encourage any progressive you know to run as well
Groups like Indivisible are also putting pressure on both Republicans and Dems and starting to get some degrees of success. For instance, they have gotten senate Dems to start using unanimous consent to slow down senate nominees like Russel Vought and RFK (they held the floor for the maximum 30 hours too)
You will always hear 10x more about the losses than the wins, but please know this is a fight we can win. There are people putting in the work and we can all join them
I’m bookmarking this comment so I can just direct people to it in future. Thank you.
The biggest issue with that is that the Tea Party was an astroturf movement backed by Koch brothers. We already have enough big money in politics. And it would be more beneficial for everyone if the DNC simply dropped off the face of the earth and was replaced by a workers party.
Your don’t have to be the Tea Party in order to replicate their success.
It might be better if you got some glorious new socialist workers party that appeared out of nowhere, but Santa doesn’t have any of those in his sack right now. Work with what you have.
What we have is 2 corporate owned parties that will do everything in their power to keep things the same. There is no reforming a corrupt system
What you have is rapidly encroaching fascism. What you need is any solution that gets you out of that.
You’re not looking for ideal. You’re looking for workable. You’re going to have a lot more success pushing forward leftist candidates in a party that already has an established base of support than you are in trying to somehow build sufficient momentum for a viable third party in a country that has basically never had viable third parties.
Also the Democrats that are supporting this bill https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/hr633/cosponsors
I see some overlap
Here’s the list:
- Dingell, Debbie D-MI6
- Dean, Madeleine D-PA4
- Plaskett, Stacey D-VI
- Costa, Jim D-CA21
- Lee, Susie D-NV3
- Khanna, Ro D-CA17
- Suozzi, Thomas D-NY3
Edit: here’s EFF page about it https://act.eff.org/action/the-take-it-down-act-will-censor-legal-speech-without-helping-victims/
Also contact your House rep (whether it is Democrat or Republican, yes they might ignore, but without you complaining it is much easier to do) to vote against it
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Here’s what I sent my rep:
Congressman Panetta,
As a constituent, I find the so-called “Take it Down” act terrifying especially in light of the President’s casual mention of personal use during his address to the joint meeting.
I have not seen any indication on your position as yet, but please actively campaign against it, and pressure our close neighbors Ro Khanna and Jim Costa, who are on the record supporting it to withdraw their support.
The only use this bill has for the authors is to limit freedom of speech and press.
10 Dinos
These are all the hard earned conservative Democrats the party has been working overtime to court.
at this point they are just as responsible for the current situation as the maghats
“…anger is growing among Democrats about Green’s antics — which they believe have consumed headlines and distracted from Trump’s actions”
I have not heard of any of Green’s antics because Trump’s antics are what’s consuming the headlines. Seriously, what a load of bullshit. I’m increasingly disgusted with Democrats’ lack of response.
Not to mention, the democratic base is mostly behind Green, because he’s doing something people are pissed. They want action. They don’t want weak, pathetic, little placard things that trump can’t even read.
These ten fuckwits need to get fucking primaried. It’s disgraceful. They just sided with fascists against one of their own, because that guy made them look bad.
How many allies has Green betrayed? How many vulnerable people has he put at risk?
I haven’t seen a single Democrat (voter, not these ghouls) appear angry about Green. If they even know about it.
If anything, I’ve seen more Democrats excited about him and saying they donated to him for it. I personally didn’t know Green before the event, and now I respect him for standing up for more people than he himself represents.
Fucking cowards.
Their thinking is that they gotta keep him in his place, I suppose.
Democrats prefer their performative politics like wearing pink and holding up paddle boards. Not actually speaking up against the administration.
Oh, but the CIVILITY!
The Tone Police are here to issue a correction against the Democrat that used the wrong fork at the dinner table. Meanwhile, Bronzo and fElon can do whatever the fuck they want…just boys being boys, oops, I mean, Republicans being Republicans.
When push comes to shove and I need to work someone over with a lead pipe, I’ll be sure to extend my pinkie finger so the tone police won’t get upset.
(Apologies to Rab C).
Why do we allow republicans into the democratic party? They do not strengthen the party, only the opposite.
It’s so Harris can win the election, it’s called civility and compassion unlike the Republicans we can forgive someone for their crimes
/s
Term limits…. Term limits for every politician
Term limits are an antidemocratic solution to an antidemocratic problem - the problem isn’t incumbent people, which the voters select, it’s incumbent corporate interests, which the voters don’t select.
Term limits for the legislature would create a revolving door of corporate shills. It takes a couple terms for a legislator to become skilled at the process and learn to make progress on their agenda - and to build a backbone to their donors.
Ultimately, everything people think would be solved by term limits would actually be solved by eliminating money from politics. We need to greatly diminish the incumbency advantage, which is fueled by money in politics, to give us legislators who have to be accountable to the voters instead of donors.
This is an interesting point. Would revoking citizens united solve this the same way?
I still think term limits could help get new perspectives into politics.
California has had term limits for state office for over a decade now. It hasn’t helped at all. It just gives more power to party bureaucrats and the civil servants at the expense of the electorate. Like almost every other quick fix, it’s worthless.
I did not know this! Thanks for sharing
Can we make just one tiny exception for Bernie Sanders?
10 DEM join GOP will not be enough to give President Trump a third term, but that may change given how things are going on right now.
Those motherfuckers. Get them out of office
Because of course they do. Surprisingly it wasn’t unanimous.
No no no, this headline is a lie. The Democrats weren’t appealing to the left, so we leftists abstained, and now the Democrats know we mean business and they’re on our side.
You sure showed the left, huh?
At least you didn’t have to treat them like they were worth shit, ever. Can you imagine having to stoop to treating the left like people with agency instead of people you can just kick until votes come out?
What does this actually mean?
So even when those 10 Democrats are elected, it’s still not good enough? They won their elections, they represent their districts. And that’s somehow not good enough, you gotta be smug about how people wanted a better option?
Like what is this take? “Because some leftists online talked about not wanting to support murder and courting Republicans, they are all to blame for Democrats voting with Republicans, even if they weren’t in their districts!”
Newsflash, those Democrats have been in office longer than people were (rightfully) saying that Harris’ positions might cost her the election. So I don’t think the shadowy cabal of online leftists that both are to blame for the election as a large voting bloc but also must never be listened to as it’s only a handful of people who can be ignored that can be blamed for these Blue Dog Democrats.
I’m not convinced these 10 Democrats exist. We let Trump get elected, the Democrats would be mad to be courting the right after that. No, I think this article is Rupert Murdoch propaganda. The Democrats have all embraced communism ever since we didn’t vote for Kamala.
