Summary
The Trump administration plans to revoke temporary legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians who fled Russia’s war, fast-tracking them for deportation.
The move is part of a broader effort to strip protections from 1.8 million migrants admitted under Biden’s humanitarian parole programs.
Trump’s policies also target 530,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
Legal challenges are mounting, as affected individuals face uncertain futures. Advocates warn that even U.S. allies, such as Afghans who assisted the military, are now at risk of detention and deportation.
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Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who remembered that this is what it was like the last time he was in office. Just every day some fresh hell, like a treadmill of anger and grief until the only real reason to protest is so that they don’t drive you permanently numb.
The scope of this new order is hard to contemplate. 0.77 million people who are being shown the door today. Our colossus is in need of a new credo.
“Give me your billionaires, your oligarchs, Your hunched war criminals yearning for the Lolita Express, The wretched refuse of your banking sectors. Send these, the landlords, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden arches!"
Edit to add: I know that it is currently only a plan. I do not need to bicker with anyone about this.
Im not American so I probably didn’t see a lot of this but my lasting impression was a lot of blustering and shit slinging but no real action or substance. Like everything he tried or promised either didn’t get done or was half arsed. Basically i saw it as incompetence and damage through inaction rather than the malicious active damage he is doing now.
You are partially right. For US Presidents, implementing policy is much harder than declaring it, something IIRC Bush and Obama echoed.
But on top of that, Trump had a lot of guardrails in the first term, a lot of old school Republicans and “regular” cabinet that watered down whatever ideas he had.
That is no longer the case. It’s only loyalists egging each other on now. And there’s already a lot more bite, it’s just so much that it’s hard to process.
He did a huge amount of harm to our government. Not quite like this time, where most of what he is doing is outright illegal and is essentially a soft coup, but really bad nonetheless - just mostly aimed at making him money and getting/keeping political power instead of destryoying the country. Much of that was outright illegal, but a lot of it was just breaches of “norms” and “decorum”.
I literally can’t fit it all into one comment, its so much and such a convoluted web of schemes and lies and crimes and support from other politicians/lawyers/the media. And every day was something new. I followed all the legal cases relating to his admin back in the first term - it was hard to keep up with even while it was all happening. Much of the reason he was never charged or indicted for so much of what he did is that you can’t criminally indict a sitting president.
The Mueller investigation into the Trump administration’s conduct with Russian political operatives found that he more than likely illegally colluded with Russia to the detriment of the US and to defraud and disenfranchise voters, but literally couldn’t charge Trump since he was a sitting president - hoping instead that someone would pick up the investigation when he could be charged. It is notable that that investigation produced 37 indictments and 7 convictions/guilty pleas, referred 14 more cases to DoJ for prosecution, and recovered like $48M in misappropriated government funds (the investigation cost $32M, so it was actually profitable). So, this investigation couldn’t prosecute Trump, but 34 people in his administration were indicted and the findings of the report suggested they would have prosecuted Trump if they were legally allowed to. That says all you need to know, IMO.
Not being able to indict a sitting president is the biggest bullshit policy of all time. Nobody should be above the law, especially the people in power.
It was also only based upon a DOJ memo of some sorts for a long time. The “Supreme Court”'s recent decision though makes it seem like the only legal remedy for an active criminal president is to impeach and then convict and remove them first.
It drove me crazy how much people acted like the Mueller investigation exonerated Trump completely. It absolutely did not and everyone just dropped the topic after it came out. Even Rachel Maddow who seemed to be desperately chasing her Woodward and Bernstein moment with her coverage of the investigation seemed to stop talking about the investigation as soon as the report came out as if there wasn’t anything to talk about, even though a bunch of Trump allies were charged and convicted for engaging in secret dealings with agents related to Russia.
MSNBC at the end of the day is a for-profit business.
This becomes what russian hegemonic law looks like in the US. The DOJ does whatever the Kremlin wants or needs on this, a sharp departure from other administrations or even other jurisdictions such as blue states. We become a patchwork of neomedieval geoplitical clashes constantly caught in between the jurisprudential spheres of entirely conflicting global and financial agendas. Individual politicians and public servants serving throughout the government become agents of different global factions and different hegemonies and the people are continually subjected not just to unstable and unreliable patterns of legal text and texts indicating some kind of public policy but to endlessly shifting pretext of every type to the jurisprudence and statecraft themselves. The federal government has been collapsing for a while but this just makes it faster than it has been.
Yeah, his first time around there were people who kept his worst ideas from being realized and drove away the worst of his associates. This time around those people are gone and he is surrounded by those associates and even worse people like Musk.
I remember stories from Trump’s first term about how his handlers had to babysit him and do things like hide his rough drafts of orders planning to go to war (he’d calm down and forget about them by the next day). It reminds me of the (hopefully apocryphal) story of how Nixon had to be lead to bed when he got roaring drunk and started threatening to nuke North Korea.
The staffers also preserved the documents he (illegally) shredded as a matter of habit, so scholars will hopefully be able to piece together what was going on in that hot mess someday.
None of those handlers are there this term. Trump spent the four years since his first term campaigning and gathering a crew of sycophantic parasites to do his bidding, and we have no view into what’s going on behind closed doors. The “checks and balances” every American was taught about as a child seem to be doing nothing, with him flagrantly ignoring them without reprisal.
I hope the US gets out of this as an intact democracy and without alienating every single ally in existence. People here don’t seem to realize how bad an antagonistic America would be - they have the military and logistics to take on half the world without nukes, and Trump has been very open (almost giddy) about his willingness to use those.
And a civil war would be worse since the government is wholly controlled by what most
wouldshould consider the bad guys and the military is trained to follow the chain of command, and Trump is openly purging top officials and replacing them with loyalists.Ugh, sorry for the rant. The last decade has been exhausting.
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That’s because the first term was to prepare
But the powerful people behind the scenes who are using him as a figurehead learned a lot from his first term and have been developing their plans for years since then. Biden winning a term just gave them more time to work on it. Though there’s still chaos like last time (so we don’t pay attention to the Project 2025 actions ), we see the lightning-fast implementation of their agenda from Day One: Schedule F (getting rid of civil service workers to be replaced with loyalists), firing the inspectors general to remove a major obstacle to implementing, the rash of executive orders for everything from the shibboleth “Gulf of America” to declaring a national state of emergency to clear the way for everything else. Trump’s impulsivity can sometimes get in the way, but he’s otherwise the perfect figurehead because he also agrees with the agenda.
Yeah his first term was mind-melting, nonstop nonsense. Same again now but even worse. I can’t believe people are so easily capable of forgetting.
Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who remembered that this is what it was like the last time he was in office
I feel like it’s worse this time. Darker. We didn’t have the Ukraine or Israeli war. We didn’t have perverse AI videos like the Gaza video with a giant golden Trump statue.
2016 was the rise of Trump. Right now we are in the age of Trump. Trump is steadily increasing his power and I believe fairly soon he will be able to more or less unilaterally control the federal government as he continues his purges.
That is a large amount of people being sent back to a country where there is a good possibility that they will be killed. The country that is throwing them out (the US) has a lot of sympathetic people to their cause…and a lot of easily accessible guns.
Golden Arches works, but now we can use Golden Dome too.
Tell me Trump is a Russian asset without saying he’s a Russian asset.
I hate that i can understand this with my 0.001 knowledge of russian. You are not my brother, you are my state* (oblast)
How does this specifically benefit russia? Ukraine government is drafting people by force and not allowing any male between 18-60 from leaving the country.
0.7M more people who the government needs to handle logistics and civil infrastructure for. It’s about trying to exhaust the war resources in ways that don’t directly influence the war in Ukraine’s favor.
And 0.7m people working. Ukraine is suffering a labor shortage because of the war. Unless these are old or infirm people, people tend to produce more with there labor then they take out in government services. This is one of the reasons immigration is a good thing and why this is a bad move for the u.s.
It’s a lot to assume these people would make it back to Ukraine. This move isn’t about directly benefiting Russia. It’s meant to hurt Ukrainians and anyone who supports them for daring to defy Russia.
I remember hearing Trump’s foreign policy described as “isolationist.”
He’s not an isolationist.
He’s on Russia’s side.
I would prefer if he were an isolationist.
This, and I would go further. There is no such thing as right and left for russian puppets. Their “ideology” is whatever is needed for their particular populace and the only thing aligning them around the world is the trail of money.
Well then the next step is actual betrayal of Ukraine by giving their intel to Russia.
Never mind he’s probably already doing so.
Amazing that there are still groups of people looking at these decisions and trying to discern the rationale behind them as if there was any. Mental Olympics at this point.
So at this point it’s not even illegals but those that have gone through the effort to obtain status. What the actual fuck.
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Or at least his wife.
Would he notice at this point?
This traitor is destroying all our allegiances. In a single month.
It’s time for America to accept that we have placed a literal traitor in the highest office.
And it’s time for us to man the fuck up and start adhering to our fucking Constitution. We’re letting a felon rapist traitor fuck our future.
Who’s going to do it? All I see is a bunch of internet talk. There’s no leadership. Just a bunch of ppl scared and posting online or emailing/calling senators. We especially need straight white men standing up. The dem paddle holding was just pathetic.
Krasnov’s got his own cabinet afraid to dissent, nevermind the cowardly Libs he’s pwning.
The world is watching you, Murca, and we’re turning away from you while you let this happen. On your streets, none of you are willing to admit you were lied to. You can’t afford this ignorance.
As someone that is part of the demographics eventually under attack by Krasnov I need the protected class to stand up. I would leave the country if I could. Not easy to do for everyone.
Thanks for sharing. I really hope there is such a thing as the protected class in Murcan future.
As Krasnov says, they don’t have any cards. Only the bullies of the world will have cards in his game.
Yes at the end of the day it was white people who put us in this position being the majority of voters for trump. My wife and I are both POC and our respective populations were majority voting for Harris. We are the most obvious people on the chopping block for death camps. I can understand people being frustrated with Americans in general but POC have always been marginalized and our populations not big enough, we aren’t at fault for this but far too many are acting as if it is. We don’t have left wing milita groups as far as I know. I’ve never heard of any where I live. We don’t have organized resistance set up on our end and I have no fucking clue how to get organized like that and not make rookie mistakes that would get people killed/imprisoned before they could do anything meaningful. I do believe however that much of the ‘hate’ we are seeing directed at us is being fanned heavily russian/chinese/iranian troll groups to artificially grow a divide between left leaning Americans and the rest of the world.
We don’t have organized resistance set up on our end and I have no fucking clue how to get organized like that and not make rookie mistakes that would get people killed/imprisoned before they could do anything meaningful.
This is not and endorsement of these organizations, but it’s a place to start research from that won’t feel as much like flailing in the dark.
I really don’t know what to do. I’ve got kids. I don’t want to be imprisoned. I don’t want to die and I don’t want them to die. Sad that it comes to this, but it is what it is. The only thing that brings me solace is that almost as many ppl voted for Harris as him. And honestly she was kind of a weak candidate. Wasn’t a big fan of Biden or her. Is the only way to survive to leave the country?
https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/SimpleSabotage.pdf
There are many ways to resist friend. What you can, where you can, however you can.
Talk eventually becomes action, if there is enough of it. By people agreeing with each other, they eventually normalize a thought. It could be something mundane like “this drawn girl is cute”, and eventually snowball into “Last night’s Hatsune Miku concert was rad, met twenty other cosplayers!”
Let people talk. It how communities become real.
Do we have any voices as powerful as those in WWII? I have yet to hear someone with a truly powerful place in media speak a heartfelt plea to the Americans because the media has been bought. Even if there was someone who could reach out and speak a message that people could hear, they would never let it air in a place where it mattered.
The amount of friends I have who are perfectly normal and sane people who are bringing up in casual conversations the hope for Trump to be assassinated is insanely high. I’m in Canada.
The ICE fucks who are ordered to arrest Ukrainians here fleeing wartime (children, mothers, elderly) better fucking resign and/or blatantly refuse this shit. If not, these traitors should be executed right along with trump and vance.
Good people don’t become ICE.
Good people don’t become and remain any sort of unlawful enforcement officer. ACAC. All Cops Are Criminals.
Not resign, only refuse
Why is Trump still living?
Poor markmanship.
Oh comon, that was a really good shot under pressure
Yeah. Shooting targets is hard. Especially when it’s oozing to and fro on a stage X number of yards away.
The real question is if it had made contact with his head, would it have killed him since his brain occupies such a small portion of that head? People often can live if a bullet doesn’t hit any vital organs.
Most people who care what happens to others they never met are not murderers.
People who know people affected are usually powerless.
That kid almost became a historic legend.
I honestly don’t know what would have happened. Would the country have been upset and voted for whatever other scum Republicans tossed in as Trump’s replacement? Would it have been too late and the country would have just defaulted to Dems to be safe? I don’t know. But the kid would have still been a hero.
Sooooooo close.
The republican that took his spot would have won with a big majority but at least it wouldn’t be a Russian asset
Not so sure how many republicans in office aren’t Russian assets at this point. There’s a bunch of them though, have been for a while.
Vance probably would have stepped up as the candidate. Would he win vs Kamala? Hard to say, he ain’t no Trump, but his chances would still be decent considering the current known track record of female candidates
High school rifle club.
He’s living proof that time travel into the past is never going to get invented … likely because he cut most science funding.
Best comment I have read in quite a long time.
how do you know we are not living in the dregs of what science should have been?
I’m not so sure about that.
Just like the Federation in the Star Trek universe had the Prime Directive (rule) that prohibits its members from interfering with the natural development of alien civilization, I can see how time travel could have a similar rule. Going back in time to mess with things can create all kinds of unintentional butterfly effects.As Gandalf says “Even the very wise cannot see all ends”
Going back in time to mess with things can create all kinds of unintentional butterfly effects.
omg, maybe this timeline is a butterfly effect!
Just by a few inches… If even that.
Tbh, the shot looks like it would’ve blown the back of his dome off if he hadn’t done his classic chicken head jerk at the last possible second, probably right as the shooter was pulling the trigger. Instead, it grazed his ear. Missed him by literally half a second.
Should have gone for the heart; I don’t think further damaging the brain would have much effect.
What heart? For real, though, even a shallow angle impact here probably would’ve been catastrophic. The occipital lobe and brain stem control a lot of the very fundamental functions of continuing to be alive. It’s nuts how narrowly Trump avoided getting a game over screen.
Though, yeah, a center of mass shot probably would have been all she wrote for Trump. My guess is that the shooter had a very, very narrow line of sight on Trump, and probably only had the head as an option. That’s likely why a few other people were injured or killed in the attempt; IIRC they were inadvertently between Trump and the shooter.
It would have just bounced off the lump of coal.
Because America is too weak to deal with internal threats.
In less than 24 hours we can reign unholy fire down upon any enemy anywhere on the globe. But if they’re in our own backyard we cower before them and allow them to abuse us repeatedly.
And that is why our democracy will collapse and our quality of life will decline.
The universe isn’t benevolent
This is evil. The US needs an armed resistance at this point having said that there is no organization, there is no structure or any groups that I know of to join. Individuals acting on their own won’t do much, who are people supposed to go after? Where do you find them, how do you achieve the goal? These questions are much more easily answered with an organized resistance. If my country is going to go down this route we have to have this in place first. Until this happens I wouldn’t expect much from the people in the US who want to go this route because they want to be able to make a meaningful impact not just become mass shooters hopefully taking down the right people.
You want to talk of insurrection? We Americans have the FBI and NSA to worry about, so don’t count on hearing about partisan activity before it actually happens.
They’re more than likely in disarray right now because of all the mass firings and various insanity going on at the top of those departments.
If you don’t have one, MAKE ONE.
Also, individuals can do a lot more than you think
“This is evil”
Stephen Miller has entered the chat.
Not that it helps organize, but I also work at a custom AR shop, if lemmings have questions about firearms I’d be happy to assist.
Just ask the fucking Canadians, they have all the answers on what we SHOULD do.
No answers, but I for one might just have an idea of what you could do.
Not content with being a Russian asset and Convicted Felon, Donald is apparently straight shooting for War Crimes now.
Always have been.
no wonder he wants to leave UN.
Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
::Looks at Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart::
Yes.
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If I wrote the list of actions and demonstrations I visited and helped organize in the last 15 years, I’d get accused of bragging. There’s no winning against that argument, it’s either “Show me what you’ve done” ::Shows all the things:: “You’re bragging” or ::Shows nothing:: “See? I’m right.”
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In middleschool some peers and I helped run a fundraiser and helped organize in 2003 against the war in Iraq (kinda started here, cuz I naiively thought we were past that as a species)
When living in America during my teens, attended every protest I could physically go to to march against KKK and NeoNazi rally’s, we even (foolishly) got physical with them.
November 2011 was at Occupy Wall St. where 800+ of us were arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge. (first time being arrested at a protest)
2012-2013 worked with Greenpeace, Wilderness Society, and alongside with Bob Irwin (Steve Irwin’s dad) in his Fight for the Reef campaign to protect the Great Barrier Reef from coal shipping expansion (successfully managed to delay the Australian coal industries plan for a whole year, sadly they dredged the GBR anyway but I’d like to think we gave them a headache.)
2013 onwards - Attended every protest but at this point I’m past yelling and shouting, nowadays I hand out bottles of water and information on rights and what to do if you’re arrested or confronted by police.
2024 - Helped defend Plymouth UK from the fascist pogroms, same as above except also using my body as a shield to protect others from bricks. Hurt like a bitch but i’d take a million more. Also help run classes and leftist meetings alongside socialist members of government to teach members of the public everything from history of anti-fascism to safe resistance to mutual aid and preformative politics to cybersecurity to fascist dog-whistles and local fascist groups.
Does this qualify as doing something?
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Is being smug and looking down on people from your high horse worth it? Are you enjoying yourself?
This is why I don’t share the things I’ve done to try and help, because random people on the internet who have done nothing say shit like this. Like I said, there’s no winning, i’m either bragging or lying. You asked I answered, and you’re still not happy.
EDIT - I was open enough to share a list of things i’ve done, do you mind sharing yours?
Especially those of us who are POC/LGBTQ+ we aren’t the fucking problem any more than the German Jews who voted in their elections when hitler was elected. These people apparently would have blamed German Jews for ‘doing nothing’ and then fleeing their country instead of ‘staying to fix it’ and they don’t seem to understand what they’re saying. I do honestly believe there is a concerted russian/foreign effort to fan the flames of division between left leaning Americans and the rest of the world. Our populations overwhelmingly voted against trump we don’t have the fucking numbers but yep we’re all at fault and apparently we should go around committing mass shootings until we get what we want even if we end up killing other democratic party supporters as long as we get one magat…
Speak for yourself.
This is not about any individuals, it’s about America as a whole!!!
Believe it or not yes some of us are trying to do something.
Speak for yourself.
I’m still waiting to hear what they’ve done to combat injustice in their home today. Or even yesterday for that matter.
EDIT - They responded, they’re a G.
This is not about normal politics, or business as usual, it’s about Trump destroying USA. In my country there is nothing remotely close to Trump or Republicans to demonstrate against, because we have a democracy that actually works.
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It’s in Europe, but I guess you meant which country it is, which is Denmark.
And there is nothing magical about it, there are several similar countries that have functioning democracies.
To have a functioning democracy is not magical. But yes we do demonstrate if there are issues that require it. And we do have grass root movements. That can organize demonstrations quickly when needed.
Many idiots who are understandably mad/frustrated as well as foreign trolls/bots are trying to get Americans to become indiscriminate mass shooters regardless of who they end up taking down with them. The normal people telling us to get violent don’t understand what it really takes to get an organized militant anti-government group off the ground. Any ‘violence’ that happens in this country by our side cannot be indiscriminate it must be targeted and reduce collateral damage to other people who support us.
There are a lot of protests going on right now - the news isn’t covering it.
I think the legal, standing around with signs protest is going to have to have its toothier cousin (the violent riot) starting up again alongside it if we want anything to change. They already painted the 2020 protests as “burning the cities down” despite them being >90% peaceful. We might as well – to reference Kendrick Lamar’s lyrics – fuck being rational and give em what they asked for.
Yup.
Legal avenues and peaceful protests aren’t viable.
Violence will have to be the answer. Historically it always is if legal avenues and peaceful protests fail.
Fascists do not respond to anything other than violence.
It’s coming. The question is how much violence will be necessary to bring about change?
And it all could have been avoided if Americans behaved like adults and refrained from empowering a traitorous felon rapist.
Are people supposed to go around committing mass shootings where they believe magats are? Is that the violence we should be committing here in the US? Maybe we get a magat, maybe we get other blue voters and their families? I’m not saying violence won’t have it’s place if necessary but it needs to be targeted and there are no left wing organized groups out there to coordinate that.
Is that what you think a riot is? A mass shooting?
Dude there are things between holding signs in free speech zones and mass shootings.
Where? how do you know? how does the rest of the world find out about these?
I was curious what would happen if I googled “protests happening right now” and interestingly enough, it sent back this link: https://usprotests.liveuamap.com/
I’d question the credibility at this point. I’ve spent 0 minutes on there.
Aside from that…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-NxUYGpAo&list=RDNSdN-NxUYGpAo&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXcaRvKAz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHitRUYRbdk&list=RDNSNHitRUYRbdk&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tro3pCO0YWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMF2OU-xR4
Honestly, just fucking around on Lemmy every other day or so, I always see a new post regarding a protest.
Thanks for the links!.. definitely a balm on the shattered trust in the American people
There are images each week of a new protest in my city subreddit on reddit
Being part of three of them myself in MN is how I would know they’re happening. Are you just believing the lies that not a single one of us is doing anything whatsoever?
Why are you offended at anone asking for evidence?
Maybe is more people asked for evidence, the world wouldn’t be in such a mess now
Been to three so far in MN already and plenty before that. Things will get wilder as the weather warms up as sad as that is, it is a reality.
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
It appears so.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically. Our government is not equipped to deal with internal threats like this. We have too many weaknesses within our system and too many individuals unwilling to live up to their oaths.
That leaves it up to the general public. Right now, not gonna happen. Not sure what’s going to happen over the next few years. Things are going to get progressively worse. People will get more desperate. Violent crime will increase. These factors may push Americans to protest, probably violently, at levels never before seen in this country. That could bring about a positive change. But I’m not really betting on that happening. People are complacent. People are wage slaves. We’re going to have to lose our internet and TV and cell phone service before Americans get bloodthirsty on a large scale. Or if they seriously fuck with social security. That’ll cause riots.
But if they’re even remotely smart fascists they’d know to do this all slowly to prevent Americans from noticing or at least to prevent them from getting super mad super quick. Like, fuck with Social Security a little bit, so people get mad, but not that mad. Then do it some more a year later.
They’re not particularly smart though. So we’re basically going to see over the next few years if Americans can live up to our rebellious stereotype or if we’ve become meek and frail through lack of true hardship.
The general public that opposes this isn’t organized yet. This needs to happen first. People seem to want Americans who oppose this to go out and do mass shootings in areas we THINK there might be magats and hope for the best. I really think a lot of this is russian/other foreign trolls trying to rage bait someone into doing this. The people who want to go that route need to have intelligence and other leg work done for them to point them to the right places to get the most optimal results with the least collateral damage. I have no clue how to organize in a way that rookie mistakes wouldn’t be made and people wouldn’t end up getting imprisoned or killed before they were able to get what they wanted to accomplish done.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically.
Absolutely, the whole system was based on the administration respecting the law, when it doesn’t do that, all the checks and balances don’t work.
They’re not particularly smart though.
Sadly that seems like the best hope we have.
Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
I’d rather live in neo-fascist USA than in a war zone where I’m liable to be sent to the frontlines and die bleeding out in a trench after a drone blows my leg off.
I’d rather live in neo-fascist USA than live in poverty in many parts of Latin America where I would make 10x higher salary for unskilled labor. I would also have a 10x lower chance of getting my throat slit walking down the street at night.
Neo-fascist USA has literally threatened war with Canada and other neighboring countries, so if you think you won’t be on the front lines in a nonsense war started by fascists, then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
Chances are you and other Americans will be fighting in Ukraine alongside Russia by next year at the rate this clown show is excellerating.
There’s no American freedom in Neo-fascist USA, just whatever the broligarchy wants. The rights and freedom you, and every previous generation of Americans fought for are pretty much all gone now, so you are sorely mistaken if you assume you now have any.
i was born in a country with a military dictatorship who used to disappear people. just because the country is going to hell doesn’t mean you can’t carve out a meaningful life for yourself in the chaos. and living in a dystopian version of the US is probably still better than living in a dystopian version of a 3rd world country
then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
at no point in US history has the US been at war with a neighboring country over a trade war escalation and instituted a draft as a result of that war
any future war is going to be versus China and we’ve probably got at least a few years before that comes to fruition.
we’re in the years leading up to WW3. think of it like the early 1930s. if you look at history, everywhere sucked. i’d rather be in a 1st world country when the bombs go off rather than a 3rd world country where i’m liable to starve due to mass famines
You’re arguing for the pros of living in Germany post WW2. Because if WW3 happens, the US will not be on the side of the good guys.
Im sorry you lived in a 3rd world dictatorship. I imagine you moved to the US to escape that. I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place, rather than be complacent as we break bad due to social medias firehose of propaganda.
I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place
i would very much like to preserve the freedom as well. i’m not pro-fascism if that wasn’t clear
i was just saying that even if shit gets really bad here people may still come because everything else could be worse
Fair enough. And thanks for the clarification.
That’s not exactly voluntarily then, if it’s to save your life.
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
Yeah, pretty likely.
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He doesn’t give a fuck about the minerals. This is all Putin’s bidding. Zelensky never had a deal, and Traitor Trump never intended to honour it. Next up is the dismantling of NATO, which is already partially done.
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I can’t believe the cruelty. I’m just… But… No words.
From safe haven to eviction notice—America’s moral compass just hit rock bottom.
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It’s fascism by ethnic cleansing. Expect a looooooot more. The pedo wants a 3rd world war and it will happen. He’s starting by Canada because he thinks it’s an easy target, but also because it’s the perfect battleground to display his army’s power. Unfortunately, americans are too lazy and under-educated to do anything about it so expect a lot of blood and a lot of fat-ass patriotism because “war time”. But in the end, only the rich assholes will be protected because capitalism gave them the control on everything, think gafam. Good job USA, you ruined the world, fuck you.
Personally, I’d expect Mexico to be first considering Trump had sent in elements of 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Combat Aviation Brigade, and additional support units which includes elements of 82nd ABN DIV, 101st ABN DIV, 4th ID, and 10th Mountain Brigade to the southern border a couple days ago.
Additional units albeit National Guard are being prepared to be deployed such as the 36th ID, 1st Squadron, and 124th CAV REG.
Nah, first they take Greenland then they take Canada.
they got thier places like NEW ZEALAND TO flee too, NZ should really revoke those citizenship from people like thiel, he is building a complex there to hide from where all the shit hits the fan.
What the fuck…
