• Freyi@lemmy.sdf.org
    1·
    3 hours ago

    Tiddlywiki with the Stroll extension for backlinks. Stored as one big encrypted file you can lob onto a network drive etc. Mine is in Dropbox.

    Can’t really use it across devices safely though, or at least I haven’t tried.

  • kaosof@lemmy.world
    5·
    7 hours ago

    I don’t understand why these Google alternatives don’t lean hard on actually replacing Google’s services.

    Myself as an example; if Notesnook had collaboration, I’d switch in a heartbeat.

    Thr main use-case for an app like this for me is in things like grocery lists, to-do lists etc, all of which are impossible or annoying to do with Notesnook.

    For general offline notes that need to be encrypted there are other solutions I’d rather use. I’d like if I could just use one app for it.

    Me and my partner would HAPPILY pay for an app to get out of Google’S clutches.

    There’s money on the table, but they ain’t counting it yet.

    Why?

  • Sʏʟᴇɴᴄᴇ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    4·
    21 hours ago

    I have multiple notes apps but one thing that’s prevented me from ditching keep is that I have dozens of old notes which I’d like to transfer to the replacement app.

    I’m pretty tech savvy but have had a look and couldn’t find an easy way to export my notes from keep. Anyone have any advice?

    • hasanhaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4·
      21 hours ago

      I’ve spent a lot of time manually moving my notes into Obsidian. Not done yet but it’s quite therapeutic when I sit down to do and I rediscover a lot of cool things I decided to jot down years ago

  • Kit
    1·
    20 hours ago

    I switched from Win10 to Fedora Linux yesterday. Any recommendations for a note taking app that runs locally on my computer? I know nothing about Linux but I got upset because Windows started showing ads on my login screen.

    • ArchRecord@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      21 hours ago

      Seconded. I’m not terribly happy it’s closed-source, but the team seems quite ethical in their approach to software development and user privacy, and for anyone not in the know about Obsidian, the big highlights that still make it worth it for me are:

      • Markdown formatted notes (standard format you can port across many different kinds of apps, especially useful as an exit strategy if Obsidian ever enshittifies)
      • Plugins & Themes (Add basically any arbitrary functionality or looks you need, from structured query languages to analyze your notes, to automatic image format converters)
      • Note Linking (being able to link your notes like so: [[Name of Note]] (shows as Name of Note in reading mode) so you can easily structure your knowledge, and build relationships between notes
    • Marighost@lemm.ee
      17·
      2 days ago

      And with Obsidian I still own my files, which are just in markdown and can be read by literally any other program.

      • kerf@lemmy.world
        3·
        9 hours ago

        I don’t know about electron but I tried Logseq because Obsidians license didn’t work for me. It’s open source and markdown files too

    • ebolapie@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 hours ago

      This looks absolutely amazing. It addresses a lot of the problems I have with traditional notebooks. I have often joked/lamented that my problem is not that my brain’s library wants for books, but rather for shelves. This looks like a shelving system my brain might work with. Thank you, sincerely, for posting.

      • something_random_tho@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        Unlike every other note app I’ve ever used, you don’t need to organize things manually or manage an organizational hierarchy (like folders, etc). That’s where I always fall over in other apps, eventually. Organization happens automatically in Logseq.

        It gives you a new, date-stamped journal entry everyday, and you jot down notes in that. You can link to other pages just by adding a hashtag or using 2 square brackets around some text. Each link/hashtag is automatically given its own page, and if you visit it, you’ll see all your mentions of this page, neatly organized in a chronological order by the date. So think about daily work on a project/goal, or anything around a specific topic, all of it is automatically organized for you.

        Under the hood, all the links form a graph and Logseq is backed by a graph database, so it visualizes this graph for you and gives you some powerful querying tools on top of it too.

        • freeman@feddit.org
          1·
          4 hours ago

          That sounds like obsidian, i assume both use markdown. Have you ever tested exporting/importing from one to the other?

  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    4·
    1 day ago

    I just store my notes locally. Using QOwnNotes currently as I looked at a list of FOSS options and picked what I liked the look of. Manage my own backups already so just included the notes.

  • stray@pawb.social
    5·
    1 day ago

    After looking at Notesnook, I don’t really understand the difference. It has features that Google Keep lacks, but if the company were to shut down their servers I would lose anything not stored locally, right? If I delete a file on one device it’s presumably removed from the others upon sync, so couldn’t they remotely delete my files from any connected device if they wanted to?

    I don’t understand encryption in the first place, so this is probably an ignorant question, but can’t the company that runs the software choose to release the encryption keys anyway? My understanding is that encryption only protects my data from interception by a third party.

    Assuming I’m not wrong on those points, isn’t it better to only store files locally, and to share them either on physical media or via a service which won’t store the files long-term? Is the issue of leaked or lost data not inherent in any hosting service?

    Sorry if everything I’m saying is really stupid. I’m not trying to troll or argue in favor of Google services or anything. I just don’t understand how to evaluate any given service’s trustworthiness or safety.

    e: I just thought to check whether Google Keep is encrypted and the internet says it is. Now I extra don’t get it. Very confused.

    • Robust Mirror@aussie.zone
      9·
      1 day ago

      Regarding encryption, some companies hold the encryption keys, but many, including Notesnook, use end-to-end encryption. This means the encryption happens on your device and the keys are generated from your password and stored locally rather than on the company’s servers.

      In that scenario the company never has access to the keys in the first place, so they wouldn’t be able to release them even if they wanted to.

      Google Keep on the other hand does not use end-to-end encryption for your notes. While it does use encryption to protect data both during transmission and while stored on its servers, Google retains the ability to access the content of your notes. This means that although your data is safeguarded against external threats, Google’s internal systems can still access your information.

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
    19·
    2 days ago

    I chose Nextcloud Notes because I already have it anyway, and it’s good enough for me.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
      26·
      2 days ago

      Just a friendly reminder that if you use an external nextcloud, that it is most likely unencrypted. The recommendations in the post body (or my own, like using https://cryptpad.fr/) are probably a better choice if you are not self hosting nextcloud yourself.

      However if you are self hosting it, it should be fine 👍 KIM these are just recommendations :)

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
    6·
    2 days ago

    What’s everyone’s goto app for sharing notes with others? I’m looking for something to share grocery lists and whatnot with my SO, and I want as little friction as possible.

    I have some self-hosted services, but I didn’t like NextCloud notes and one or two others I’ve tried. It doesn’t need to be fancy, but I would very much like checkboxes that I can… check. I don’t need users, and honestly, no user accounts could be super nice, just attach a URL and go for it.

    So yeah, slight preference for self-hostable services, but I’m fine with anything, provided it’s reasonably privacy friendly (nobody else needs to know the quantity or size of our sex toys lol).

  • Coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    10·
    2 days ago

    I like Joplin, and I’ll use Standard Notes as soon as I don’t have to pay extra, I’m already paying Proton.

  • peanuts4lifeEnglish
    7·
    2 days ago

    Is this really true about Keep? I mean, I know it’s a Google product, but is it really that insecure? I’ve never heard much negative stuff about it.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
      4·
      1 day ago

      Your notes are (or at least were 4 years ago when I last used it) stored in plaintext on your gmail under the notes tag. You don’t hear negative stuff about it because 99% of people don’t use notes for sensitive info, or even things they care about. It is also not a high profile app like messaging apps. It is just something everyone assumes is completely fine.

  • belastend@slrpnk.net
    3·
    2 days ago

    I found no replacement for notion that uses this block structure. I love it, but notion sucks so much aaaaaaassss. I wanna move, but every export feature breaks something in my structure and i hate it :(

    • JC1@lemmy.ca
      1·
      1 day ago

      I’m looking into this also. The closest I found is Siyuan notes. I’m trying to setup the sync during the trial period.

  • yopp@infosec.pubEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    Sadly there is still no alternative to Notion (it’s not a note taking app, it’s database). Only SiYuan is somewhat close to Notion in its database capabilities, but comes with its own set of issues.

    I would absolutely love to self-host real Notion alternative!

    • simpliston@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      Have you heard of AppFlowy? It’s basically Notion, but open source and privacy-respecting. Iirc, it has an import function from Notion

      • Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        2 days ago

        There’s I sadly not a motion alternative. As the person you answered to said: notion is a fancy frontend nosql database. I’m forced to use it at work and have to admit it’s need three Foss tools to handle everything my employer does with notion (documentation, task management and planning, client collaboration, project coordination, budget planning, they use the full scope).

        I’d still prefer docmost (thanks btw! Didn’t know it beforehand). No sell though for the full transfer.

        And they is even without the “I need someone to shout at when something goes wrong” aspect the corporate world enjoys about “SAAS” (service my as, you just don’t allow me to install it myself).