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- world@quokk.au
Soldiers put an explosive cord around the man’s neck and forced him to scout buildings for eight hours. After his release, another division shot him dead.
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Congrats; Israelis are now tied with Americans as being the most despised people on the entire planet.
Remember this and the many other examples when they try to call themselves “the most moral army in the world”.
at this point they can’t even claim moral superiority over Nazis let alone a world wide rank.
“Death to Israel” is not a promotion of genocide. I wish for the state of Israel to no longer exist. Israel is predicated on genocide, and is beyond redemption. Imagine thinking that saying “death to Nazi Germany” was a genocidal statement.
.world mods doing what they do best, being no different than reddit.
Reddit never had mods like this, that i know of, this is legit crazy.
But “Death to Germany” would be if the idea was to kill or displace the majority of German.
Within a German context that in particular actually rather means death of the national idea, cf. Slime’s Deutschland muss sterben, “Germany must die”, which, as correctly recognised by the constitutional court, expresses a counterpoint to the Prussian/Nazi militaristic parole “Germany must live, even if we shall die”. The song, taking up sentiment that the court traces back to at least 1844, turns that around into “Germany must die so we may live”, reaffirming individual (and regional) freedom and identity in the face of an encroaching normative force of “Germanness”.
You don’t often see a constitutional court getting into analysis of a punk song but when it happens, well, it’s glorious. And Nazis loathe that sentiment. Two years ago the Bundestag had a debate about regional and minority languages, the AfD was incapable of finding a single parliamentarian of theirs who spoke any. The thing is that while they’re the ones shouting loudest about “protecting German culture”, they’re the last ones to actually value any culture from anywhere in Germany – they want to replace everything with their own ideas, and German nationalism has been like that since pretty much forever. So, yes, Germany must die.
Very informative, thank you.
Sure, and “happy birthday” would be a genocidal statement if the idea was to kill or displace the majority of Scottish.
The intention matters, yes.
What would “Death to Palestine” mean to you? Is it a call for violence against Palestinians or is it a weird way to tell “Merry Christmas” ?
“Death to Palestine” is exactly what is happening, right along with “death to Palestinians”. You are both-sidesing an active genocide. FOH.
I agree that there is a genocide going on, I’m just pointing out that it is a bit hypocritical to consider “Death to Israel” as being ok while any other “Death to X” being a call for violence.
Israel has as much right to exist than Palestine. And those who uses violence to further their agenda should be stopped at all cost, no matter the side they are on.
No, absolutely not. Palestinians have a right to violent struggle, as an occupied and oppressed people. That is a defensive and liberatory struggle. Israel’s violence is that of genocide and colonialism.
“Death to [geographical place]” shouldn’t be said by anyone. However it’s meant, it’s way too easy for people to take literally, and it provides cover for the few that actually do mean literal harm. Maybe you mean “down with Israel,” but even that can be taken the wrong way. (Much like saying “down with [monarch]” would historically be understood to mean that monarch should die as opposed to stepping down.)
I really don’t care how you take my opposition to a genocidal state. The crimes of Israel demand a much stronger international response than they are getting. You can cry about my tone but I think strong language is warranted. Hear me again: I do not want all “Israelis” killed. I want the state of “Israel” itself destroyed.
All I’m saying is that you should say what you mean then (as you did in this reply), and not what can very easily be used against you.
You do you, I’ll do me.
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Explosives around necks and executions…
What group does that remind me off…
As someone who lives in Occupied Palestine, im not surprised. The IOF is a cruel genocidal military and the occupation government that backs them are just as bad.
Fucking war criminals
This is why you never cooperate.
Death to Israel.
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I am neither Muslim nor a country. Just a human being witnessing the inhumanity of Israel’s genocide. They have forfeit any right to be a country.
And so has gaza, which was never a country and is just an area where the actual countries in the Middle East discarded their undesirables
If Muslims quit attacking Israel, Israel would quit attacking them. I remember Egypt becoming civilized in ‘79 and not having any more issues. Tracking my family in Tel Aviv it scared this shit out of me with the constant barrage of rockets. It doesn’t matter they were shoulder fired and some didn’t have armaments. They chose to act like they were at war and the “government” such as it is of gaza is wholly to blame and has always advocated genocide.
Occupied people have a right to self defense. The whole world recognizes the genocide that Israel is perpetrating. Liberation for the people of Palestine. Destruction to the settlers.
He can’t answer the mods delete anything that goes against what they think.
Lol get wrecked, genocide enjoyers.
LoL. You can’t make this shit up.
Exactly. He can say death to Israel but if you say the same sentence with the other place you’re banned
Let me tweak that for you so you can maybe understand what’s going on here:
“He can say death to Nazi Germany but if you say the same sentence with Poland you’re banned”
0 surprise
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I thought that 972 is an Israeli magazine, would love if you could give sources for your claim.
“Islamic extremist”? This magazine was founded and is currently operated by Israeli jews. What are you on about?
are you sure you are not the trust worthy source?
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So you recognize Palestine as a country
Yes.
What does its territory entail? The West Bank currently occupied by Israel perhaps?
Dont know. Whatever you like mate.
There is no debate here as I can’t talk about it, if you want debate go to Reddit.
Mods will delete any answer that goes against what they will allow you to say, so stop trying to have a debate.Interesting. Have you considered going to Reddit where you are allowed to speak freely? What is preventing you from going to that platform which aligns with your views on genocide?
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Wow, you’re really contributing to the conversation here.
There can be no conversation when mods control what I can write to the degree that is happening here. This is not even what I believe, but it is the closest to what I believe I can write.
I would never believe that any country should be deleted.
What I believe was deleted by the mods because it talked about blaming the responsible ones, for me what I wrote here is much more extreme but I don’t make the rules I just follow them.
Edit: the mod deleted it even if they they said those word were okay, I used the exact same words they did, the guys just can’t take what they diss out, what a joke they are, they should be embarrassed by themselves.
Sucks, but Israel was attacked and have i my eyes had a very appropriate responded to that, if anyone attacked my country as Palenstine did Isreal i would not be happy until all the hostages was freed and the ones responsible was dead.
The Palenstine attack is just as bad as the Russian one.
