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Why are all these things thrown together with barely a few days notice?
They’re not, but word isn’t getting around fast enough so people find out late. Please help spread the word.
*I am not an organizer of this or any group. I’m just spreading info.
Why do these things on the weekdays and not on the weekends?
Your city hall/capital building is empty on the weekend
Won’t it be empty on Presidents Day, a fed holiday?
This one yes I suppose, I guess its more symbolic. But I do see this comment on every protest so thought I’d clarify
Labor strike on weekdays
Consumer purchasing strike on weekends
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I’m not American, but I see a bunch of these popping out of nowhere here in Lemmy, nowhere else and they barely get any attention.
People really need to get organized better. Get some big names behind them and then organize these things.
The “big names” are mostly okay with what’s happening.
Also, labor strike on a Saturday was being floated… Travel to state capitol on a weekday at noon? Agree with some others speculating that these are either baby steps of a desperate movement forming with growing pains (fine) or deliberate astroturfing bullshit meant to sap energy, sow confusion and make people disengage. With the calculated and frantic pace of the other heritage foundation/2025 moves to date, wouldn’t surprise me if this was the right.
Anyone have any back story on the organizers and money backing any of these recent protest efforts?
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While I appreciate the symbolism, the scheduled time is when most people outside of government have to work, while most people in government do not.
So we chose a time least convenient to protestors, to impress the people that aren’t even there.
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or that they’re living paycheck to paycheck and can’t afford to take the risk to their job or loss of food.
How long do you think there will be a job for you?
years, progress is fast, but not fast enough to replace rural jobs before those in the megacities.
Some people are going to be able to go march. Some people are not. Not every action will be suitable for every person.
If you’re a person who is not able to go march, there are still plenty of things you can do, even if it’s as small as making sure that you have space in your home for people who might need safety on short notice.
Nothing any of us do today, or tomorrow, or next week is going to make any difference all by itself. Instant gratification is simply off the table. Our cumulative efforts, great and small, over time, can be successful eventually.
Yes, because we are all convinced by people that are poor and homeless.
Money is power. I could give half my day’s wages to a worthy organization (if I could find one) and it would be infinitely more effective than losing my job.
I’ve started supporting the ACLU. They’ve been going after Trump like a terrier after a rat, so I feel I’m getting my money’s worth.
Oh yeah, because fascism is soooo easy to stand up to, that’s why no fascists have made it to power in any country ever.
It has to be called a ‘protest’ because general strikes are outlawed. The idea is a show of force to demonstrate the impact the protest could have if it continued. It isn’t a party, a presentation, or a performance. It is the decision to exert the economic influence of not working (but not striking for legal reasons).
Well, I’ll be damned.
Enjoy your 5th job later.
People need to eat now
Do they not need to eat after sitting out protests?
If some people go to protests they won’t be able to afford food. People who say these things have never lived hand to mouth to the extreme.
Lol! Keep dreaming.
Dreaming? Of what? Barley making enough to get by?
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Since this post appears to be getting a fair amount of attention, here’s a quick reminder:
- Do not gatekeep resistance
All efforts, large and small, are appropriate and necessary, and we’re not going to see any real change for a very long time.
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Anyone think these scattered recent attempts at protest might be astroturfed by the right and the listed website might be a trap to create a mailing list of targets for the right to monitor?
Need clarity on organizers and money behind these protests and if any established groups like DSA, Indivisible, ETC. are attached.
Edit: A bit more potentially from USA Today. So next question is if anyone knows Kay Evert directly and can speak to their legitimacy in the space? Trust, but verify - We don’t need to fight within our own movement, but we also don’t need to follow anyone blindly.
Pretty sure DSA isn’t involved, my local chapter also had the same concerns as it’s not super clear who is organizing it.
https://fiftyfifty.one/ is from r/50501 on reddit.
Of course, everything has risk, but I don’t personally find that group to be problematic.
Respectfully, your comment continues to say nothing about who is behind it and where the money comes from… WHAT group of people don’t you find to be problematic, and based on what? Who are the people that you don’t have a problem with?
You just linked a subreddit… on Lemmy?
50501 successfully organized the 50 state capitol protests the other day, and those got at least some news coverage. That was a good thing. If attending an event is unsuitable for you, there are other ways to resist. Me, I’m certainly already on more than one list, so being associated with a protest doesn’t change anything.
By comparison, I did some looking into a group called “American Opposition,” and my feeling about that is that it’s one small potatoes movie and TV actor trying to pull some sort of hustle.
In any event, I don’t believe you have to identify yourself to show up at a protest.
From the article you linked in your edit:
The 50501 moderators also partnered with Political Revolution, a PAC and volunteer-only activist organization founded out of the conclusion of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign in 2016.
The 50501 movement and Political Revolution said in a joint press release they are calling for the removal or resignation of President Donald Trump, investigations into his administration appointees including Elon Musk, the repeal of “oppressive” executive orders and the restoration of diversity, equity and inclusion frameworks.
They’ve been around since 2017. There’s surely a bunch more information about them than about 50501, and they’re “vouching” for 50501.
People have been picketing the Tesla dealership in San Francisco. That seems like a good place to target on Presidents Day, too.
Not only is he not a gorram king, far as I’m concerned, the orange turd no longer has any legitimacy even as president. What must a president elect do before they can have the authority of that office converted to them? Swear an oath. Violate that oath (and he very clearly has done so), and you abdicate the rights and privileges of the office. But, obviously, those with the ability to do something about it are lining up to kiss the ring instead. ಠ_ಠ
Anyway, that’s my thoughts on the matter; we all should start declaring loudly that since he has violated his oath, he loses the mantle of authority.
It’s not his ring they’re kissing.
And it’s not kissing either.
🤣
That. Was well played.
Nicely done! 👍
My mind goes straight to the gutter when faced with people who repulse me to my core.
So, just to be clear, we’re talking like a Ring Pop, right? Only it’s for his butthole.
I will not confirm nor deny this interpretation.
Does it really work that way though?
Presidents remain president while enough people recognise their presidency.
Unfortunately just a few months ago a majority of voters elected him with a mandate to do exactly what he’s doing.
Don’t slip into the trap of believing their way of spinning the facts!
No, only like a third of eligible voters chose fascism. And, truthfully, the real numbers are far less. What do you think the “little secret” they were congratulating themselves about was?! Between Trump praising how much Musk know about voting machines, as well as saying that’s why they took Pennsylvania - and then little X, in the fucking oval office, starts talking about his adventures with Dad in places “they weren’t supposed to be”… Oh, not to mention Musk making the odd public comment at the time about how if Trump doesn’t win, he wonders how much time he’ll be locked up for.
But anyway, sorry for the word vomit! I guess you could call me “triggered” these days 😝
The point is - if the 2/3 or more of us not radicalized find solidarity, his presidency ends.
The point is - if the 2/3 or more of us not radicalized find solidarity, his presidency ends
Better late than never, I guess, but the time for action and solidarity was before the election. Trump has never made a secret of his plans, and the world witnessed just how fractured America is with his re-election.
The first election of Trump, I believe, was a fuck you to the establishment. I would never have rallied behind the piece of shit, but I could at least understand what was happening. His re-election was a fuck you to the rest of the world, including Americans.
The world is looking at the general apathy of Americans and waiting for them to do something about it. It’s an uphill fight but Americans haven’t even gotten into the ring yet.
Is it weird that the whois information for that site has the registrant contact address in Iceland?
That’s just for the TLD .one fiftyfifty.one has its contact information private.
Thanks, that’s why I wanted to double check, I don’t know a whole lot about how website registration related stuff works.
Harder for the US government to take it down I suppose?
Protest you say?
Remember when they beat the shit out of protesters, shot or jailed them and slapped insane charges on them? Simply because they protested genocide? O how we miss those days, such a democracy it was.
Well when shit eventually boils over, at least we can point back and say, “we tried to ask nicely.”
Is there a simple list of demands?
EVERY WORKER A MEMBER OF THE BOARD
This sounds like a terrible idea honestly. Also not within the realm of possibility.
Somehow I’m getting the sense that your very narrow view of the “realm of possibility” doesn’t match, you know, the reality of things.
Sure ok. When every employee begins a board member I’ll know I was wrong.
Someone already linked you to the concept. Maybe try this thing called “reading” sometime before this thing you do called “babbling”.
The links are all about employee share holdings and elected representatives. There are no links regarding employee board membership, probably because it’s an absurdity. One of us really does need to do some reading.
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The horse is dead. Leave it.
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Aren’t there some Australians for you to discourage?
In sorry you find my views discouraging.
If your demands can’t withstand some healthy criticism on lemmy then you’re destined for failure.
Criticism is fine when paired with suggestions. Do you have any of the latter?
Works great in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codetermination_in_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitbestimmungsgesetz
Also, massive, succesful, worker-owned co-ops like Mondragon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragón
But yeah, go with whatever your uninformed gut says.
I can’t be bothered reading every link.
The first one describes employees electing board members, which is not the same as being a board member.
Do you really believe that mandatory representation like this is a possible outcome of these protests? I think you’d need overwhelming public support to make it mandatory.
yeah, maybe read the links. Why the fuck would I bother addressing anything you ask in your comment if you straight up refuse to even try to understand the point I made?
Fuck off.
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The comment I replied to suggests making every employee a board member. That’s not the same as an employee owned company. You might want to do some research.
The funny part about you arguing the validity of this is that it’s a prominent quote from Disco Elysium.
The point being that it’s an impossible demand meant to shut down any negotiations to seize the means of production for the union.
The people explaining every other worker owned structure are substantially more valid than you pointing back at my silly strawman tho.
Pizza for some, small American flags for others!
typography note: you should say “not” and follow with strikethrough. they both do the same thing and together they imply the opposite, like you wanted to say “not we the billionaires” and changed your mind. now the message says “we the people not”.
It made sense to me as is
Nice meme!
Vive la résistance!
Is there any evidence this has happened? Looking at any news source at all.
Today is the 16th.
No there’s not.
Still, no one cares.
Not yet.
Thanks, not currently in the country and the time zone has me confused.
It’s not “we the people”. It’s “we the USAians”. That kind of mindless nationalism is how we got here (genocide, refugee cleansing, etc). It’s a source of fascism, not a solution.
I don’t understand your comment. Are you saying that the phrase “we the people” is nationalist? If so, I’d disagree. It’s the first few words of the preamble to the constitution. It would be strange if the constitution didn’t specifically refer to the United States citizens. “We the people” isn’t saying “USA first,” it’s a callback to the ideal that every American citizen should be equal, without kings, as other similar documents defining the government of monarchies would be under some monarch’s authority, not “the people.” Whether that ideal has been upheld or not is a different conversation entirely, but the phrase itself as a rejection of monarchy and oligarchy is a good message to repeat against Trump and Elon.
The exact line of the preamble of The United States Constitution is “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,…”
It’s a direct allusion to the United States’ foundational document, and rephrasing that allusion does not make it less nationalist.
It’s also a document which many US citizens strongly identify with, and they are invoking that phrase explicitly to gain rapoire and support from those US citizens. Rephrasing “We the People” would only dilute that virtue signal and lower its efficacy.
