If it escapes under Trump’s leadership can we call it the trump virus? Please?
Trump virus 2
Bird flu boogaloo
Morbus Maga.
The constant edging with bird flu mania is going to make people not pay attention when it actually pops off.
The problem is that the CDC isn’t getting to say anything right now, so we can assume that the moment they get to talk about it, the stupidest people you know are going to go “woah this was really sudden! They clearly made it in a lab!”
That’s actually a really good counter point that I hadn’t thought of.
Thank you, I’ve spent a lot of time giving myself brain damage so I can understand the perspective of conservatives.
Huff a lot of glue or paint, maybe ram a crayon or two in your brain. Then you might get close to understanding.
This is it popping off. We’ve already lost a huge portion of chickens in the US. We’re seeing dozens of cases in humans. And it’s in cows too. The only reason it doesn’t feel like a big deal is because we as a nation aren’t doing anything about it yet, only individual farms are. Same way COVID went from “is this a big deal?” to “oh fuck shut everything down”.
The big event will be someone with regular human flu getting bird flu, giving the virus opportunities to swap DNA segments. If it gets the transmissibility of our standard influenza and the lethality of bird flu, it’ll be a rough six months to a year before we have vaccines for it as it rips through our population.
Especially considering flu vaccines are made with eggs, and this disease is currently thoroughly decimating our egg producing livestock.
The lethality is 52%. If it rips through the population, we’re looking at total collapse well before the vaccine is available.
Highly dependent on the degree to which it’s contagious. But you’re right, especially considering we’re looking at one of the worst flu seasons in more than a decade currently. If all flu cases were 50% lethal that’d be 10-15 million deaths.
If we just stop testing it will go away like magic. Did you learn nothing from Covid?
The little boy who called bird flu, but I think the call here is that it is difficult to feel safe behind the idea that it does not cross the species barrier when you have bird flu in cows.
Unfortunately people will just think “Hey I’ve seen this bird flu in the news and it didn’t seem bad.” Then they ignore all virologist recommendations and we have a second pandemic.
Too little information is as bad as too much, it is a difficult balance. The problem with information dissemination last time was not oversaturation but that people latched onto ridiculous conspiracy narratives and that derives from lack of basic education not too much news.
And this time there will be zero investment in stopping it spreading when it starts killing people
When would you like to be alarmed? For me it was when it jumped to mammals.
Corona 2 electric boogaloo here we come!
This would be much worse than COVID. Bird flu is far more deadly.
in the beginning yes, but as the virus mutates, the variant that spreads quicker will also be less deadly. like with covid too. not that it isn’t dangerous now, but it was far deadlier in the early stages.
in a country that could start acting against this virus right now with RNA vaccine research has probably closed down all those facilities
If we could get enough people to stop eating animal products at the same time, it would simultaneously lower their personal risks of infection, the risks of another pandemic, and it could hit the animal ag industries hard - who are some of the largest funders of the gop.
I love the enthusiasm but the movement would immediately be labelled as woke and a lot of people would start eating more animals just to “own the libs”
The people who would do that would be putting themselves at greater risk when the next pandemic does break out. That’s their problem - especially if they’ve been informed on everything they can do to help and protect themselves.
That’s their problem
Unfortunately, with how pandemics work, it would be everyone’s problem.
It already is, and they’re already speedrunning us into the next one. All the more reason to focus on protecting who we can, and who is willing to not be an active harm.
Nah, we just need to lean into their toxic male fragility. Remind them it’s super gay to have some animal’s meat in their mouth. So juicy it slides right down your throat. Yeah, you enjoy that beef on your tongue, you slut?
If we really pushed that message, Joe Rogan would be vegan within a week.
In the last pandemic, we couldn’t get people to wear a mask sometimes without them losing their shit.
Should we have all stopped wearing masks because some people refused to? Should we all be anti-vacc because some people are?
If you’re so constantly focused on your perceived enemies that you fill your time and mental energy with trying to tear them down, then yeah, you’re going to lose sight of what you’re reaching for in the first place. Change yourself first, and as you live by your own word, your example in and of itself has at least some automatic impact on changing others - even if those changes are gradual and take time.
Don’t lose sight of the fact that even a single person changing their diet will have less risk of death because of that.
I’ve been doing my part of drinking stuff with oat milk and eating a plant based diet
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Really? Cause if nothing else, every dollar you spend on animal products may as well be a direct donation to the republican party. And environmental targets? Good luck with that if you support meat and dairy.
Sorry, but animal consumption and commodification is so thoroughly embedded in the conservative identity, that if you’re going to be anti-vegan, you may as well start wearing this shirt.
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It sounds like you can’t really imagine a world where there exists more than two kinds of people. Also saying you can’t get protein on plants in 2025? Maybe before wasting your time on pointless debates, you should spend even a modicum of time getting basic facts right.
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Ironic, considering that moral crusade for animals entails lifestyle changes that are one of the most beneficial things a person can do for them self, as well as others, other animals, and the planet.
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No coincidences, trump will always bring disease and ruin. You keep welcoming the fox back into the henhouse, America.
Between this and Gaza (and everything else), I really honestly don’t think we have seen a person in all of human history who checks more boxes of being the antichrist.
Like fuck, he literally brings pestilence and disease with him.
The mask thing is going to be so funny again… I guess … ughhhhhhhhhhhh. Subscribe to the WHO if you haven’t already
I’d be more than willing to build special warehouses for the unvaccinated manned by doctors and midwives with tons of knowledge about holistic medicine and essential oils, get them out of real hospitals
There is also a reputed new cat-to/from-human transmission vector for H5N1, which was briefly noted in a CDC report last week before being redacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/cdc-bird-flu-cats-people.html . NYT article may be paywalled, but details can be found in other media sources as well.
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Yes, and I’ve heard people say “It’ll be OK; the strain that goes pandemic won’t be as lethal as the current strains.” There’s some truth in this, that extremely deadly viruses will tend to burn themselves out by killing their hosts so not spread so widely. So perhaps bird flu transmitted from person to person would not sustain the extremely high death rates this type of flu has shown in people in the past. But as the 1918 flu and even the COVID pandemic show, there’s a lot of wiggle room for a virus between utterly deadly and utterly harmless, and even something that’s far from the worst can still go pandemic and cause huge amounts of death, disruption and misery.
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