A good run? 2 years of actually peace since the us existenz is your benchmark for a good run?
Amerikkka never had real democracy
“unelected”
he got up to stage and said he bought the fascist candidate. lots of people saw that and said “that’s OK, I’ll still vote red” and even more people saw that and said “that’s OK, I’ll still not vote”. around 160 million people saw this and were OK with it. yeah he wasn’t elected, but the “dictator on day one” was.
This right here.
They had a website for two years with a detailed plan. Project 2025 was widely known an people either voted for it or stayed at home. The dildo of consequences, as they say…
Democracy
Looks inside
Constitution written exclusively to protect monopoly business interests and prevent a monarchy
seems legit lol
Yeah I’m sure that giving rights to everyone (amendments are part of the Constitution!) was purely for business interests …
Did we all forget the elected one put the unelected one in power?
Lol the democracy part didn’t even start until 1965.
Even then, its more like Democracy Lite™.
Capitalism’s natural and unavoidable end stage.
I like to blame capitalism for everything, too, but this has nothing to do with capitalism. Just the US Democracy not being a Democracy
Capitalism worsens the principal agent problem of representative democracy because it’s trivial to bribe representatives, especially now.
Ah yes the world richest man and a billionaire president have no financial motives for overthrowing the US gov. Definitely not the fault of the greedy capitalist system
By world richest man you mean Putin or Bin Salman?
Pick one it’ll probably be correct anyway
Yes, but a functioning democratic system does not allow that.
Any power tripping person could overthrow a country for different reasons (like Hitler for example)
Capitalism encourages the break down of the democratic system.
Where communism never had any democracy to start with.
Thats because the US toppled every Democratic attempt at communism and socialism with staged coups and assassinations.
And why’s that folks? That’s right! The profit motive!
Yes, the US is clearly to blame for the Stasi.
Unbridled capitalism.
No, just capitalism is correct. Unbridled or not, the profit incentive and private ownership over the means of production, both of which are intrinsic to a capitalist economic structure, still exist and contribute to systemic oppression.
The richest people being the oligarchs has nothing to do with capitalism?
Harris actually got more votes than Biden in most of the key swing states. Can we stop this narrative of blaming anyone other than the tens of millions that actually picked Trump?
Nope. Because I do blame the third party / uncommitted crowd for sowing division, doubt, and getting in the way. We were in a burning building, and those groups were blocking the fire exits.
You’re a sucker, blame anyone except the billionaires who have bought democrats and repubs alike to get us here. If you can look at the fact that we produce enough to feed 10 billion people yet people still starve, or that there is £36 TRILLION in offshore tax havens as of 2016 but can’t afford basic needs for people, but it’s people who voted against genocide is the problem?
If everyone of them voted for Harris, she would have still lost. The only “voting bloc” if you can call it that matters was the non-voters, and you get them interested by offering policies that voters find good.
Harris wasn’t doing that. She said “I won’t pivot from Biden” and talked about having Republicans in her cabinet. Harris was showing off how she got the Cheney family on her side, the political family who helped orchestrate the war on terror.
If you’re unsure, you see a Democrat trying to be a Republican, and you see a Republican. One is clearly better than the other in that Harris wasn’t going to instantly install autocrats like Musk.
That was my default answer, “I dont like Harris in everything, but I hate Trump. She can be talked to and reasoned with. Trump only listens to ass-kissers and money. I value my tongue more than I have money.”
But for people who are focused on just trying to survive paycheck the paycheck, they don’t have time to see that. Especially since voting days aren’t time off for most Americans. You have to work to put food on the table, or spend time waiting in line to vote.
I’m thankful I can get mail in ballots a month before the election. I can look at my local elections, my statewide referendums, and check if I agree and who’s paid for the advertising. Most states don’t have that “luxury”.
I do blame them for not voting if they had an easy way of voting. Mail in, early voting on a weekend, requesting time off to vote. I don’t blame them for seeing that one party is trying to act like the other party from 2004 that became the fascist party in 2016.
The stick was actually running a soft right democrat to combat a far right candidate, the gag is blaming voters.
The stick was not seeing (or even acknowledging the existence of) the bigger picture.
Well, the bigger picture in my comment is that the Democratic party will rip their nose off if it means not running a progressive candidate willing to stand firm in their progressive stances, and that choice between a soft right candidate and a far right candidate is like choosing between a piece of chocolate or the whole bar. What bigger picture are you referring to?
[Gestures vaguely at goddamned everything] for starters.
She might not give us all ponies and blowjobs, but literally none of this dystopian nightmare would be happening under Harris.
I voted for Harris, but I didn’t like voting for Harris, as she represented the incrementalism that got us here in the first place.
The only reasons I voted for Harris was because she picked Tim Walz as her VP pick (who is a legit social democrat, even though I am further left than that) and because I wanted to stave off fascism for another 4 years.
I also believe that voter shaming is a great way of pushing people away from your idiology into the hands of the enemy’s idiology, as we have seen play out many, many times, especially over the past few election cycles post-social media.
Sure. But that’s not going to change the fact that she fucking lost because she was a terrible candidate for Trump and ran a Republican campaign. The voters are not responsible when both parties coronate their candidate in back rooms.
Yes the voters are responsible!
It’s called making the most intelligent choice, seeing the bigger picture, and doing harm reduction. I am beyond sick of the blame shifting being done to justify people not taking this election seriously .
The threat of Trump 2.0 was apparent and not even remotely a secret. if people didn’t see that or take that seriously, it is their fault.
Why is the democratic party not at fault for “not making the most intelligent choice”. You act like harris was set in stone. And that her stance on israel had to be set in stone. Or any of the other terrible policy and campaign choices that were made by the dems. The threat of trump 2.0 was apparent and not even remotely a secret. If the democrats didnt see that or take it seriously its their fault.
The problem is, unless you’re very wealthy, it’s obvious the current system we’re living under strips workers of their material needs. It’s easy as a populist to say, “I’m going to smash this system” and get a bunch of people who desperately need a way out to vote for you.
Harris unfortunately, and this is systematic with the DNC, is tied to the material interests of the capital class. There was only scolding but no vision of a materially beneficial future for Americans.
No talks of universal healthcare, universal pre k or going after big business. Hell, she was going to continue to genocide Palestinians.
I voted for her, but we’ve been fucked by both parties since I’ve been born. I want, nay need a leftist candidate who will break the system for us but I haven’t seen one yet.
Voters carry blame, but that does not make them responsible. The responsibility lies with the political parties.
Ah yes, the “everything is just fine just look at this graph” picture
And before anyone says anything: I voted for Harris. Just like I voted for Biden and Clinton and Obama and Obama and Kerry and Gore. The only ones of those who actually got into office were the ones telling us things would change.
Don’t be mad that they ran a shitty campaign to convince a populous with a sixth grade reading level and defunded civics classes to figure out how to vote.
not pictured (cliff they are still going to jump off)
Got one
Got one what? I voted.
Oh my God shut the fuck up unless fewer people voted Dem in swing states… which they didn’t. Stop refusing to address your addiction to moderation.
People who believe in 250 years of democracy enable systemic racism, patriarchy, etc.
Libs, please grow up.
It was deeply flawed but it was a democracy nevertheless. It’s now a full authoritarian regime and you’ll get to realize what you’ve lost soon enough.
Nothing I wasn’t already losing through the systemic oppression that is the capitalist system and a hierarchical State that exists to maintains it.
What? I’m gonna be poor and marginalized under a different system? Okay. Changes nothing for me. I’m still poor and struggling to maintain housing and eat a proper meal every day.
The only people losing anything are the middle class who still think that the system isn’t already exploiting them and fail to understand that what is happening is the inevitable conclusion to the society we built.
This is so god damn egocentric, I hope you’re not more than 14. Tell me you’re a privilege ass without telling me you’re a privilege ass.
You will loose nothing? Good for you because:
- Trans people lost the right to exist.
- Indigenous people have been made invisible again
- Immigrants are deported into camps
- Women lost control over their own bodies
- Minorities lost their rights
- Groenland lost it’s security
- Canada has it independence theaten.
- The pollution level will rise 10x faster all over the world.
- 1000x more examples like this
That’s not even 1 month in. You want to play the victim, just wait to see when you’ll become one for real.
Yes capitalism is cruel and unfair system. But the US just blew up any chance they had to ever replace it by something better or simply to make it a little less unfair. Your country will be rule by fascist dictators for decades because of childish, selfish little people like you who are incapable of intellectual nuance.
Democracy is when you prohibit everybody but voting except rich white slave owners!
Reminder that our founding fathers broke off because of “taxation without representation” but then denied representation for most Americans.
Women? “No say.” Black people? “Wait those are people?” Native Americans? “Sure they were here first but I have money.” Immigrants? “Why would I support new comers to this land my family has been here for 30 years!”
We didn’t even used to vote for our senators, they were voted in by the state legislator, which you could vote for if your state allowed your kind to vote, but most places only allowed for certain people to vote.
America pretends it was a democracy, when Musk and Trump just show it was all a show and it could be toppled over at any point. Most of the laws in place for offices of power were just codes of ethics with no punishment for violation. If you did break a law, the president has never really been checked, so just break more as they figure out what to do.
we had a good run
Did you, though?
The rich guys did, it’s even getting better for them.
Points at SCOTUS. Electoral College. Winner-Takes-All underrepresentation. 100 years legal slavery, 100 years racial segregation. 150 years gendered voting rights.
How cute, OP thinks the US has been a democracy for the last 250 years.
democracy
Looks inside
oligarchy
And completely broken and idiotic and easily manipulated voting system.
It’s almost as though the oligarchs could afford the best lawyers and judges to write up “democratic” laws that favor them, would certainly explain everything dems/repubs have been working together to do for 50+ years while boomers are all like “Nothing to see here, too busy focusing on myself.”
The average age of an empire is 250 years, now were going to find out what’s going to replace it.
Well, not some of us I’m sure.
The Forever Purge™
I’ll be polite. That’s not an accurate repository of those 250 years; the second part us alright.
