cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25133597

Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol

For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz

You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

There’s much more around as well!

Obligatory, fuck Spez

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      This seems like an odd message considering that Lemmy, as software, is being praised here; and what is being criticized are instances wherein the admins enforce apologism for authoritarian regimes.

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      Yeah I’m a bit lost on why someone’s instance automatically = their entire identity. Wouldn’t that means 1) technically we are all tankies on a tankie platform and 2) I need to start learning Finnish?

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        Yeah I randomly picked an instance when I created this account around a year ago, and these days I see people comment things like “lol of course you’re from .ml”.

        I don’t even know what’s the difference between instances. And it’s not like we were given a whole lot of explanation when picking one.

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        Lemmy.ml admins remove content critical of the CCP, and similar things. The admins of most other instances don’t do that shit.

        Grad is much the same, while Hexbear is just 4chan for Stalinists.

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          No I know, but I’m not interacting with the admins of .ml, and I haven’t really seen anything from the average .ml user that isn’t your run of the mill leftist talking points I see all over Lemmy. They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.

          I have no idea what grad and hexbear are, I’ve never seen those instances and I’m assuming my admin already defederated from them. They’re pretty reasonable in that regard.

          Maybe I should learn Finnish in their honour…

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            They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.

            I mean, unless you frequent .ml communities, they can’t censor or ban you.

            That’s the thing though. Those .ml communities end up quietly curated to curb any criticism of the admins’ favorite authoritarians. Highlighting this fact is necessary, and participating in .ml communities is undesirable at best; those who still wish to do so should at least be informed as to what goes on.

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              Oh I see what you’re saying. I agree about the communities, but I was speaking more about the users from .ml getting blasted in communities outside .ml simply because they are from that instance (like in this thread).

              If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml? They’re not in the censored community, we’re not in the censored community, who cares what the .ml admin are doing?

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                If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml?

                Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization. Not only that, but when grad and Hexbear were defederated by many instances, many users on Grad and Hexbear created accounts on .ml for the explicit purpose of continuing the authoritarian apologia they so enjoyed in the exact places that told them they weren’t welcomed. At some point, pattern recognition sets in, and it’s not inherently wrong for it to do so.

                I don’t think every .ml user is an authoritarian. But if I see someone making authoritarian apologia, I’d say a good 4/5s of the time, it’s someone from .ml.

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                  Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization.

                  Sure, but only if they’re solely in those echo chambers, which if they’re posting in .world, they clearly aren’t. And any ones who do are told off because of the content of their posts, not their home servers.

                  I see quite a few inflammatory posters from .world and .ee (especially of the American exceptionalism, anti-Palestine, and more recently anti-Canadian (🤭) varieties) but I don’t automatically assume every single person on those servers hold those values. In fact, I think 9/10 comments I see you post specifically, PugJ, I agree with.

                  I had no idea about the Hexbear/lemmygrad lore though, I’ll definitely keep that in mind going forward.

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    Yes, welcome redditors to .world, which is trying to model itself as reddit 2.

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      It’s a bit like OSRS for reddit - an attempt to revive the reddit we all have very rose-tinted memories of. Unfortunately we seem to have forgotten about the the rampant casual misogyny, tribalism, moderator political infighting, that the 2007 XP rates were actually abysmally implemented and desperately needed retooling (and that deeply awkward “ron paul” phase reddit went through…)

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    If you want nothing farther left than drumpf memes, and also like being a little bit bigoted towards Muslims, then Lemmy.world is gonna be a nice cozy home for you.

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      Lemmy.ml is the original instance and the dev instance. I joined it because there was literally no alternative at the time. It’s pretty annoying being called a tankie left and right because of this

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        Same as a fellow code enthusiast, the dev instance seemed like a good choice. But no, do not pass go, straight to tankie jail apparently.

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      It’s pretty insane that choosing the default instance is seen as being indicative of your politics

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    The tankie triad

    making a bunch of forums seem so dark and mysterious

    have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls

    catgirl-sorry

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      I will never understand how you would defend an instance that is not only deep in genocide denial and praise of authoritarian regimes.

      But also one whose head admin (and main Lemmy dev unfortunately) is a transphobe

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          I am transfixed by their new obsession with women’s sports.

          Remember when the WNBA was a punchline on Futurama? Where were these assholes then?

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            Those assholes don’t like women’s sports, they only use it as a stick to hurt those who are different from them.

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      It’s way more fun to pretend hexbear and .ml are super dark and scary than to admit what they mostly actually are: leftist memes and shit posting.

      Notice Beehaw’s not on the “good” list anymore? Wonder why they’re not on there…

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        Notice Beehaw’s not on the “good” list anymore? Wonder why they’re not on there…

        As far as I understood at the time, Beehaw cut themselves off from just about everyone else in the fediverse. If they want to make that choice I respect their position but its sending the message they’re not interested in interacting with most others. If someone tells you to go away and they don’t want to talk to you, I’m not going to chase them and try and change their mind. I’m going to let them go do whatever they want to do and I’ll do my own thing with most everyone else.

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        I think Beehaw isn’t on the good list here because the account that shared the meme is on Lemmy World which isn’t federated with Beehaw.

        So it’s a lack of knowledge of the users that left it off not any nefarious intent.

        But that’s my 2 cents.

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          I thought Beehaw defederated from everyone else during the first mass reddit migration in 2023. It’s not surprising not a lot of people know about them.

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              Ya know what, I just looked at their instance page for the first time and their community rules show that they appear to have their head on straight and are setting good policy. I’ll have to try to get an account there and see what I’ve been missing.

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                They really are a community of nice people trying to protect their peace, as far as I’ve seen. They just defederated from instances with open registration due to influx of trolls, and a lot of users from those groups got offended over it. It was minor drama, but nothing offensive. It’s a bit sad that they’re still being vilified over it.

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            Not us 🫶 I enjoy the Beehaw communities I subscribe to

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          Beehaw is like the Elks Lodge of the Lemmyverse. From the outside they look exclusive, mysterious, and enticing. Inside, there’s just a few drunk guys singing karaoke.

          At least that’s my assumption. They wouldn’t let me in because I refused to write a paragraph about why I wanted to join an instance that I knew virtually nothing about. Even the Elks Lodge wasn’t that picky.

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          This is why I’m glad I’m on lemme.ee, and I have the option to choose for myself as they don’t really defederate any of the main instances.

          As far as it goes, I’m just here for good memes and good conversation. Anytime someone goes into tankie territory, I just go to another thread. Live and let live, even if I disagree (until someone verges into nazi territory).

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          I knew of Beehaw, but they got left off mostly because last I heard they were extremely selective on who they federated with.

          My personal opinion of Beehaw is, I have none unlike The Tankie Triad where i’ve experienced and seen the games they play. Then again, I think BH does fed with them, so if they’re so selective to do that…

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        It’s way more fun to pretend hexbear and .ml are super dark and scary than to admit what they mostly actually are: leftist memes and shit posting.

        “Ha ha, we’re just having a little bit of fun denying the Uyghur genocide, praising North Korea, and saying Ukrainians deserve to be massacred 😊”

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          And yet, on other Lemmy instances like world, people will fight to the bitter end defending Joe Biden’s policy of enabling Israel. And if you dare suggest Kamala Harris was also going to keep supporting Israel, you’ll be crucified lmao.

          I guess genocide is okay if it’s backed by a Western power (but only if a democrat is in charge).

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            Nah, fuck Biden’s and Harris’s handling of the situation. It was a disaster and needs to be called what it is.

            But I think what you are suggesting is a disingenuous interpretation of what most people were saying during the US election. No one was suggesting that Biden/Harris were good for Palestine. Only that Trump would be much, much worse. And I feel like the events of the past few weeks have validated that fear, however horrifying that is to type out.

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              You’re not looking forward to a beachfront vacation, sleeping over the skeletons of dead little kids that we all helped pay to murder? What’s wrong with you?

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            I personally have seen nobody defending Biden’s enabling of Israel, I have seen a bunch of people choosing the lesser of two evils and getting chastised over it as if there was a magical third option (abstaining just enables trump stfu)

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      have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls

      Who play apologist for genocide and fascism.

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    No mention of dbzer0. com anywhere in the meme or text? To any newcomers, if you wouldn’t download a car then you don’t need to know about that instance.

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      Lol I made the original meme and text, I kinda just brain dumped the instances from the top of my head, the hope was others would chime in with their fav instances/comms and add to the list

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      It must be the chunk of land they’re sitting on. Just can’t see it because the full text can’t be read in its entirety from that close up.

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      Yea who cares about those little human rights violations and genocides the CCP does along the way, just sweep those under the rug!

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          I’ve met people in reality who feel the same way as you, and I wanted to ask you something:

          Wonder if our media that is largely Republican controlled and owned by Western billionaires could maybe have some anti-CCP bias

          Why does that mean that China is good? Like I understand that specific things western media says could be wrong, but we have a hell of a lot of proof about what they’ve done. So what I don’t get is, sure media is owned by billionaires and corrupt, but why does that mean that the exact opposite is what’s true? Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were ‘good.’ So why does it apply here?

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            Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were ‘good.’

            I mean, before Methler’s Operation Barbarossa, they were happily dividing the world up between themselves.

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      Everyone knows those rules don’t apply when youre dunking on the instances with opinions outside of the US state department’s approved overton window.

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    Oh hey this looks familiar LMAO

    Before the tankies come in here

    Their calls of unity and accusations of division are false, they’re Authoritarian “leftists” who deny anything bad of the CCP, Russia and NK from human rights violations to genocides and any evidence of said acts is nothing but “CIA/Western propaganda”

    Tankies are not socialists, they’re not communists, they’re authoritarians, full stop.