Look, a self-professed Nazi that goes around pushing his views, now is in charge of The United States Treasury which is involved in EVERY expenditure and Penny the US spends.
A Nazi, is now in a ridiculously powerful position to affect every thing the USA does domestically, and internationally, and is supported by the President.
THIS is “America”?
Your country is FUCKING OVER, because ‘Americans’ let this happen.
But, …as long as you all have Tik Tok and FB, right?
What we have is a wildly dysfunctional federal government, that is coming apart at the seams because it turns out whatever stability we used to have was actually just held together with the scotch tape of good intentions and gentlemanly agreements rather than actual rules. All three branches are entirely captured by oligarchs that have no reverence for democracy, the constitution, or the people of this nation. The media has no incentive to educate the populace and the mob is slobbering with manufactured fear, driving them to shoot themselves in the dick over and over and over again. All of this is sitting on top of the stumbling momentum of unfathomable military capacity that renders the rest of the world impotent to stand in opposition. There’s no consistent rule of law, and the emerging feudal class is building bunkers.
i totally agree, but not sure you can call it a coup if you voted for it
The Nazis were voted into power too. And then destroyed the state from within. Call it what you like, but the parallels are very obvious.
Actually they weren’t. Even at the height of their popularity the Nazis ‘only’ got 39% of the vote. They never had a majority. The reason Hitler got to power was, shocker: the conservatives handed it to him by making him chancellor. They rather worked with fascists than socialists and communists. This is not to say that they liked Hitler, but they figured they could appease him and control him somehow. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it? All these people who would ‘never support democrats’ and thereby gave the keys to the kingdom to Donald fucking Trump.
Well, anyway, they couldn’t control him. When Hitler became chancellor the first thing he did was dissolve the Reichstag and pass the Enabling Act, which gave him the power to pass laws by decree (in stead of needing to go through parliament).
Well that was the beginning of the end. In quick succession he removed freedom of the press; he used the Reichstag fire as a reason to suspend the constitution, with the Reichstag Fire Decree, thus taking away civil rights: No more habeas corpus, no more freedom of assembly, no more freedom of expression, no more legal limits on house searches, confiscations, etc. He made unions illegal, he stripped German Jews of their citizenships, he banned all political parties except his own, the list goes on and on.
All of this was done legally. He used to law to turn a relatively progressive republic into a genocidal regime. It can absolutely happen again and it can absolutely happen in the U.S. - we are seeing it happen in real time.
Reminded of one of the few times I liked Keith Olberman: https://youtu.be/PKZKETizybw
“We would call it a coup, but we’re afraid.”
Can any of these people do anything? It’s insane. There’s a lot of talk, but no one is stopping anything, or (seemingly) trying.
There’s only so much that words can do.
And what will you do about it? Nothing but whine as usual?
WE’RE TALKING THOUGH! TALKING! EVEN!
The other day when the new DNC guy got elected and gave his stupid speech where he made it clear that their plan is to keep talking angrily and hope that it works this time, I’ve just started calling them The Puppet Party.
How do we go about making a new one?
The first step is to stop pretending like the old one still works. It seems convenient that there’s still a skeleton of a functional party there to rebuild from, but it’s so thoroughly poisoned that it’s probably better to abandon it and start fresh.
I’d lean towards one of the existing parties (not including the two main here, and DEFINITELY NOT THE GREEN PARTY), because getting on the ballot has requirements depending on the state.
Unfortunately, the options mostly suck. If you want left, the largest is technically the green party, but going back to my previous comment, the green party is completely captured garbage. At no point since its founding has it behaved like anything but a spoiler party. Don’t waste the time here.
Next up in terms of size would be the Working Families Party, which has ballot access in 3 states. To get around this, they caucus with the Democrats like the Vermont Progressive Party (Bernie). You can learn more about them here:
And of course wikipedia and the like as well. Unlike the green party, they actually campaign at the state and federal level and get people in - for example, Rashia Tlaib. To me, the WFP presents the most viable strategy, since they are on the larger side, have some degree of ballot access, and coordinate with the democrats to run WFP candidates - which, understandably will bother some, but presents an opportunity (imo) to take people from known Dem to knowing WFP, and still pushing the same WFP candidates. Getting information out to people is an uphill battle, so using a known party is an advantage here, and presents the opportunity to take over.
The FEC will recognize a new party when they raise / spend money over thresholds with a federal election, and it is the FEC which determines if they have national committee status. The FEC doesn’t need to be involved for state or local elections, but must be brought in for any federal elections.
State/local will have different requirements, but its primarily going to be around fund raising and signatures. You need to show that you’ve got enough support to matter to gain ballot access. Some states allow “designations”, where its not a recognized party, but you can list the association all the same, and then its just getting enough signatures to get on the ballot in that location.
Generally speaking, an individual’s ballot access is from:
- Being nominated by a state-recognized party
- Independent by petition (getting signatures)
- Running as a write in candidate
Running as a write-in can work for local, but will be insanely hard at the state level and near impossible at the federal level. Independent (and maybe with a designation) is the next jump up and only requires signatures, and then the state-recognized party would generally mean you’ve gotten FEC approval at that point.
Start local, work your way up. Hope this helps answer, its obviously much more than a (somewhat quick) comment here…
Edited to add: Obviously there are other parties, such as the Libertarian Party, that are larger than WFP. I excluded the centrists and right-wing parties, because, you know, thats the trash we have currently.
You have to take down the entire dictatorship first.
Being a trained software engineer, no matter how good doesn’t make you an expert in finance, law, economics or anything else related to what they have their hands in.
Yeah I was thinking the same and haven’t seen anyone else point this out. How the fuck is it possible for these schmucks to grasp the mechanics of something so large in just a few days with no prior training or experience. It’s pure insanity.
They’re only concerned with grinding it to a halt. Then they can point to a private sector solution that can be contracted in.
I think their plan is much worse than that as they have unchecked power. This is more than just a grift to divert some government funds into the private sector.
So you had a chat about a bad thing. Now what? Keep talking? Yeah, keep talking. That’ll change things.
Sure, but we can’t ever stop talking about it either. We need more, too. But we need to keep making people aware. Keep it in the news, keep it in public discourse.
Is it a coup if the president is allowing it and encouraging it to happen?
Sure. President Musk is 100% behind this coup.
See autocoup.
Although… I wonder if Trump’s followers could be convinced that Musk is controlling him with one of his NeuraLink chips?
What would you connect it to?
Are you implying that a president cannot be part of a coup?
Yes
“Would”???
Holy fuck what happened to his eyebrows.
I mean everyone is getting exactly what they voted for so what is the big problem?
The Demmings are grumpy.
You’re here participating on Lemmy. Doesn’t that make you a “Demming” too?
Democrats are right-wing, so… no?
So you’re the lone exception?
