What
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Fuck?
By supporting they mean what? Calling the kid the name they want to be called by?
They don’t necessarily need to explicitly teach gender and racial studies, whatever. But don’t tell my kids’ teachers they can’t be courteous to the kids. The kids don’t care one bit when someone who was a girl comes back saying they are a boy, they are nonchalant as fuck about it.
You have lost this round, conservatives. The generation who will raise the next generation is already grown up with more reasonable teaching and parents who model tolerance, there are too many of us for you to be able to control us.
Go back to your lairs and work on some other evil plan.
They already made women second class citizens. Now they’re moving on to vulnerable minorities.
Sound like any other examples from history?
I’d say the alarms have started going off, but they’ve been going off for quite some time now. Deaf and dumb Americans as a whole can’t hear them though.
“No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”
Gotta wonder if he’s manufacturing reality or if he’s also caught up in a manufactured reality.
It’s definitely both.
He’s a conman by nature, not by intelligence.
He inherently knows he has to manufacture lies to get what he wants, but he’s very clearly not an actually intelligent person and you can clearly tell sometimes that he’s 100% bought into some conspiracy theories, the same way any dumb person would. The guy’s brain is mostly fried, but the conman in his nature is still there. Will be until he’s 6 feet under.
I can’t believe there’s a single person who believes that children are being snuck into hospitals to just have a quick 20,000 dollar surgery that takes months to fully recover from during lunch and sneaking them home without anyone noticing
Let’s play the “replace the group with jews and see if they sound like a Nazi”
Trump tells DOJ to proescute teachers who unlawfully support jewish students.
Eyup
Fascism isn’t coming.
It’s already here.
Hey acceleratiionists and people who Harris “wasn’t good enough” for, remember that you could’ve helped stop this shit before it even happened. Now people are going to suffer and die under this regime that you helped bring to power
There’re the same people. Flexing for the algorithm, just different ones.
Those people are far too stupid to grasp the mistake they made.
Ignorance truly is bliss.
Until you’re thrown in an oven.
Them: Don’t care, at least my eggs are cheaper…wait
Them: Don’t care, I showed America that their two party system sucks…wait
Then: Don’t care, voting doesn’t matter anyway…wait
Them: As long as it’s hurting the right kind of people more
Objection!
Overruled.
If we don’t ban trans people, then Trump could end up mistakenly raping a dude, and we can’t have that! What would he even grab them by?
I believe it’s known as a bussy.
I feel like a screenshot of your comment (without context for best effect) would make a great post somewhere
A subtle aspect is that many of these people do like fucking trans women, but those trans women need to be vulnerable and disposable. When job discrimination is legal/encouraged, trans people turn to prostitution.
A lot of the conservative Christian machine is really a massive D/s kink. Punishing women for having sex, murdering trans women for making their dick hard.
Surely this will finally rein in the price of eggs.
And ended the war in Ukraine
And free Palestine.
Crickets from conservatives who love to screech about free speech
They only like free speech when it’s their voices.
Me/Mine is the conservative ideology boiled down to two words.
if you’re still waiting on conservatives to change their tune because you pointed out their hypocrisy, then you kinda just deserve whatever you get.
So guys, unrelated question.
Say I have a bear that isn’t a protected species that wanders around the area. Say I’m a lot of bit nervous of this bear destroying stuff towards the edge of my property, but my property edge is pretty damn far.
What kind of equipment would I need to take care of this bear, if the agencies and law enforcement wont do anything to protect me or my vulnerable neighbors from this bear?
I’m assuming this is a sort of coded question about how to defend trans people.
But since I’m not able to decypher it here’s an honest answer to your wildlife query.
The wildlife will live as it sees fit. If you don’t want it on your property, you will need to invest in fencing. If you wish to protect yourself from the wildlife, it means avoiding confrontations and encounters, and possibly carrying pepper spray.
Yeah honestly the best advice for encountering bears is basically “don’t”
Also applies to conservatives, or Conservatives.
Firearms. They’re asking about firearms.
Encoded question? Never. It just seemed to be useful context to ask this sort of question.
See that makes me think you’re being sarcastic, there is an encoded question, and that was an encoded answer to the the answer. Also that I really do not understand trans-coded language.
Im not trans. And I had no idea there was trans coded language which is pretty fucking cool.
Not to be confused with transcoding, which is important to viewing media.
I’ll never forgive the people who worked to put this fascist in power again.
Or the people who sat at home and let it happen.
I blame them most of all. They saw what was at stake and still demanded perfection on every issue, nitpicked, sowed division, and acted like we were having a totally different election where “not Trump” was an actual entry on the ballot (it wasn’t).
At least the Trump voters were honest about their intentions.
And I’ll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning (e.g. promising the most lethal military in the world, Liz Cheney, etc.) was going to make some voters stay home and risked losing the election, very much like how the Dems blew elections in 2016 and 2004. Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach.
e; and before it even comes up, I voted straight ticket Dem and have done so my whole life because there is nothing I want more than the total collapse of the Republican party
My pet theory is actually that Bernie helped, rather than gutted HRC/Biden. Through his primary campaign so many young people became convinced to vote Democrat. Even if Berniebros were disappointed, most of them still voted for a Democrat in the general election.
One thing you could really see in this election was that confused progressives moved to Trump (or stayed home) after a successful misinformation campaign. Would have been far harder for that misinformation to find a home, if progressive voters had already voted in the Democratic primary, and their preferred candidate had pointed them to the winner of the primary.
You could even see this on the GOP side. Because Hailey supported Trump, almost no GOP voters defected in the general election which ultimately resulted in the complete failure of the Democratic strategy.
TLDR: primaries with a wide variety of choices are extremely helpful in the General election.
You can be repulsed at the voters & the top democrats at the same time. There is no rule saying you can’t hate them both.
And they’re still trying to justify it, because preventing this shit wasn’t exciting enough or something. I don’t give the Democrats a pass on fucking the dog this cycle, but the voters knew what was on the table and choose not to vote against it and that’s so much worse imo. They let one or two issues condemn entire groups of marginalized people, and still cry BoTh SiDeS.
one or two issues
Damn, I wonder what it was about the outreach to these people that failed. The Democratic attitude of addressing issues by minimizing or dismissing voter’s legitimate issues couldn’t possibly depress voter turnout. /s
Fucking neoliberal brain-rot.
Well gee, looks like you really showed those neolibs what for!
And as I said before, one or two issues doomed all the issues. Some people can’t be bothered to give a fuck about long term consequences because they’re not excited enough about the party or some other excuse. I hope non-voters are happy with the outcome they voted for.
ETA: you can think I’m a neolibs all you want to make you feel better about the awful outcome, but I can sleep well at night knowing that I tried to keep things from getting worse by CoMpRoMiSiNg My MoRaLs and voted for the Democrats because I didn’t want more genocide and I care about the people around me.
That’s a false narrative. The people who stayed home weren’t the ones “demanding” anything. The ones making demands were almost entirely the ones who understood that other people would stay home. Your attacking people like me who were outraged by the actions of the Biden administration and the incompetency of the Kamala campaign, both because of the horrors they represent, and because we knew the vote would be suppressed. I voted for Kamala, but she let me down.
The people who stay home aren’t the left wing activists, they are the apolitical schmucks who don’t even consider voting until the week or day of the election.
That’s not an honest evaluation of reality. Its both leftwing activists and apolitical schmucks. And FUCK THEM BOTH.
If the left ever actually abandons the Democrats, they will never win another election again. Leftwing activists are the only activists the Democrats have. What do you think the Democratic ground game would look like without activists?
As a self appointed representative of left wing activism, no, fuck you. You did this.
I am a leftist. I hate the DNC. I hate apolitical dimwits. And I hate virtue voters and protest voters. I canvassed for democrats in a delusional bid to maintain my sanity this election and I will never do that again. I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now. It doesn’t matter you imbecile, we’re doomed.
I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?
I hate virtue voters
I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now.
So, what you’re saying is that they got there ahead of you. I guess we do become what we hate.
I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over.
Not while the Earth still spins and my heart is still beating. It’s not over, it just got hard.
I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?
This is why I wanted people to be able to see beyond the possibility (or probability) of electing Trump. It seems to me the entire left side of the country (and even some of the apolitical people) bet the entire house on Trump not winning again, and when he won again they have absolutely no answer for it.
It’s also what I found so frustrating about the “Genocide Joe” gang, because they were pretending the entire time that it wouldn’t be such a big deal if Trump got elected…that we would somehow be able to magically have a revolution or something and be able to handle a full-on fascist slide…that there would be a response from outside of the electoral and political system that would allow them to accomplish their purported goals if people just didn’t vote.
Well, we’re here. He’s elected. He’s in power. What the fuck is this supposed response and when is it starting?
I definitely blame those the cast their vote for Trump the most, because they literally voted for him. I blame non voters a close second.
Fucking crazy to me that so many people left of center are fighting over who to blame on their side when the people who voted for it are right there and in power.
Top names on that list are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic political consultants who destroyed her campaign.
Yes they fucked up too
At least there’s no more genocide going on anywhere in the world.
And he singlehandedly stopped the war in Ukraine on day one like he said
I’m pretty sure stores are paying you to take eggs now, too.
We’re all so rich now, my landlord just gifted me my apartment.
What do you expect us non-Americans to do about it?
I was hoping you’d assume that I am talking about the people who were able to vote who sat at home.
All I can suggest for the rest of you is to buckle up
I don’t think they were referring to you buddy.
Such a reactionary take. There’s a more than good chance the election was manipulated through voter suppression and purges. If we continue to look to the past and blame each other for failing to prevent Trump, the fascists will continue to use that to their advantage. There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support. To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.
It also assumes the outcome of our election was ever going to be fair, as if the captured Supreme Court wouldn’t have intervened in a close election to give Trump the presidency anyway. Harris needed a landslide victory to have a chance to avoid the election getting stolen, and by August it was clear she could not get one.
There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support.
There must be a path to redemption. It’s there for anyone who wants to take it.
To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.
While this is true, that path to redemption has to be taken first. Until then, my grievances stand firm.
Yeah it’s a reactionary take. A reaction to the chucklefucks who sat at home.
Emotionally I’m not inclined to place another iota of effort into politics. I feel like I’ve wasted 20 years of my life obsessing over it.
And with that I have zero desire to forgive anyone even slightly responsible for Trump’s victory. I don’t owe anyone shit, I did not choose to be born.
I am the exact same.
8 years, as I only started caring about politics when I saw Trump stamping his little feet over all of the progress we had made after Obama.
Now, I’m ready to watch this shit burn. Fuck it. I’ve got my one way ticket ready for when it truly goes to hell.
I have met people who voted for trump because they didn’t like Hillary, or didn’t like biden and “didn’t realize what he’d do” and far, far too many people he targets like immigrants who support him, for a Myriad of reasons, but many, saying he wont target us because we supported him or “He’s not going to target us, just ‘insert country here’”. The leopards earing faces voters are very real and have put so much on themselves and everyone around them.
awww. that’s gonna hurt their fee fees. well, i sure am glad we figured out how to stop fascism.
Oh, I forgot every single comment has to be about how to stop fascism!
Glad you told us how in your post.
Thanks for gracing us with such a smart comment. Sounds like I touched a nerve.
I feel the mad in you, I sincerely do, but when the whole ocean is moving in a certain way due to underlying currents, it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet, for none of them individually are responsible for it or have the power to control or alter it. Understand that the droplets themselves are moving because of the said currents. The best you can do is accept reality and plan your course ahead. The mad only burns you from inside without solving any problem.
PS: to everyone commenting below me, now mad at me -
- everyone is accountable for their individual actions and I’m not absolving anyone of their individual responsibilities.
- I’m not telling you that you shouldn’t feel the mad, rather that I get the mad that you feel. I’m just as mad as you.
- After being mad at all your friends and family for say about a decade, you come to realize that most of them are simple minds susceptible to propaganda, and that propaganda works, and that it works because it appeals to the human instinct of individualism (incorrectly overriding collectivism) using tools like fear and anger. We need to rise over our own anger and other instincts to see all this so we can better move forward.
Nobody understands population statistics… Your entire post is correct at a higher level than those shouting individualism, but they cannot comprehend the aggregate consequences or truth.
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Nobody is saying your emotions are invalid. Your feelings are very valid. Here’s a hug from me to you to prove the point (I hope it counts, lol). All I’m saying is that anger is instinctive & it clouds our judgement (like we literally can’t process any other thoughts while angry). If you calmly think about it, you instantly reacted and insulted me and other poster above you, you put us both in the ‘other team’, while we were both in your team all along. That my friend is anger leading to more individualism (you alone in your room) over collectivism (same team). That is the exact same weakness that is exploited by those doing the propaganda. And that is why we all need to rise over it.
I wasn’t looking for advice, and so I don’t really care what you have to say, which is why I deleted my comment to debate bro above.
Find another mission.
Fuck every fascist forever, and I don’t need the “tut tuts” of moderates. Anger is a very useful motivating emotion, and I’m never letting this fire burn out.
Intentionally so, so spare me more of your condescension.
it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet
No, they each made the individual choice to back a fascist.
Absolving them of that responsibility is the same infantilizing condescension that liberal media has been pushing for a decade now.
You don’t get to tell me how to feel about those who made the people I love unsafe, and I don’t owe a single one of those fascist bastards forgiveness.
He’s not blaming individuals, he’s blaming a collective. A conglomerate of willfully ignorant, and often hateful, voters. So yes, don’t personally attribute this to Bill So-and-so, but if you see Bill fly a confederate flag and talk about trans kids, you know Bill is part of the collective and you can go ahead and add some blame on his pile.
If only the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials had you as a lawyer. They were only following orders, after all.
Well we couldn’t have bLuEmAGA in power after all! That would have been worse!/s
Yeah! God forbid we keep Democracy running for a few more years while we all get our collective asses into gear and start tackling issues one at a time instead of being tugged to and fro from issue to issue!
One can dream, at least.
It’s been “a few more years” every election of my life. Nobody was ever going to take collective action to actually change the Democrat party, and the Republicans have been working for this endgame the whole time. The last two decades have been a slow motion car-crash.
Being an educator in this day and age seems so difficult, we are taught all the studies and theories of healthy child development, how to promote healthy social emotional learning, but we must fight parents and increasely the law to maintain a safe, healthy social environmental layer.
Good educators are already beaten down from so many things and have become rare, but I know most of my colleagues and friends have no intention of bending knee to this and policies aimed at hurting students we fight for, and I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.
That’s the point, that’s what they want and they want good teachers to be sick of it and leave so they can either put some uncertified person in your place or none at all and keep education for private schools. Trumpy said it himself, he loved the uneducated. It’s sadly all part of their plan to keep critical thinkers at bay so they can do whatever they want and nobody bats an eye.
Keep people uneducated, and feed them misinformation. yes, it is very unfortunate that is the federal policy for k-12 education.
To quote my maga father in law when discussing cutting funding to schools " I want them kids as ignorant as me"
Soo trashy.
I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.
I’ll leave this here…from 3 days ago: Teacher asks ICE to raid his school, says many students ‘don’t even speak English’
Good educators are a rare and dying breed. Unfortunately probably a lot who either openly or secretly harbour similar feelings.
The good ones usually quit before they get tenure. They don’t get paid nearly enough for all the shit they put up with.
yeah, I know all customer facing jobs have big cons, and working fast food isn’t easy by any means, but I see McDonald’s hiring ads and sometimes I wonder, 25% raise and far less likely to get bit? almost tempting. I would probably still have to talk to people as if they are children.
Thanks, I wasn’t depressed enough, but that really did the trick!
That was, thankfully, a substitute teacher. Which means they don’t necessarily have any education in education.
Thats not to say there aren’t scumbags just like them as full time employees, just noting not a regular teacher in that case.
there are many more fully resisting each purge attempt. shits getting dark af right now, but
dispairdespair cannot be an option.get out and find community. I did a thing two days ago. stopped by one of the only houses in my neighborhood that openly opposed the trump collective before the election. let them know I (and my fam) were here if they needed anything. we shared ideas and history. face to face. in realtime. and we will be checking up on each other moving forward.
edit: curnt speeeel.
dispairdespair👍
h2h👍
Happy cake day!
Blatantly unconstitutional, and he knows it. But the point isn’t to win on this issue, it’s to move the Overton window a little more and to sow more chaos.
It’s only unconstitutional until his SCROTUS lackeys reinterpret the Constitution to mean something it very clearly doesn’t.
This could actually be a good starting point for a nationwide action. Very few collective actions are as effective as a nationwide teacher strike. The call to action is also relatively straightforward. Something like “D.C. shouldn’t regulate what we teach in our classrooms “.
This really is reminiscent of early Nazi Germany, with an obsession over trans people (like Jews), and the idea that they’re the root of so much evil, and the constant implication that things would be better if they just go away…
The Nazis didn’t start by rounding up the Jews, they started with the “sexual deviants”. The parallel is a lot closer than you think.
Yes, and while you are absolutely correct, let’s also not forget that the early victims consisted not just of sexual deviants, but also of journalists, teachers, scientists, artists, etc. Basically any kind of intellectual, anyone who could threaten the propaganda machine. And political opponents, of course. Oh and books. Don’t forget books. And disabled people.
Let’s see. Who is Trump attacking? Transgender people? Check. Teachers? Check. Scientists? Check. Political opponents? Check Intellectuals in general? Check. Anti-intellectualism has been going strong for a while now of course. Books (information in general)? Check. Librarians? Check. Disabled people? Not sure about this one.
Trump and his cronies have watched a few WW2 documentaries and thought they were blueprints. His racism/bigotry might have a different prime target, but the whole playbook is a copy.
If an evil asshole were reviewing the history of Germany to try to avoid losing like the Nazis did, they’d see that they lost because the Allies, led by the United States, defeated them with superior military force. But if the Nazis WERE the United States, who would be able to do that?..
The allies weren’t led by the United States. The US industrial base was critical and the US military involvement was significant, but we were late to the effort and the Russians did a lot more of the fighting. (With a ton of US equipment for sure.)
Unfortunately, adding Russia to the list of countries who helped defeat the Nazis is just as unhelpful today. Just for fun, let’s throw in another country that helped defeat the Nazis: China!
Oof… Thanks. I appreciate the history lesson, as they did not teach that little detail in my schools.
Really it’s true but swap out trans for Republicans. (Things would be better without them)
I have fantasized about what the country would be like if we let them have their own land and government. So you’d be left with a “liberal” America and a “conservative” one as two countries. My prediction is the conservative one would be mostly dead of disease within a year or two and the liberal one would actually be able to legislate a bit, making incremental improvements like a functioning country
Depends, who gets the most weapons and troops? The Nazi country would try to conquer the other one at the first opportunity.
Yeah, the thought experiment fails when you look at that “detail” haha
Regressionists will always hold back progress.
There’s just no words for this level of evil.
The book burning and internet crackdown will surely start soon. Kiss the first amendment goodbye.
Unfortunately, these are already happening.
Source on the book burnings? There’s a list on Wikipedia with nothing very recent listed on it.
When the book bans first started here in Texas, there were documented cases of book burnings. I don’t have the energy to look it back up, but was reported in a few different cases.
Edit - to be fair, these could have been backyard burnings by fuckwads, not full blown community wide bonfire style that would make national headlines
In the executive order issued Wednesday evening, titled “Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 schooling,” Trump directs the attorney general to work with local and state officials to investigate teachers who “unlawfully facilitat[e] the social transition of a minor student.” The order defines “social transitioning” to include using a trans student’s name and pronouns, recognizing a student as nonbinary, or allowing them to use the restroom that aligns with their gender identity.
Ordinary people are going to have to start accepting the risk and actually fighting back. They’re a week and a half in, and already ordering Americans not to even recognise the existence of trans and nonbinary children, on threat of prosecution. It’s not just about denying them healthcare now (which in itself is terrible), it’s about preventing trans kids knowing anyone even sees them for who they are, or that they are seen and loved. The only outcome will be depression, loneliness and suicide, and Republicans want your kids dead if they don’t fit some very narrow mold they’ve pulled out of their own violent insecurities.
People need to fight now. Each day people lie low and wait to see where this is going, the chances of ever fighting back get slimmer.
People tend to follow by example. “People should do this” and “people should do that” is all well and good, but unless you’re saying it while doing the thing you’re telling others to do, it’s not going to make much impact.
Agreed! In my little online ecosystem, there’s been a number of stories of federal workers resisting, cities teaching people their rights to thwart ICE, etc. Since that may or may not make it out of certain bubbles, we should be boosting stories like that and sending them around so others don’t feel alone and do feel empowered to resist.
I agree, mere talk online isn’t going to achieve much, but it might help demonstrate that this sense of urgency is shared.
