• Optional@lemmy.world
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    I wonder if they’ll ever notice this place. Like. Before a big election or something.

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    At least this anti-Ukrainian spam seems to get flagged as such in my polish corner of Bluesky. Wondering how long that will last and if we’ll see Jack Dorsey doing fascist salutes on stage too.

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      As far as I know, Jack Dorsey left Bluesky almost a year ago: https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-bluesky-twiiter-nostr-interview-2024-5

      His interview on the topic: https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana

      I have to somewhat agree with him that Bluesky is still very much susceptible to turning into Twitter all over again. Right now, it definitely feels like Twitter in its infancy but with all the modern QoL features we expect to have nowadays. Which is nice, of course. Twitter didn’t used to be such a toxic shithole of bots and disinformation, it used to be a powerful communication tool for activism and journalists covering rapidly evolving events live.

      However, the endgame of such platforms is inevitable. Higher user saturation means higher operating costs, which then usually means the company has a higher reliance on advertising, which then leads to more algorithms and data mining for targeted ads, which then leads to easier mass political manipulation campaigns.

      I’m not sure if it’s actually possible to attract mass audience without an algorithm driven model. Mastodon tried and it’s had some moderate success, but because it’s completely devoid of algorithms, users have a harder time discovering people/accounts/mindless entertainment. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why Bluesky took off so much faster.

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        Mastodon tried and it’s had some moderate success, but because it’s completely devoid of algorithms, users have a harder time discovering people/accounts/mindless entertainment. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why Bluesky took off so much faster.

        I’m sure that’s a factor, but I can think of another reason. Decision paralysis when picking instances and frontends has been cited quite often as a substantial hurdle.

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          Sure, I can definitely see that as an issue for Lemmy especially. I haven’t used Mastodon in awhile (microblog format doesn’t really appeal to me outside of when I’m looking for sales), but I had thought that the main mobile app defaulted to the biggest instance there. Is that not the case?

      • katy ✨
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        He quit and Mike Masnick, of Techdirt fame, replaced him which is a good upgrade.

        Unfortunately, they still have Aaron Rodericks on trust and safety, who’s cozy with Singal.

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      Wouldn’t want to be getting any criticism in your feed of an authoritarian far-right dictatorship, now would we? Can’t have these tankies calling for elections or banning Nazi symbols!

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        It’s funny that I can interpret this in every way possible. Yes, I prefer to be able to be critical of US or Russia on my social media without getting downranked. Yes, I’m for free elections in Belarus. I’d be for banning nazi symbols but they’re banned where I live already.

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          Haven’t you heard? When Ukrainians declare themselves Nazis, cover themselves in Nazi patches, and refuse to hold elections, it’s “complicated” and we’re not allowed to talk about it.

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            Yes, and because there are Nazis in their army and refuse to hold elections in a war-thorn country, they all deserve to either be killed with the pretense of being nazis, being their children kidnapped and given to Russian families, and beaten and raped until they forget that ugly Russian dialect some dare to call “the Ukrainian language”.🤡

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              Do you believe this to be a reasoned response to my concern about real, self-identified Nazis empowered by the US? Do you think that countering Nazi criticism with reflexive projection of genocidal intent is helping your case?

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              they all deserve to either be killed with the pretense of being nazis, being their children kidnapped and given to Russian families

              Russia is the only side that has set “status quo conditions” for avoiding war. West+Ukraine chose this war. That orphanages in Crimea were evacuated to “safety”, and included a few ethnic Ukrainian children is not the “horror” it’s hyped to be.

              It’s fair to blame the side fighting for nazification and nato for the war.

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                  No. Killing ethnic Russians for 8 years, and not implementing the autonomy agreements, chose the war. Ukraine can peacefully join EU or have greater EU trade.

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            Unfortunately every countries military has nationalistic fascists, some of which use Nazi iconography to display their “pride”. I could find the 1940 Swedish general election (not at war), 1942 Icelandic parliamentary election (occupied by USA), 1943 & 1944 Irish general elections (not at war) as the elections held between Sep 1939 & Sep 1945, the other democratic European country’s I reviewed, elections were either postponed or went uncontested.

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    it is normal because the platform is growing and then BSKY public blocklist will be bigger to counter this.

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    Oh, good. I was worried we might actually get to keep a platform free of garbage. Whew. Can’t wait for all those conspiracy nuts to join in too!

    /s

    Seriously, if someone would just off Putin, that’d be great. Let Russia fall into a little civil war as smaller leaders fight amongst themselves for the scraps.

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      Just curious. Would you support a civil war in now openly fascist USA (see support of genocide and nazi salutes in presidential inauguration)? I don’t support civil war in either because that’s a horrifying outcome for the population of both.

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      i was hoping for a purified echo chamber because that’s clearly what this world needs more of.

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      That is the western propaganda for justifying diminishing Russia. “If we are lucky a civil war fractures Russia into balkanized sections which the US/CIA will be able to keep divided and warmongering amongst each other. Blow up their oil. Yay!”. Instead, Russians understand this war as defensive, and don’t believe “NATO is a purely defensive alliance” BS, any more than non-imbeciles in west believe it, instead of willingly going along with the hateful propaganda lies because they have internalized their rulers warmongering profits as if it were a sports home team.

      We can all be very thankful for Putin’s restraint on nuclear strikes of US bases in Europe, or Aircarrier fleets off coast of Israel. If anything, opposition in Russia that would replace him, if impression was that Russia was losing/Putin approach was failing, would be more aggressive in ending the war once and for all.

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          Russians understand Ukraine to be a necessary defensive action. Reality. And only relevance to their actions. Western propaganda meant to disinform Russians that NATO motives are purely human truth and love is desperation that cannot end well.

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    It’s always been there, it’s easier to moderate them out than it is on the alternatives. Would rather still be on bsky/mastodon than whatever the fuck.

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    This is how smaller communities die. They get infested with state actors and the paradigm shifts on some of the stupidest, dipshit topics.

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      You are literally reading EU state propaganda in this very post, an article by “kyivinsider” sourcing its information from “alliance4europe”, funded by the European Parliament and the Polish International Affairs ministry among others (according to its own website, feel free to check the link inside the article).

      That doesn’t mean that it’s fake news or anything, the report is most likely true, just that it’s really ironic that we’re consuming state propaganda designed to make us worried about state propaganda from other “evil” countries (unlike our glorious EU parliament, not on a fascist downward spiral at all)

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    The nuclear block makes it a fools errand

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    “Thank you, AI !”

    P.S. If Russians will be in Nurnberg court they will say something like “it’s not our fault, it’s putin’s fault.”

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    The amount of bots on that sh*tty platform is insane. I left it for Mastodon.

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    Can they not just block these? I get that this is a never ending battle against troll farms and the like, but is BSky already falling to the “more engagement is better and we don’t care if it’s nefarious engagement” trap already?

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      There are many useful blocklists. But the average user isn’t informed enough to seek them.