Summary
Elise Stefanik, President Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to the UN, stated during her confirmation hearing that Israel has a “biblical right” to the occupied West Bank, aligning with far-right Israeli officials.
Stefanik sidestepped support for Palestinian self-determination, blaming their leadership for failures.
Her stance signals a shift from Biden-era opposition to Israeli settlements, with Trump lifting sanctions on Israeli settler groups and nominating pro-settlement figures like Mike Huckabee for key roles.
Stefanik also vowed to audit UN funding and block aid to Palestinian refugee agencies.
Remember everyone, the “ceasefire” that Trump “negotiated” (wink wink) is in no way just a temporary distraction, he’s better for Gaza than Dems could ever have been.
They haven’t even stopped killing. Most of the death at this point is from injury, disease, and starvation, and I’m sure they are still not letting any food come in. And they’ve still been shooting people. And they did an air strike on a refugee camp in the West Bank yesterday, too, which they had been leaving alone for the most part.
Presumably, they’ll keep doing that until someone shoots at the IDF, at which point it will suddenly become a big deal that “Hamas broke the ceasefire” and they’ll resume unapologetically shooting people at scale. Starvation and disease, meanwhile, will be doing their gruesome work throughout, unabated.
I don’t honestly know whether Netanyahu engineered the timing on purpose, to give an opportunity for craven propaganda outlets to make a big fanciful noise about what a genius Trump is because he fixed Palestine, unlike that loser Joe Biden. I could see it either way: It would cost him nothing, but on the other hand, why bother? I’m not sure he really cares what people say about Trump. Either way, he gets what he wants.
Bible is not historically accurate. (≖_≖ )
A work of fiction isn’t historically accurate?
I’m shocked, absolutely shocked, I tell you!
In that case, Spain has a divine right to all parts of the US west of the Tordesillas Meridian. The pope said so.
Then don’t be surprised about Muslims following the Quran to the letter
• Surah Al-Hajj (22:39-40)
“Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right—only because they say, ‘Our Lord is Allah.’ …”
Had a Biblical right, but they forfeited it when they stopped following God and went and did things worse than the surrounding nations. They were rejected as a kingdom of God just before Babylon took over, and when they flash mobbed the Romans to execute Jesus, that completed the rejection. Israel has not been the Kingdom of God for 2,500 years, roughly, and definitely do not have his backing for this assault.
They never had a “biblical right” because there is no such thing.
The bible is just a story book, and if you take it so seriously that you support what is happening over there right now then you’re fucked.
Fight me.
It’s barely in the Torah, and it’s sure as shit not in the bibble.
You know what the bible also says, Elise?
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
– 1 Timothy 2:12
Please STFU Elise Stefanik as is your biblical right, nay duty, thus sayeth your lord.
According to the white house you’re a woman too. As gender is now assigned at conception … Stupid penis taking 8 weeks to start appearing in utero.
Knowing how these people behave, it’s “rules for thee, not for me”, and “yes that’s true but every woman should follow, but I’ll continue to say whatever the fuck I want anyways”. Cognitive dissonance on the surface level does not stop them. It’s always been a “I will say whatever the fuck I want and hide behind some pretty words, and all I have to do is to ignore your criticisms. You can’t touch me.”
Funny to hear from one of the worse tankies I have seen on .world
Everyone to the left of Netanyahu is a tankie, according to centrists.
We did it, Patrick. We saved Palestine.
Kamala would’ve nuked it.
You know, hormones and the predisposition to genocide, or whatever.
Great work everyone.
As a bonus, we get to:- increase drug prices (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/
The original EO is here, and was really difficult to Google:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/10/19/2022-22834/lowering-prescription-drug-costs-for-americans). - Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It’s only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the “at conception” points)).
- Cancel climate change (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-energy-emergency/).
Hurray.
Everyone do anazielon salute
Edit: bullet points
Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It’s only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the “at conception” points)).
As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is. Sure will be true for a lot of the other ones (especially climate). The sex ideology one (and contrary to their claim they of course are the ones with an ideology, because that is what you have when you ignore reality and make up your own truth based on falsehood) will do a lot of harm on the short term. There are real people out there who’s whole existence just got denied. My heart goes out (without a Sieg Heil, but in an empatic way) to all the Transpeople, Intersex People, Non-Binary People and all others who just got their identity denied. Please stay safe and hold tight. There are sane cis people out here who know you exist and stand by your side. For what ever that will be worth in the time to come.
As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is
And this is exactly why they’re doing everything they can to make sure people can’t learn this stuff in the future.
Correction on your one point - they declared that everyone is neither male nor female, since no one at conception produces reproductive cells. That starts happening later.
Yeah, more accurate to say everyone is androgynous based on the order.
- increase drug prices (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/
Meanwhile, Palestine…
I’m surprised you’re still here, to be honest. Yes, I know what Palestine is like right now. I care a lot about it. I wrote my congresspeople, back when they were approving the aid, trying to tell them not to do it. I didn’t think it would do anything, and it didn’t. That’s why I didn’t want Trump to come, and make things quite a bit worse than even Biden’s already war-criminal level of performance.
Around 85% of the Palestinians in Gaza are still alive right now, as far as I know. How many once Trump is done with them?
50%?
80%? Will he solve the Middle East during his term, and bring an end to the killing? It seems unlikely.
Less than 10%, with a lot of it annexed to Israel?
That last one seems pretty probable to me. I think better than 50/50 odds. I don’t want to bet.
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Realpolitiks hasn’t failed the West yet, why should it now?
Are you fucking for real dude? That’s your defense?
I’m not even going to ask you to elaborate on how you believe that just invoking the term “realpolitik” explains your position, because frankly I just don’t care enough to know.
I had a feeling you wouldn’t really want to engage with that conversation. It’s pretty fucking upsetting.
You’re so sure of yourself. A little humility goes a long way:
But those caveats should not obscure the fact that it was a Democratic president who so thoroughly failed in pushing Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders to accept a ceasefire deal—and that Biden’s incompetence is what has allowed Trump to take a victory lap before even taking office.
This failure had catastrophic consequences. According to the official death toll, Israel’s onslaught has killed more than 46,000 people in Gaza. Public health researchers estimate the actual death toll, which will only be known after buried bodies after pulled from the omnipresent rubble, is far higher.
I’m sure the Palestinians sleeping in tents tonight are wistfully reminding themselves that Biden was better because Trump might be worse.
I actually commented at more length on this exact article a while back, when one of my bots posted it:
https://ponder.cat/post/1337717/1524546
Now that the Israeli military has done several more attacks in Gaza since the ceasefire (including by a sniper who killed a child), and attacked a refugee camp in the West Bank for good measure, I stand even more so behind my assessment that taking the cease-fire seriously without having a reason to think it will continue is just poor pattern recognition.
You could have had Kamala Harris, who you could say might have been worse or might have been better than Biden. Instead, we have Trump, who is catastrophically worse, in every objective sense, by such a wide margin that I don’t want to think about it. Congratulations, I guess.
I don’t want to talk about this any more. I’m not sure why I engaged with it for this long.
Edit: I was thinking to myself, what the fuck? What are all these weird comments, why am I back in this experience of having this type of conversation?
And then I thought, ooooohhhhh, I resubscribed to !world@lemmy.world for some one-off reason, and this came up in my feed without me realizing that was where it’s from. There’s a reason I unsubscribed, because it is filled with an unusually high proportion of this stuff. Okay, peace. I’m back to unsubscribing, because I remember how infinitely more pleasant my Lemmy experience is without quite so many of the aggressively wrong people who always adhere to exactly one viewpoint and never stop replying. Cheers, you can carry on without me with what you’d wanted to say.
I’m sorry if I make you feel like you need to leave, it’s just a different way of viewing the world. I understand your sentiment about the threat of Trump, but I don’t excuse the Democrats role in allowing this to happen.
Let the shoulder patting commence.
As recently as yesterday, someone on Lemmy was showcasing to me the cease-fire Trump skillfully engineered in Gaza, with his straight-talking diplomatic skills, as an example of what Biden could have been doing any time he felt up to getting on Trump’s level, and a reason why Trump was better.
Lol right? They didn’t even wait for the fucking ink to dry…
therefore american indians have a birthright to 100% of the united states, right? right?
Doesn’t say so in the Bible though, tough luck.
Not in that new-old-fashioned one, but the Book of Mormon’s got them covered.
No, no, not like that. The whites had manifest destiny!
Mormons seen nervously filing away all that “Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israelites” real quickly.
The white Native Americans who sailed over from Jerusalem. The dark-skinned ones are cursed.
Ha, i forgot about that
Didn’t trump want to get rid of birthright citizenship? We can just retroactively do it to 1500AD, and give the land back. What’s that? Not like that?
Great show
Hmmm I’ll have to check what Moses said about that
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These fucking cunts either pretend to believe in fairy tales or really do believe in fairy tales, and I’m not sure which is worse.
Right doesn’t it feel like seeing grown ass adults believing in Santa Claus?
Giving the history of US voting in the UN on anything Israel related being No, this doesnt make any difference.
