Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California’s devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    18 hours ago

    If I was governor of California:

    Sure, go ahead. We’ll stop paying Federal taxes. Let the red states crumble as they don’t have our funds. You hold us hostage, we’ll play by your games. You go low, we go low.

    Maybe then we’ll have some sort of progress as a nation for the first time in years.

    • facelessbs@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      16 hours ago

      The economy of the State of California is the largest in the United States, with a $4.080 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2024.[1] It is the largest sub-national economy in the world. If California were a nation it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the world’s sixth largest economy, behind India (4.27 trillion) and ahead of the United Kingdom (3.588 trillion).

      And we are also a donor state. Even with all the RnD that we have.

    • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      17 hours ago

      California is welcome to become Canada’s 4th territory or 11th province (both are equal).

      I don’t know if we can help you a lot, but we definitely won’t treat you like shit.

  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    3 hours ago

    Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations

    Some of us here will be directly affected by Johnson’s debt ceiling concessions. How does it feel to be commoditized like this, to the point of your household becoming a bargaining chip?

    You, personally, are worth no more to Johnson &co than the number of services Newsom is willing to cut (and thus how many citizens will be pressed) in order to meet Johnson’s demands.

    That’s infuriating, and it flies in the face of humanitarianism. Slaps it right in the face.

    e: I can’t spell

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    19 hours ago

    If y’all want to see what happens to the federal budget when California stops paying, keep it up.

    Should probably stop giving the free money to moochy red states though.

    • IMongoose@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      19 hours ago

      I honestly think this is going to be the start of hopefully cold civil unrest. GOP will block federal aid, California and maybe other blue states will stop paying federal taxes. Red states start imploding.

      • WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        19 hours ago

        Yeah except Democrats are generally too cowardly to actually go that far. The most we’ll probably see is lots of lawsuits against the federal government from blue states like during the last Trump admin.

  • kipo@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    45
    ·
    1 day ago

    California should be like: “We will not negotiate with terrorists.”

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    1 day ago

    The entire qon thing of “California bad” is just so very fucking stupid. It’s clear they are very jealous of California, which is arguably our most important state.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    14 hours ago

    After the east coast relief was swift and without condition, as it should be.

    Remember the red states take more than they contribute, now on top, they will restrict access to the federal tax funds that California disproportionately contributes to keep this rotting corpse of a country afloat.

    The Republicans are the bad guy from the 80s movie. They are hanging from the cliff about to die, the hero reaches out to save them, they climb up the hero’s outstretched arm to safety and then immediately turn and kick the hero off the cliff with a boot to the back of the head.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    57
    ·
    1 day ago

    I guess California and other blue states should also tie federal taxes to things of their own. Maybe even leave the union altogether, alongside with other states.

  • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    1 day ago

    Doing something so cartoonishly evil to so many people who so recently lost everything?

    I don’t know, sounds like a safety issue for him. Hopefully his preservation instincts kick in.

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      49
      ·
      2 days ago

      Yes. When you consider that means making the left suffer. This is exactly what MAGA wants.

      • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Except there’s more Republicans living in California than the total population of most red states.

        • Crikeste@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          22 hours ago

          Well, it just so happens this tragedy happened in a blue state. The only place where governing and politician’s actions are scrutinized.

          If this had happened in a red state? It’s just an act of god. (Also, their cops would be considering anyone they see as looters and killing them, all while driving around in unmarked vans, wearing plain clothes and using their personal armories [to kill innocent Americans])

        • EldritchFeminity
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          1 day ago

          Doesn’t matter. They’d jump on a grenade if they could push a liberal down underneath them.

    • pyre@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      2 days ago

      Mexico is helping while “America first” government officials are deliberately withholding aid. Absolute demons.

      • Doomsider@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        17 hours ago

        Mexico takes the high road and helps after all they have said and done. It speaks volumes about the Mexican politicians and shows that our conservatives are the enemies they make everyone else out to be.

        • pyre@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          14 hours ago

          they’re worse than enemies. we’ve seen enemies help each other during devastating natural disasters. countries with long history of animosity still send each other humanitarian aid in times like this.