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Has there ever been a time in human history where we were just allowed to exist for our passions and not work for survival? Our economic system definitely has its flaws, but this meme paints with too broad strokes.
You don’t work merely for your own survival under capitalism, most of your labor goes to supporting the capitalist class (and bombing foreigners to keep resources cheap so those capitalists can make even more money).
Half a century ago, working in a grocery store was enough to buy a home, raise a family, and put a kid through college. The job did not get less productive, if anything each worker produces more than ever with automation, but a greater share goes to the capitalist class, both through stagnant wages and increasing costs.
The Renaissance was a time of a vast labor shortage. This allowed workers to demand higher wages, and it also allowed leisure time to study new things and make new art.
This is true also when you have strong unions to bargain for good benefits. Still, you need to do some work, as opposed to the message of the meme “you have to pay for being alive”.
Unions are a band aid solution to capital exploitation.
it’s still in their best interest to oppose automation so members can continue to work pointless jobs for a wage.
If we’re talking specifically about art, historically, there was the patronage system where wealthy people would pay artists that they liked to largely just spend their days painting whatever they liked. It wasn’t something every artist could take advantage of (Van Gogh died a poor pauper because his paintings basically didn’t sell at all until after his death, for example), but it did exist.
Also, genuine question if anybody knows, what about the philosophers of old? Did they get paid as teachers of their school of theory or something?
It’s not like there was ever a time when people simply didn’t work at all, but there is a large portion of the population today who don’t feel like their work is anything other than busywork with no reason to it, and that makes them miserable even doing something that they love. There are people out there who love picking up garbage for a living because they know that they’re doing something that makes a difference.
One doesn’t even get to focus on paying just for oneself.
One has to pay for Zuck/Bezos/Musk/Cook/Trump first.
This was pretty much what set me on the path to radicalisation.
The system felt so unfair and then to learn that there were people who could do exactly this just because they were born into a family with large capital it was infuriating.
That’s why I dislike these kinds of memes that say, “Oh, I shouldn’t be working all day; I should be living a life of leisure and free to create”.They feel like the conservative strawman of the “lazy leftist who just envies the rich”.
Living as the meme describes inherently requires the exploitation of labor. Unless a society becomes technologically advanced enough to achieve fully automated post-scarcity, meeting a person’s needs still requires a certain amount of human labor. The issue under capitalism is that some people do live as the meme describes, and they do so by exploiting the labor of others through capital. As a result, the rest of us struggle even more.
Hey want to throw up? Here’s a Koch heir using daddy’s blood money to be a pretend “creative.”
What a fucking jerkoff, billions of dollars at his disposal, he’s probably got designers and renowned artists on speed dial…
…and the most creative he can get is “a shirt, but in a fun print!”
butt in gommunism, you think you’ll be a poet, but you’ll work in a mine.
in capitalism I wanted to be an astronaut, but now I have a substance abuse problem and write spaghetti code for a corporate machine that would not give a shit if I dropped dead tomorrow.
Was talking to a friend about AI and job loss and eventually he says something about “those people in the past talking about reducing the population” unfortunately being possibly necessary… I think he was referring to some things written on the Georgia guidestones, but Jesus fucking Christ…
Essentially “How many people are allowed to live is entirely dependent on how much labor Mr.Money needs.”
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innovating or being less wasteful??
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arguing to reduce the population so the privileged can have even more privilege?
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you “only” need to pay for being alive instead of going around hunting all days fighting boars and shits
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‘Man’ isn’t ‘designated’ to anything. We just exist and are sentient and able to think about what we would like our lives to look like. Most people would like to live a life beyond working 40 hours a week on a job they don’t enjoy and where they have no say in anything. We have enough resources to make sure everyone has a home and food and can live a fulfilling life, if only those resources were divided in a fair way.
moderated lmaoo
I bet you were very badly wrong in your comment, but I would have at least like to see it (and down vote it too if it deserved it). I don’t need protection from stupid, just illegal or outright racist/offensive.
Moderation logs are public and two clicks away.
If you want to see the comment, you can see it, but if it breaks a rule it doesn’t have an inherent right to be displayed alongside constructive conversation like it has the same merit.
Thanks, I didn’t realize it was possible. Well, not gonna start arguing about mod policy, but I think down votes would have been just fine here. Anyway, no strong feelings in any direction here.
You and everyone else who’s been ingrained with the demented idea that mankind was ‘designated’ to fight each other for survival can all go fight each other for your survival and leave the rest of us out of it.
