• ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    People don’t realize that not every implementation of Socialist policies have to involve a vanguardist dictatorship like China or USSR (which is what almost every American have in mind when they think of “Socialism”)

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      I’m sorry but calling the USSR a “vanguardist dictatorship” is just not historically accurate. Plenty of democratic mechanisms in the USSR, at any rate much better than anything else we’ve had so far. For a dictatorship, it dissolved itself quite peacefully didn’t it?

      Sadly, attempts at socialism in which workers didn’t take the power of the state, ended up like Salvador Allende in Chile, like Mosaddegh in Iran, like the Spanish Second Republic… Idealism only gets you so far, sadly.

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        Plenty of democratic mechanisms in the USSR, at any rate much better than anything else we’ve had so far.

        Fucking lmao

        For a dictatorship, it dissolved itself quite peacefully didn’t it?

        I’m sure you’d say the same about Pinochet, wouldn’t you? :)

        Sadly, attempts at socialism in which workers didn’t take the power of the state, ended up like Salvador Allende in Chile,

        Yes, if only Allende was a dictator, THEN he wouldn’t have trusted Pinochet. That was what planted that seed of trust in Allende’s heart - not being a dictator.

        like Mosaddegh in Iran,

        Ah, yes, when Social Democrats are overthrown by Western powers, they’re good comrades; any other time, they’re social fascists.

        like the Spanish Second Republic

        The same Spanish Second Republic which was backstabbed and destroyed by Soviet-bootlicking MLs?