So far I have been censored on .world but not on .ml
Oh, it’s the regularly scheduled sabre-rattling post.
He has a little star in his calendar for every month.
Yep, they even get a bunch of their posts from Lemmy.ml communities and cross post them to non-Lemmy.ml communities. That’s fine, but this is just a huge dedication to inter-instance drama.
I don’t care for the moderation policies of .ml but I don’t see what shitposting about it all the time without the context that they will ban you for “pro capitalist” posts does other than split the fediverse and make users who don’t even know what your problem is act defensive
The “average .ml poster”/“average .world poster” discourse is worn out.
Average .world poster trying to keep their CIA ran platform alive.
avg tankie
Can you explain what you mean?
They’re saying .world is anti-china.
Better .ml than .world, honestly
I don’t know why ml is so hated
.world is basically Reddit. They want Lemmy to be Reddit, and censor Lemmy as if it is Reddit.
If you make a negative post about .world it will get removed by their mods but they never apply their rule to .ml
Make a negative comment about China on ml I dare ya.
And this is exactly why .ml is so hated. That comment is pure .ml propaganda.
I have seen tons more .ml posts where mods go rampage mode and remove anything criticizing Communism, Russia, China, authoritarian regimes, their genocides, .ml itself, their mods, hate on US or any western nation, brigading …
.ml stands for Marxist Leninist, and they make sure you know it.
You rarely see negative posts about .world because they get removed.
Remember the MBFC debacle?
The admins and mods of .ml are the biggest Tankies of Lemmy, they refuse to admit that China is an authoritarian dictatorship that has committed recent genocide and constantly lick Putins boot saying things like Russia was justified in invading Ukraine unprovoked
!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works though you’ll need to view through another instance because .ml blocks this community specifically
Probably should be noted those communities are filled with the brigading efforts of like two chronically obsessed people who use alternate accounts to stir up shit or screenshot posts they often write themselves.
Some Lemmy instances are generally hostile to Marxists, who are more concentrated on Lemmy.ml.
Lemmy.ml and hexbear are not marxist. They are fascists cosplaying as soviet communists. Many people don’t make that distinction though.
probably because that distinction is unfounded.
Believe it or not, there’s nothing saying a communist country needs to be a one party dictatorship. It would be perfectly achievable though democracy if the majority of the population actually wanted to take collective responsibility for the country and wanted people to be treated fairly. The reason communist dictatorships fail is because they are dictatorships, not because they are communist.
Marx had very little to say about the governing structure of communist governments, but did actually describe socialism as a ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’.
What you’re taking issue with is how marxism was later applied by various political projects, but they all still fall under the umbrella term of Marxism.
Put another way: all Marxist-lenninists are Marxist but not all Marxists are Marxist-lenninists
Y’all know you can post to more than one place, right?
OP makes these posts on around a monthly basis, they have a pattern of posting these instance-drama related posts fairly regularly.
If
.mldidn’t exist Lemmy would be reddit-level huge already.Thank god it exists then, the last thing we need is another Reddit.
Yes, thank god
.worldexists and a reminder to donate!literally no one but extremist anti-social tankies were using Lemmy before
.worldhappened.Reddit already existed before .world, makeing .world completely redundant.
Reddit is not federated, not transparent, not open source. Dumb take my dude.
.world hates federation lol.
Only from those instances that like to brigade others, which is exactly why the defederation button exist.
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under 1 day LOL
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the use of the word westoid implicates tankie for me, no changing that.
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Are you saying that The Netherlands is fascist, or the people hosting Lemmy.world? I don’t know about the latter, but regarding the former: The Netherlands has a multiparty system, in which the fascist right party you refer to, only got 37/150 seats. With it, it became the largest party in the government today, but it only represents roughly 25% of all voters. Therefore the majority of the country isn’t fascist, so I don’t see how your comment makes any sense.
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1 hour old account with a similar name to banned ANT_EEY_ANKS.
Hmmm wonder what you are trying to do…
Holy shit. Antiyanks is STILL making new accounts? I thought it was funny months ago but now this is just sad.
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It’s larger than I would like it to be, sure. But claiming a country is fascist based on 25% is just wrong. You would be right if it were the majority. Besides, if you look at the details you’ll see that many people used the far right as a protest vote (which I despise, but not the point). I doubt and perhaps hope those people aren’t actually fascist.
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They can’t, their party leader isn’t in government and there’s three other parties keeping them in check (one of those is particularly twitchy about this sort of stuff).
Besides, Dutch law does not provide many executive powers that can infringe upon freedom of speech. There’s not a whole lot they could do even if they tried.
The weekly .world feud post right on time.
Edit: for someone who doesn’t like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.
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You can’t see your own comments in this thread? How interesting.
Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml
Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they’d get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:
MARXISM! UuUuHh!!
That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance
why say this on .world?
I’m just here having newly federated everything and glad to be the fuck away from reddit
welcome! there is constantly infighting here. you chose a good instance.
.world is the most ‘reddit’ like of Lemmy, and that’s not a compliment.
completely agree.
Lemmy.world is just more popular than other lemmy instances. At least it’s not threads.
The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government
Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.
Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.
.world Admins and mods don’t follow the Dutch law. They clearly follow there personal biases and the I think that it’s okay if they where honest.
Instead of saying we don’t like you talking about jury nullification. They say it isn’t allowed by law. Jury’s are not even a thing in the Netherlands. They say they follow the law, but they just follow a ideology and are lying about it.
.ml admins and mods clearly have a personal bias and are honest about it. You can think it’s a shit take. But you know where they stand for. Like it or not.
E: mods of communities don’t always follow there admins line of course. And there are shit mods on both instance
I feel like an old man asking this, but what is the theme of 196?
Go stir up some drama in 196.
Did you forget which post you’re commenting in?
Here’s a translation of the relevant Dutch law against violent speech:
Article 137d: “He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.”
Is being a CEO a religion now?
(Fun fact technically irrelevant to our discussion: being biphobic or aphobic is allowed in the Netherlands)
Your last point all depends whether we take the spirit of the law or the letter of the law… but perhaps there could be a non-Dutch higher court to decide any contentious points?
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Is Drag your alt?
Ah yes the supply side jesus freedom ranking brought to you by citibank
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Okay and I don’t care about your uninformed opinion and yet here you are, wasting my time. 🥸
But there is an easy fix for that.
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oh wow, not sure what was said but thankfully I’m lazy and hadn’t replied to that person in another post I still had up (science post I was gonna answer their incredulous questions in case they just didn’t understand but I see now it’s just a troll account). Looks like they got site banned but it’s unfortunately the shitty way where you can’t see anything they did to know what happened.
Nah I’ll keep my content off of blahaj as long as their mods want to legitimize trolls.
What’s this about, sorry? Is this the thing with keeping chasers on here (which I personally don’t agree with)?
EDIT: Ah, never mind. You are a bellend. Should have guessed since you are moaning about the instance full of trans people. Do one, gobshite.
It’s over having a community wide hard line on pronouns. Even if a suspected troll is using neo pronouns (or any pronouns frankly) that’s not a license to misgender them.
The user that sparked the recent controversy (drag) has a history of being pretty volatile/offensive but that’s still no reason to compromise on neo pronouns.
I for one would rather put up with someone ‘trolling’ while using neo pronouns (until the inevitable ban for saying something shitty) rather than tolerate anyone getting misgendered in a trans-inclusive space.
Fucking hell. Really? Thanks for telling me.
If someone wants to use a less orthodox pronoun fucking let them. Drag might have a history of being a troll but refusing to use drag’s pronouns means that drag’s gender is conditional on them being well behaved. It turns the use of anyone’s pronouns into an act of “just being polite” or “humouring them”. Its a culture of gate keeping we cannot afford to perpetuate in the current climate of anti-trans hostility.
Um ok, I didn’t name any other instance, just advocating against .ml
Um ok, I’m advocating against blahaj because it’s a toxic space
it’s a toxic space
SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
@lemmy.world
womp womp guess who didn’t play both sides
Glad you got that off your chest. Really nice of you to just plainly spell out you don’t respect how people choose to identify
Yes, same for lemmy.world. If you want to post something niche and find a dead Lemmy.world community maybe consider first seeing if there’s one elsewhere to revive or even make yourself (assuming you’re registered somewhere else of course).
Lemmy’s search is dogshit… It’s my number one problem with this place. And this is the ONLY place I use these days.
Yeah, I have no problem with Lemmy.world (I mean, my main is on here), but spreading comms amongst at least a few instances is better for the overall health of the Fediverse.
See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.
More in line with your comment though I wish there was a way to specifically merge a few comms into a single feed just for viewing purposes. So if you wanted to you could merge two c/memes feeds from different instances. You’d either have to take the post button away from that view or make it prompt you to select one of them from a list though.
Would also be cool to be able to export / share merger lists so if you trust someone’s opinion on which subs from a topic are worth following or go well together or even just want to migrate your own list you can do that too.
See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.
what does SH mean in this context?
my home instance
Helpful links:
Lemmyverse is a good place for finding communities your instance might not know about
Lemmy Federate is good for seeding communities to other instances.
There’s nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.
Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.
It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.
I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn’t “respectfully” comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn’t trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).
Let’s make this easy, show me one example of what you’re talking about so my mind can be changed.
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ROFL! The .ml rage is clearly on full display here.
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You’re clearly upset. Maybe it’s best to let this rest.
Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It’s not a few bad Apple communities, it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Gee, I wonder what your disagreement is
The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don’t like what you see, that’s a you problem not .ml’s
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it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Dramatic 🙄
Fine, can we concede that while they’re allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?
Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I’ve seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there’s some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.
I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.
Check the modlogs. .ml uses rule 1 as a catch all for whatever is said that hurts their feelings.
Almost daily there are removals and bans that don’t break rules.
weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people “kids” in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.
CW: .world modlog
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moderated .ml comment
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got any better examples?
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“Nothing wrong” lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I’ve practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it’s because of their lies and responses to myself and others…
Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears.
Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.
Are you pretending to be a mod, or was that a bad joke?
Anyway, this isn’t an ideology disagreement and I’m not talking about what goes on in other countries/languages, it’s an anecdote. I’m telling you what I experienced.
It wasn’t a joke; it was calling you out for bullshit. And you’re not sharing an anecdote of what happened to you. You’re vague posting and expecting people to nod along without so much as a broad categorization of what you’re talking about, let alone details.
In all likelihood you’re whining about something in which you were clearly in the wrong.
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splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
No one’s saying defederate.
There’s always someone on .world with an axe to grind lmao
Oh the irony.
The instance tribalism is ironic; most of the people complaining about .ml have also been banned from other communities for similar behavior (racism, misogyny, etc).
It’s truly the most reddit of instances. And yet, here I am.
I started on .world to. You can be free one day. I believe in you.
You don’t get more free in authoritarian instances like .ml
