I don’t see much of a problem myself so long as it’s actually for safety purposes and not just for detainment purposes at a normal school.

The elementary and middle school I went to had fencing to keep people out of backyards and the street, and a gully in the case of elementary school. Reasonable. Keeps minors safe just in case a car came by if a kid went to grab a ball they accidentally launched into the street or they decide to explore the fully and fall over and hurt themselves because little kids are good at disappearing and hurting themselves, I swear.

High school? Absolutely no idea why the football field had a fence other than keeping people off the property, which was connected to a park.

Yes, and barbed wire, Czech hedgehogs, guard towers with snipers.

Jokes aside apart from preventing a ball flying into traffic during recess what are we trying to achieve?

An interesting game to play when driving around the US is “Prison, or School?”

The rules are simple. When driving past any complex with tall fences, quickly blurt out if it’s a prison or school. Then look for signage or check a map application to verify.

You’d be surprised how often you’ll get the answer wrong.

They fenced my son’s school this summer. Previously it was only the playground and field that was fenced. New fence is 4 ft high, no gates, just gaps at walk ways.

At first I was unhappy about it, feeling that it cut the school off from the community. But then my son and I arrived early one day and had his soccer ball, we were able to really play on a lawn that would have been too small without a fence. So I can see that the fence creates more usable space for the school. And I’ve come around.

My immediate answer was yeah why not, but then I read the comments about prison fences and realised I was missing some American specific context. The fence’s at my schools were waist high with open gates. They were more of a boundary marker than anything else.

Fences are fine. Especially for young kids near the playground and streets.

Except the fact you need to maintain it (which will be in the form of a replacement every 73 years when enough kids get stabbed by it) and it needs to have enough exit points in case of emergency. It shouldn’t funnel everyone to one spot in the front.

My schools were fenced in. Nothing threatening or intimidating, it was just chain link with a gate somewhere along it. Keeps the troublesome kids from running off, makes sure everyone can hear the bell, keeps weirdos from coming in during school. And when the school is right next to a forest, that’s just sensible.

I like a fence. But if you’re going to do it, don’t make it look like a damn prison. Whatever happened to a nice brick wall with some pointy ironwork on top of it? It serves the same function as a fence topped in razor wire. But it provides that function without making the place look like a prison. I know it’s way more expensive than a chain link fence. But damn. What is the value of the damage done to the souls of all the students that have to go to school behind razor wire. All schools should be surrounded by big brick walls with pointy bits of cast iron on them. Now it’s classy and doesn’t feel like the fucking state penitentiary.

Sure, otherwise the inmates classmates might escape.

It’s different everywhere in the US. I grew up in California. Graduated HS 1989. My elementary and high schools were completely fenced in while the middle school i attended was not at the time, but has been for some time now. Even in high school it was a closed campus and only Seniors were allowed to leave at lunch if their parents signed off on it. It was called “Senior Privileges.” I had a friend that went to Highschool about 40mi from me and they had an open campus and everyone could leave at lunch. No clue how those decisions were made, but his HS had a literal smoking section on campus for students. The 80s were a different time.

Yeah but it depends.
An elementary school near me recently replaced their chest-height chain-link fence with a 10ft steel bar fence with spikes on top. There’s some benefits to a fence, but the spikes just make it seem menacing. And I guess more abstractly, it communicates that school is a dangerous place that’s walled-off from the rest of the world rather than a place that’s just like any other part of society. This is in the USA, I should mention, so maybe the cynical message is more accurate.

Depends. I went to a exurb elementary school and it didn’t need a fence - walk through the woods until you get bored. However I’ve also seen schools where there is a busy road nearby and they need something to stop the kids that would run that way. (older kids would not, but very young will run without looking and a few special needs kids have no sense of what is safe)

Dude from where I’m from schools are built like prisons by default: tall external walls, a single big black gate for entrance, ugly indoors without any personality, no locker rooms… We Don’t have metal detectors though, only Americans have type of issues

I’m in favor of them. Just from a utilitarian standpoint, it helps to be able to demarcate the bounds of a school so that you don’t have random people just wandering up throughout the day mistaking a schoolyard for a park and causing disruptions. Moreover, it gives kids the freedom to roam relatively unsupervised during recess/break time without worry of them wandering off somewhere. In densely-populated areas, it’s basically a necessity to fence off athletic fields as well to prevent any accidental damage to nearby property if a ball goes flying.

There’s a lot that can be done to make school buildings feel less prison like, but a fence is just a fence and is innocuous enough.

its sad really. the school system was supposed to sorta act as a public space. sorta like community colleges. kids in the day and adults at night. modern world is so messed up though.