cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/22187363

Neil Gaiman’s The Sandman had the longest of mistiest paths to becoming a TV show, three decades after the DC Vertigo comic’s debut. The hesitation was down to the fantasy author resisting several awful movie attempts, and too much could have gone wrong in adapting the infinitely layered fantasy story, but Netflix brought a lugubrious and stunning spectacle to screens (full of Life Amid Death) as the first three graphic novels were initially adapted.

The second season has taken years to come together, which isn’t unheard of for a Netflix fantasy series with heavy VFX. Sadly, this could also conceivably be the final season, given that several Gaiman projects (like Amazon’s Good Omens) have been cut short, cancelled, or apparently indefinitely paused in the wake of sexual misconduct allegations against the author (as initially reported by Tortoise Media). Those accusations do make the show’s bonus “Calliope” story hit differently than when the episode first surfaced, but that’s not a discussion for today. The Sandman‘s second season is still coming, so let’s (awkwardly) sift through what we can expect.

How many episodes will we see? The first season brought 10 initial episodes and a bonus hour, but Netflix has not offered a count for the second season. However, Redanian Intelligence has passed on the rumor that we could see 12 new episodes of The Sandman when the show returns. This seems too good to be true, so we will await official word on that note, but the second season will leap headlong into Season Of Mists, the fourth graphic novel (considered the favorite volume of many The Sandman fans).

  • Steve@communick.news
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    Going back to Stranger in a Strange Land I’ve loved enough books by great and terrible authors, I’ve firmly landed in the camp of love the art not the artist.

    They’ve done a fantastic job with this series so far. I want to see it completed. The ending is too important to leave it unfinished.

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      Not sure why you imply Heinlein is terrible as a person, he seems pretty benign, especially comping from a military background.

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        He was a pretty hard core libertarian and misogynistic. Even for his time. He said himself, he only wrote Stranger as a joke making fun of the hippies. Still one of my top 5 favorites though.

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          Libertarian , sure, but more old school one before Ayn Rynd and co ruined it? Misogynistic? I thought he had female characters achieving things and mixed gender militaries in his work?

          I might be remembering things wrong, I read his stuff decades ago

        • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukOP
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          However, given what we now know about the other two pillars of the Golden Age of Science Fiction, his reputation is the least tarnished. A low bar, perhaps, but still…

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          What’s wrong with libertarians? I think they get a bad rap and some of their ideas might be unworkable but their hearts are in the right place.

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            The few times I’ve dug into it with someone, it always comes down to, “I don’t want to pay so much to help people I don’t know or like?”

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              There definitely are some of those and I’ve met them. But when I’ve dug further with them I found there were plenty of government programs they benefited from that they would be unwilling to give up. In other words, “government benefits for me but not for thee!”These people I would call selfish hypocrites rather than libertarians.

              No, when I think of a libertarian I think of someone like Milton Friedman. He believed everyone would be better off with less government intervention in people’s lives. In the few cases where he thought government was still necessary (such as law enforcement, national defence, and the disbursement of a negative income tax benefit) he believed it should be kept.

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                It’s kind of convenient, isn’t it? They want less government, but to keep the bits they do want. Well, so does everyone else, and you know how we settled it? Voting.

                Adding a note to say I’m not specifically talking about American politics here, but the ideas in general.

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                  Yeah. Friedman makes the case that he wants government programs eliminated wherever and whenever possible and that the only ones which should remain are those that can’t be handled by private enterprise.

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    I liked the first season although I have not read the source material.

    That death episode really stood out for me. It was so poignant.

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    given that several Gaiman projects (like Amazon’s Good Omens) have been cut short

    What a weird example, given that Good Omens ran out of source material in season 1.

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      What you didn’t care for the random continuing gay fanfic almost seemingly unrelated to the first season that was written after the author who wrote the bulk of the original story deceased?

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      Yeah, I wish season 2 hadn’t ended in a cliffhanger

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      That was always going to be a tricky pitch and I think the allegations have raised the bar too high on this.

      Ellis is back working and we’ll see what the reception is to his new projects but I suspect it just adds an extra bit of friction to the process, which will doom any adaptations. For now anyway.

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        That was always going to be a tricky pitch

        yeah, but with ALL the sci fi series getting picked up, and all the well known adult comics being adapted (the boys, preacher, watchmen, constantine, sandman, etc) the last holdout felt like Transmet was the last one from that era that have the same tone that was left to be adapted.

        I mean, they’re not exactly going to be chomping at the bit to adapt shade the changing man, are they? They’re even doing fucking swamp thing.

        The only other one I can think of that has yet to be adapted, fits the mold and hasn’t been picked up is The Invisibles.

        Edit : and the sfx budget for the invisibles would be through the fucking roof