The sheriff said Tesla CEO Elon Musk helped the investigation by having the truck unlocked after it auto-locked in the blast and giving investigators video of the suspect at charging stations along its route from Colorado to Las Vegas.
What if this hadn’t been purposeful but an accidental blast… and the doors auto-locked someone inside? Do you need Musk’s personal cell number to be able to get out alive? What even is this?
Seriously, how are Tesla’s not widely considered dangerous deathtraps at this point.
Cybertrucks have a lot of problems, but this seemed to be a clearly intentional explosion by somebody.
That aside, can Tesla just unlock any of their vehicles remotely and access all the camera footage on it? That seems like a much bigger problem, especially since Mr. Musk is practically our next president.
If the car has internet connectivity and an app, then the answer to that question is yes, because that’s how the apps work.
And I very much doubt you can find a manufacturer that promises that they definitely don’t ever access that functionality or data for any reason whatsoever, especially if the cops or a court orders them to.Can Tesla just unlock any of their vehicles thirdly and access the video
Almost always yes, but it’s the same for any modern car
Tesla allows owners to opt out of online services, in which case the video is stored locally briefly and Tesla cannot see anything from the car or do anything to it
Tesla employees got in trouble years ago for sharing sexy videos from random Tesla car drivers and passengers
So don’t do anything in or near a Tesla you wouldn’t want seen by randoms
Then I wonder why not all Teslas are banned in Europe. Damn. I wish they were. Whenever I see a Tesla, no matter if I’m a pedestrian, cyclist, bus rider or driving a car, I always assume they can do unexpected things. Be it the “drivers” using auto-park features which crashes the “car” through a bush, nearly bumping my (parked) car (that was actually scary to watch), unproven and unfinished security features kicking in or the “car” just breaking down (speeding up uncontrollably, steering wheel breaking off, etc.). All of those are things Tesla’s death machines do, that others don’t. I feel safer in a 20 year old Ford or a VW T1 Bus than I would in a Tesla.
Whenever i see one I have no choice but to yell out “elon musk is a fucking cunt” at the top of my lungs. And it really sucks because i hate saying that chud’s name and prefer to call him “space karen”
clearly intentional explosion by somebody
I was trying to figure this out myself, since the article I saw mentioned fireworks. Are there better details somewhere?
can Tesla just unlock any of their vehicles remotely and access all the camera footage on it
Yes, the first one is arguably a service, but the second one is a problem
Tesla employees passed around videos taken in car owners’ private garages and other interesting recordings captured by the cameras built in to the company’s vehicles, Reuters reported today. “We could see them doing laundry and really intimate things. We could see their kids,” according to one of nine former employees who told the news agency about the practice.
I don’t trust Elon, so I don’t trust Tesla. If I would get one for free, I would immediately sell it. I’m not against electric cars in general by the way.
I don’t trust Elon, but I bought my Tesla before he unmasked himself, while I saw him as the guy who made electric cars cool and rockets reusable, and I still think it’s a good, well made, and reliable car
My trust is increased by the recalls the cybertruck has had, as it shows the company is responsive to problems and of course it’ll have problems being a new vehicle with a new battery using new technology.
So sure Musk sucks, but I still like the cars and rockets
I don’t like JK Rowling either, but the Harry Potter stories are fine
I also liked very much what was going on in the beginning, same as you. I don’t want to Tesla shame anybody, sorry about that.
No worries mate, the rabid anti Tesla people are out in force at the moment spinning bullshit so I have been a bit touchy
The car would lock shortly after it’s key RFID card was removed from it’s reader or phone key went out of range or offline
They can always be opened from inside either electronically or manually
I’m pretty sure the vehicle’s warranty was voided when the driver detonated a bomb in the cargo area and shot himself, and they’re not telling us whether it was the blast disturbing the key card or the fire deactivating the phone key, anyway it’s interesting the vehicle could be remote unlocked after that blast and fire
Wait, so after it exploded it was still working enough for Tesla to remotely open the doors and download the camera footage?
Why is it recording the passengers and why does tesla have remote access?
Every car brand does this. Tesla is pretty close to unique in allowing owners to opt out, but nearly no one does
Tesla uses attentiveness data as part of their safety assessment of drivers for setting premiums for Tesla insurance as well as to ensure the driver is watching the road while the car is driving itself
Perhaps so. I’ve only driven old second hand cars that have no smart features, and lesson cars that had the cameras removed. That’s unfortunate to hear
Teslas always are, not even joking. It’s supposed to ensure the drivers are “attentive”, but it is angled to record the entire interior/ “cabin”.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-682FF4A7-D083-4C95-925A-5EE3752F4865.html
I hope taping over them does not turn off the car
Obstructing the cabin camera will cause the car to periodically “nag” the driver to apply torque to the steering wheel while the automatic steering system is engaged, depending on the vehicle’s speed
Ahh, ye fair enough. I think that’s a better indicator of the driver being awake than a camera.
If I have learned anything about safety features. They probably do.
If that’s the case, I wonder how tesla is going to defend knowingly selling a vehicle that leads to innattention
God only knows, I’m just impressed it still functioned after exploding.
A very decent sardine can
We need more well built fridges
The computers and telemetry systems aren’t near the part that exploded. Assuming they failed at all, they (and the vehicle itself) probably would’ve remained functional for a while after the blast
Won’t it be difficult to prove that this is due to terrorism since Cybertrucks have a habit of exploding all on their own?
Do they? Or is that just an extension of the right wing rumor that EVs explode more often than gas cars?
Cybertrucks are super fucking shitty, but for a lot of other reasons. Shitty to no QA, panels that are not properly attached, incredibly low visibility (even for a truck), undersized drive train components, and low actual utility to name a few. Oh, and everything that Elon is
I do not know the actual answer to this, but I can definitely see a potential causal link between “shitty to no QA” and battery fires
It was a bit of a rhetorical question. EV fires are way less common than gas car fires.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/electric-car-fire-statistics.html
Also, CATL makes most of Tesla’s batteries, so they are subject to more QA than Tesla, though some are assembled in Nevada.
Bottom line, make fun of Tesla for the actual shitty things they do, don’t perpetuate unfounded rumors
Car bomb attacks are also exceedingly rare. I personally think the odds are an even split both ways.
Either way, it’s truly despicable that the doors auto-locked during it, and I think Tesla needs to answer to an investigation on that one.
Tesla doors lock when a key* has been disconnected for a short time while parked
* a key being a phone via Bluetooth, an RFID card, or a dongle. The card is disconnected if removed from the reader area (such as by a bomb going off). Phones are disconnected if too far away or if the phone or Bluetooth are turned off, dongles are disconnected if moved too far away or destroyed, for example by that bomb or the fire
The vehicle is most likely set to unlock in a collision, but in this case it was parked so it’s normal for it to lock when the key is not detected, that’s how “walk away lock” works
Then put a fire sensor in the car to keep the door’s unlocked. I don’t know, but the fact it stayed locked may have cost the driver their life. I personally think it was a dickhead with a bunch of fireworks planning on a BBQ out in the desert (propane tanks) or something.
That really isn’t the point. It could be 50/50 for this incident, but EVs (and as much as I hate saying something good about Tesla), even Teslas, don’t have a track record of blowing up. Plus the gas and fireworks in the back say intention. Maybe earlier than intended, but carrying that much flammable cargo is a fire waiting to happen
Absolute agreement here.
Just want to plug https://www.evfiresafe.com/ as experts on the matterThe Cybertruck is very much an actual shitty thing that Tesla does. Sure, maybe they don’t literally “have a habit of exploding all on their own,” but I don’t think Gork was exactly trying to play off as an authority on the topic. Just mocking Cybertrucks being shit.
Nobody’s attacking EVs writ large, here. Just Elon and his awful ideas.
Sure, I get that, but it still plays into the EV hate. I know they aren’t the single solution, they are a part of a bigger strategy. Just hate to see bad information spread, even through jokes.
I’m orange pilled so I agree it’s bad, but I can’t see anything but aesthetics that makes it any worse than any other light truck commonly used as urban transport.
Sure Musk inspired it and set its target specifications and price, but it was Tesla engineers who designed it, Tesla factory workers who built it and Musk’s companies don’t seem to have suffered from his fall from popularity
Have you read news stories about the truck? Here’s one https://www.torquenews.com/17612/my-cybertruck-dead-tesla-cannot-open-it-they-dont-know-what-happened-it-feels-without-power and there’s so many more
If I wasn’t just so very, very tired, I would find amusement in how this story is going back and forth. “Haha, cybertruck exploded! Stupid Elon!” “Oh, it had a bomb, it was a deliberate explosion. And the cybertruck’s structure stopped anyone outside it from getting hurt…” silence “Ah! It auto-locked, something about cybertruck we can criticize! Stupid Elon!”
And people complain about the “tribalism” in politics these days.
I think that it is a complex situation that people are trying to distill down into internet takes. It is frustrating, but understandable.
And the cybertruck’s structure stopped anyone outside it from getting hurt…
The reason nobody outside was hurt was because there wasn’t really anyone around to get hurt. The video shows a pretty sizeable explosion that would’ve likely killed someone standing close by.
I don’t think the Cybertruck did any better than other cars in that respect. Not worse either btw.
There was someone just inside the glass doors the truck was parked in front of, you can see them just moments from coming outside through them in the security cam footage.
Can I see a source to that? I have not heard about anything that would confirm what you are saying.
A habit? The are 27 thousand of them, can you find ten that have spontaneously exploded?
Serious answer: The front doors have easily accessible manual releases. Unless there is damage to the door frame/mechanism, it is trivial to get out of a Tesla with no power. These work even if the door is locked, since the lock is implemented in software
the lock is implemented in software
things that are such absurd design failures it’s hard to say with a straight face
I don’t see that as a design failure. I actually really like them. Electronic door controls both inside and out, plus a mechanical backup only inside. It’s not a perfect design, but neither are mechanical door controls. It’s also not unique to Tesla: many other cars have electronic door actuators with software locks
other modern cars doing bad design is a known problem yes. im just hearing described differences but no benefits personally.
Too bad those “easily accessible manual releases” aren’t the actual door handle and are hidden so well you’d never find them if you were unfamiliar with the vehicle.
They’re right in front of the window switches, and in my experience, unfamiliar passengers are more likely to use the manual door release than the actual door button. They’re actually too easy to find, in my opinion, but that’s probably for the best
They shouldn’t be separate in the first place. It’s just bad design that’s prone to failure. And in this case that failure mode is VERY far from failsafe, it’s potentially deadly.
What if you’re on fire?
There’s nothing special about the Tesla door in that regard, so it is possible for it to become mechanically warped/obstructed in an accident or fire just like any other car door
It’s promising that a cybertruck can go through that and still be remote unlocked
2025 didn’t exactly open as the most vehicle-friendly year.
