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    “At least democrats are openly evil marxist traitors”

    Mother fucker, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS CRAP!! un-fucking-believable!

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      Mother fucker, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS CRAP!! un-fucking-believable!

      Hahaha but that’s when they say “oh he was just trolling” or “wow, you liberals can’t even tell he was joking!”

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      I thought the whole point was that the dems are liars and the reps just openly say “how it is”. Nothing changed, MAGA did not change their rhetoric. I’d really like to know what goes on in their heads.

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          That GIF is honestly too flattering. More like a child curled up in the fetal position, quivering like leaf, holding a loaded gun, sweating profusely, thinking everything from a housefly to a mote of dust is a’ginnim

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      Their entire echo chamber is paid to say that over and over and over so it just becomes reality to them. I explained to a coworker that basically anyone that even slightly understands Marxism hears the right say that nonsense and it sounds like if I were to say “Donald Trump is a vegan organic farmer.”

      It’s the same category as “woke” like this book:

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        Hallmark of brainwashing. Bypass critical thinking with vague statements of the outsiders “evil”, but keeps followers from actually thinking about what they are saying with those statements.

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          Damn trannies, ruining women’s sports (that I don’t watch anyway). How would you like it if a female you knew had to use a bathroom with a …. Woman?

          That’s why I like electric vehicles: no damn trannies. Gasoline engines are so woke! Wait ……

          /s

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      I looked it up and see, “Marxism is an economic and political theory that examines the flaws inherent in capitalism. It’s primarily based on the work of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. 1. Marxist theories were influential in the development of socialism, which advocates for the shared ownership of the means of production by workers”

      … That sounds like it aligns with how I see it. I like to examine the flaws in capitalism and I don’t think that we, as a group, are benefitting from once CEO per company making an ass load of money via greed. Am I Marxist or no?

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        Don’t confuse “post-Marxist understanding” with “being a Marxist.”

        Marx defined and described an ontology that even his opponents use as tools to describe the economy - but it wouldn’t make sense to call opponents of Marx as ‘Marxists’ would it?

        Just examining flaws in and of itself isn’t socialism, although arguably saying capitalism has no flaws is pro-capitalist.

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        Instead of checking a dictionary, do you want to ask actual Marixists what they think of the Democratic Party? You can find plenty of them around here. They tend not to have anything nice to say about the Democrats, and would be insulted at the comparison.

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          The down votes indicate that. I’m not really understanding so I’m ready to just accept the hate and move on. 🤷

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            You have to pass the right gatekeepers to be Marxist because if there’s one thing Marxists don’t want is people on their side who don’t necessarily agree with 100% of every economic idea from one dude a century ago… Apparently

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            It’s because it’s very reductive and weird to look at this one-line definition and ask if you’re a Marxist. You’re not automatically Christian just because you like giving to the poor and you saw on Wikipedia that Christianity gives to the poor, there’s a lot more to it. You’re a Marxist if you look up Marx’s theory and decide you agree with all (maybe most) of it. There’s a spectrum greater than not liking CEOs making money before asking if you’re a Marxist, a Communist, or just a Libertarian.

            Don’t let that stop you if you want to learn more about it to see if you still like it.

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          I’m starting to like those ideas… don’t threaten me with a good time. (Can’t be worse than the global oligarchy we currently have).

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          I believe a limit on capital may better serve the citizens, or maybe a markup maximum? Maybe not having 30% APR as an allowable finance charge.

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            Or maybe when you reach $1B we take away all your money, maybe name a park after you, and put a little gold star on your ID and license plate so everyone can know you’re on New Game+ and are super good at capitalism. Then they can show everyone how it’s done by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and proving they got rich through hard work and talent rather than luck and exploitation.

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      “he literally is going to enrich himself at our expense and do nothing to help you. Nothing but lies to get elected.”

      “I mean sure, he’ll throw us all under the bus for a buck, but I can’t vote for the Demonrats they kill babies to make the bindings for Das Capital, they facefuck Santa Claus, and they just legalized beating white Christian men with discarded genitalia from gender surgery for the sin of being conservative. It’s mandatory in Commifornia now. Don’t you even pay attention to Reality™©®!? Sean Hannity said so which means it’s 100% TRUE! It’s like all you do is watch biased media! Sean Hannity says that we conservatives need to work together to get Republicans in office so obviously he’s not biased, he’s one of us!”

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        “my mind generates words to say that make me win every encounter”

        “I must fully understand psychology for it is impossible for others to be wrong – perhaps it’s my understanding of the cosmos. Perhaps they are victims of a grand campaign of misinformation. Nobody would disagree if we had the same facts, right? I must retreat to my haven in the mountains and meditate of mankind.”

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      People are primarily driven by emotion. Some people almost exclusively so.

      You can’t really convince people of things with facts and figures. That’s like trying to heat your bedroom by making a bonfire down the street.

      We’re all emotional, and all of us sometimes follow our feelings over more rational motivations. But a lot of people are pretty much all emotion, and they vote for bad policy.

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        People are primarily driven by emotion

        Some people are driven by emotion, some driven by facts and logic. The balance has shifted to the “poorly educated” who are helpless against Putin’s psyops and Republican manipulation - “They are eating the cats”, indeed.

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          I think it’s important to recognize none of us are immune to emotion. We’re not Vulcans. Some people are a little better about keeping them in balance, but even that depends on factors like “did you get enough sleep?” and “do you feel secure and safe?”

          If you stress anyone out long enough they’re going to become more emotional driven and less coolly rational.

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            Even Vulcans can be emotional depending upon their health and other circumstances. Vulcans still have emotions, they’ve simply learned to keep them in check (pretty effectively most of the time).

            The human race can do this too, but we’re nowhere near ready.

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      How did the conversation actually go? Because my immediate question would have been “why was that your deciding factor?”

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    Grandpa was crying about losing his workforce at the factory due to border laws.

    Oh sorry did the consequences of your vote come sooner than you thought?

    Dumb cunt

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      “I didn’t think stopping immigration and deporting immigrants would mean not getting more immigrants to work and deporting MY workforce!”

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    I’m curious what Trump lie led to this

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    This small vocal fraction of MAGA on social media is so insignificant and irrelevant to most of the people who voted for Trump. There’s absolutely no chance my dumbass aunt is aware of any of this.

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      Because while liberals have a vague, uselessly imprecise understanding of what some unimportant words mean, like liberal and socialist, the conservative base holds knowing things in active contempt and the leadership likes to keep them that way.

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    I wish the finding out phase were only this bad, tbh. The real shit goes down starting in at least 23 days and only gets worse after that.

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    The full scale of the finding out part will occur in 2028. Yes, the USA is going to be a massive train wreck with Putin’s Sock Puppet increasing socialism to cover up his failures. For example, farm subsidies in 2017 were around $7 billion and in 2020, he nailed $23 billion. The abused Payment Protection Plan…$953 billion down the drain. We’ll see if the Louisiana bird flu really mutates and busts out of the red run turd hole.

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    Openly evil Marxist traitors.

    As opposed to the guys doing a bait and switch right? No betrayal there…

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    This is the perfect opportunity. MAGAs have been betrayed by their leader, and their leader (Musk) is inviting dozens of scabs from other countries to do what would otherwise be high paying jobs for peanuts.

    We can turn the Left Vs. Right Dichotomy into a Rich Vs. Poor one. Much better odds

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      The people at fox “news” won’t do that, they’re the rich and paid by other rich people, and the MAGA masses are too brainwashed by them to listen to anyone else

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        The convince them that Faux Noise is bad, but word it in a way they’ll listen that doesn’t just sound like “Lib whining” or “Nerd shit”