This new bill, signed into law by President Joe Biden, includes a provision that limits access to gender-affirming care services for the children of people serving in the military.

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    3 days ago

    MAYBE FIGHT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BILL THEN

    We know they didn’t remove it from the bill. We don’t know that they didn’t fight to remove it from the bill. We do know that they objected and negotiated it down for what it originally was. We also know that passing no bill would be worse, even for any children impacted by the coverage restrictions.

    Out magazine isn’t blowing things out of proportion to harm the Democrats.

    My comments were directed at the summary more than the article. The article does have some of the same flaws though.

    The HRC, GLAAD, and ACLU aren’t just making up things in their head.

    I hope they are clear eyed about who is responsible. I don’t think it likely that they would blame Democrats and ignore the Republicans who pushed it.

    Your capitulating ass doesn’t get to decide when LGBTQ people are allowed to get upset

    I made no objection to anyone being upset. It absolutely sucks that this was included and I’ll fight right along side you to get it changed. We should all be upset. But, we are in a split power situation with the Democrats seriously weakened after the election. That’s going to have consequences, and I’m afraid this was the tip of the iceberg. No President with a split Congress has ever been able to control everything in every piece of legislation they sign. That’s just not reality.

    YOU, who is postulating on complex negotiations behind closed doors.

    Postulating that negotiations happened, or what happened in those negotiations? We know the negotiations happened, and we know that early drafts were worse on this and other Republican culture war issues. Beyond that, I don’t claim to know anything, but you seem to. It was you who postulated that they didn’t try to remove it.

    Maybe in the near future we’ll learn something about the negotiations that will change my opinion. Maybe the Democrats traded this to the Republicans in exchange for more pork for blue states or more bombs for Israel. Are you aware of any such dealings?

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      Oh my god you fucking apologists. Every assumption of Democrats giving 110% good faith efforts with NO EVIDENCE they did so and the temerity to act offended that they receive flak for failing. They had veto points all along the path. They had an amendment to remove it that wasn’t even voted for. They had a broad array of civil rights organizations tell them to stand up for one of the most vulnerable populations in the entire country. And Biden for sure had no excuse because he was a single decision point. This isn’t “make M4A happen by executive fiat” it’s “maintain the status quo”. That was entirely within their power. They just didn’t want to.

      HRC, GLAAD, and ACLU aren’t the problem. The “white moderates” with every excuse for why the minorities must sacrifice and backsliding is actually peak performance are.