• brsrklf@compuverse.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      56
      ·
      1 year ago

      Somehow Windows has always been and is still crap at managing archives. Ultra-slow, has trouble opening or extracting individual files inside the archive, etc.

      However, 7-zip has been doing all that perfectly forever now. Not sure why anyone would use WinRAR, paid for or not.

      • kautau@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Even 7Zip now though is insecure and outdated. Use NanaZip if you’re on windows, it’s a fork that is more secure and uses modern compression/encryption algorithms in addition to integrating better with current Windows APIs

        https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

      • XTornado@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah maybe isn’t great but I admit that be able to use the open file window from a program and select a file inside a compressed file is nice.

      • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        WinRAR is an internet institution at this point. It’s like Amtrak, why would anyone ride the train when there are better cheaper and faster modes of transport? Don’t know but people do anyway

        • LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          What? Amtrak is great for specific use cases. For intrastate travel in the US, Amtrak often is the fastest, cheapest, most comfortable experience.

          Oddly, going two states over, it’s often the slowest and most expensive, but for mid haul distance, Amtrak is fantastic.

          • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            That’s kind of my point that WinRAR has its limited use cases like Amtrak does although majority of the time it’s more efficient to use something else

    • HeneryHawk@thelemmy.club
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      On a very very rare occasion I’ve had to use it for scene cracks as other apps didn’t work. They use WinRAR to archive it so on those very rare occasions it’s the only thing that unpacks it

    • ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I bought a lifetime license literally more than 20 years ago to support the developer. I use 7Zip for most stuff but prefer WinRAR for split rar archive support.

    • severien@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      That’s, quite ironically, a pretty ignorant opinion. There are areas where WinRAR is stronger than 7zip.

      • kattenluik@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        The person you replied to never mentioned 7-Zip, and there’s forks and other programs that are probably just as strong in the same areas.

        • severien@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          “probably”

          The commenter implied that there’s a tool which is better than WinRAR in everything and therefore there can’t possibly be a reason to use WinRAR. Which application is it then?

          • kattenluik@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I’d need to know the areas you consider 7-Zip to be stronger in first, because I can’t think of anything myself.

            • severien@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              As an example, RAR provides parity records which allows recovery of large amounts of compressed data in case of data corruption. 7zip can lose all its content if one bit is flipped.

              RAR provides much more support for underlying file system support which makes it more suitable as an archival tool. Things like NTFS hard links, streams, ACLs, all three timestamps. 7zip doesn’t support that.

              WinRAR in general has way more niche features for advanced use cases, while 7zip focuses on the basics.

  • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    1 year ago

    However, from a practical perspective, deceiving users into performing the required action shouldn’t be overly challenging, and given the vast size of WinRAR’s user base

    Excuse me, but “vast” size of WinRAR’s user base? I didn’t know WinRAR even had any users left.

    • kuneho@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      1 year ago

      9 out of 10 people I know use WinRAR. It’s amongst the very firsr software they install at fresh start.

      I myself also just changed to 7-Zip around… I don’t know, a year ago?

      • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        1 year ago

        Which part of the world is this, if you don’t mind me asking? (just genuinely curious, cause I haven’t come across any WinRARs in the wild here in NZ, most folks I know use either 7-Zip or PeaZip).

        • kuneho@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          I’m from Europe, in the embrace of the Carpathian Mountains :)

          before WinRAR, people used WinZIP here in the '00s (at least Windows folks). Again, a strange choice, I know.

        • KnightontheSun@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          Am in the US and used winrar for a long time as it was integrated into Usenet binaries as rar files. It was embedded with some other software.

    • Mr. w00t@lemy.lol
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      Well, even FAR manager which they’ve open-souced long time ago is still maintained 😀 Good thing they didn’t discover this bug in 2000s!

      • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        That looks quite interesting, seems like they’ve even got quite an extensive list of plugins - looks like may be even better than Midnight Commander. :o

      • kuneho@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Ah, FAR manager.

        I used it last time around… 15 years ago to apply VKP patches on my Sony Ericsson phones :P like making my K750i into a ‘W750i’ with W800i software, adding GFX and Acoustic patches…

    • _Hadek@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      This!

      I used winrar at first, but never truly trusted 7zip. Didn’t like the way it looked. Then first time I learned about ninite, I saw peazip and never looked back.

      With the soon to be supported .rar on windows 11 I might do away with it but I feel peazip works faster.

      • Echedelle (she/her)
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        They are basically a vitamined frontend + custom backend for 7zip-zstd supporting several other formats such as lzip.

        • I need NOS@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Thanks! I’ve been happy with 7-Zip for Windows, but what you’re describing sound like an upgrade with few downsides, if any. I’ll try it next time I get the chance!

      • FarLine99@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        It support zip, rar, 7z. Basically all archive formats. It has way better UI. It is open source. It is free in beer.

        • AProfessional@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          It is open source. It is free in beer.

          It is free as in speech. Your phrase refers to proprietary yet no cost software.

          • FarLine99@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Free as in freedom is not a big argument for most people. But as in beer 😏