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    I remember seeing someone get a callout post on Twitter for saying they don’t see an ethical problem with cannibalism if it’s consensual. That’s all they said, and they got dogpiled so hard that they apologized and went to therapy for their “unnatural thoughts”, and the callouts continued.

    Unless several Twitter users plan to give them unrestricted access to their corpse soon, I don’t see why that’s callout-worthy.

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      I don’t just not see an ethical problem with it if it’s consensual. I’d argue it’s the most ethical way to eat meat in that case. We do horrible things to animals without their consent. If someone consents to being eaten, that must be more ethical.

      You can argue it’s disgusting or something, but if you’re arguing with ethics as the basis, consensual cannibalism has to be better than eating other animal meat.

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    If I’m dead, I absolutely would have no quarrels with people eating my body. Nothing to complain about since I hold no beliefs that when I die, my body needs to be intact for me to go to a heaven like place.

    Also, who cares what any family members would think. It’s my body, not theirs. If I don’t mind people nibbling on my corpse, then I’d hope any family that cares about me is able to respect that wish.

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      To be fair, if you’re dead you’ll have no quarrels with anything. I understand what you mean though. You have no quarrels now if someone eats you when you die.

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    ey gonna be honest, i wouldn’t want to eat human flesh, even when im starving.

    however if my dead body can save someone’s live then they gotta do what they gotta do. it’s not like i need it anymore

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    If anyone wants to kill and eat me, go right ahead

    It’ll be nicer than dying alone and having my body rot in my apartment till someone eventually checks on me

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    idk man I think the mental gymnastics go the other way around here. You have to make a shit load of assumptions to consume human flesh safely and ethically:

    • the person being eaten consents to their body being eaten
    • the person has no family or each and every one of their relatives consents and is totally ok with their loved one’s body ending up in a casserole
    • the person has no diseases that can be transmitted by consuming some or all parts of their body: prion disease (brain), AIDS, hepatitis and loads other blood-transmitted illnesses, to name a few obvious ones
    • there are no drugs or medications in the person’s body that could be absorbed into your system (regurgitated meth, yummy!)
    • you have the means to effectively and safely process or cook the body yourself or we set up an entire new industry around mass human body consumption which sounds like the plot of a Stephen King novel tbh

    As some have pointed out here, if eating human meat is your only available choice in an extreme life-or-death survival situation, it would have to do, but unless you also have the means to carve up and cook the body, you’re actually going to consume more energy digesting the raw flesh than what you’re getting in return. Humans make for rather poor food overall, that’s a fact. I would back this up with some evidence but I don’t feel like being put on a list for looking up the nutritional contents of human bodies lol

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      I don’t care for cannibalism but the second bullet doesn’t sit right with me. I always wanted to be composted. My family will hate that, but I don’t think it’s their choice.

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      the person has no family or each and every one of their relatives consents and is totally ok with their loved one’s body ending up in a casserole

      Assuming your first condition is already met then nah, a person’s own wishes as regards their own body ought to supersede those of anyone else

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    Prions are a big problem for cannibalism since they resist high temperature. So they’re still deadly even if the “meat” is well cooked. That said, Bones And All was a great film about cannibalism. And it was romantic, in a fucked-up way.

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      Dead bodies make for poor meat the longer it rests. Which is why people don’t really eat roadkill. Unless they are looking for brain worms like RFK.

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        I know several people who will take roadkill if they can confirm the freshness by either witnessing the accident or knowing that the kill recently appeared. I myself almost took a deer once. It was a cold night and the deer wasn’t on the corner at midnight. But it was there at 6am while still cold outside. If I had the time and space id have likely brought it home to at least assess the meat.

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    Heh, my partner and I have already had the, “I don’t seek it out, but if we’re life-and-death stranded and you go first, sorry, you’re provisions now” conversation.

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    Prion diseases. Accumulation of different substances, like mercury, lead, strontium-90, and, a new contender to the list: micro plastics. And you’ll want to have a look at a person’s medication and likely want to make sure they’ve been off of it for a few days before consuming their flesh.

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      Farm animals are legally allowed to eat actual plastic, not only microplastics. If you’re afraid of microplastics or accumulation of substances maybe don’t eat meat.

      Legal limit of plastic in animal feed is 0.15% in the EU

      A cow eats 25kg of dry food a day

      25/100*0.15 = 0.0375kg = 37.5grams
      

      A plastic bag weighs 6-8grams.

      You are legally allowed to feed your cow 5 plastic bags a day (as a snack)

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        Bioaccumulation concentrates more pollutants the higher up the food chain you go. It is part of why most meat we eat comes from vegetarian animals. The fish we eat are often predatory so common advice is the keep the smaller and younger ones that are still big enough to be worth filleting. You don’t actually want to eat a trophy sized fish because they’ve accumulated more pollutants. Trophy sized fish are better off being realsed, they are often good breeders and help keep healthy population numbers.

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          Of course, something that eats cows that eat a shitton of plastic, will have even more plastic in it.

          But that doesn’t mean that it’s healthy to eat an animal that has been fed (assuming they are slaughtered at 3 years, and ignoring the climate impact, the ethics of slaughtering an animal in its youth, etc)…

          41 kg of plastic

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            I think if you don’t count the culling of baby calves the average age is ~6years so like 82kg of plastic.

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              Thanks for your feedback, I was guesstimating off the top of my head. On doing some research, I see meat cows are usually slaughtered at 18 months - 2 years old in the Netherlands.

              5-6 years is the number I see for dairy cows.

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      OK, mate, I have good news and bad news. The good news: we’re having a feast and you’re the guest of honour. The bad news: you need to stop taking your meds for a few days.

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        Yeah. Terrifying. Prion diseases are one of those things that I wish I had never learned about.

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          It’s a prion disease. I’m pretty sure it comes from eating the brain of someone who had it.

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            Yes, since its been eradicated, you cannot get it unless you eat a really old brain. You may get a differnt disease.

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      Honestly all that toxic shit is in our food already. There’s a reason it accumulated in the “victim” too.

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        The problem is bioaccumulation: taking in substances faster than you can metabolize and excrete them. Eating something that has already accumulated something is worse than accumulating it from the same original sources. That’s why you can do suicide by vitamin A poisoning by eating carnivore livers.

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          It’s also the case that when you’re eating plant-based foods, unlike meat and dairy products, you’re eating alpha- and beta-carotene and beta-cryptoxanthin, which your body can convert to Vitamin A and which don’t cause hypervitaminosis.

          So if you’re just learning “Oh, shit, Vitamin A can poison me”, don’t let that hold you back from squash, yams, carrots etc.

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      aren’t prion diseases usually just a thing for the brain? though I haven’t considered the medication aspect… I want to eat a human heart some day, any other things I’d need to consider? I guess I’ll just take the risk with the medications.

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        Misfolded proteins can occur everywhere it’s just more fatal if it happens in the brain.

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          While this is true, the main prion diseases that occur in humans do come specifically from neural matter.

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        the free meds are just a bonus ;3

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          the funny thing is I’m being entirely serious. I need a heart transplant and if I survive I want to turn my old heart into burgers and share them with my girlfriend and boyfriend.

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            Is there enough substance to turn it into burgers, plural? An average human heart is, what, fist-sized I think? Seems to me like you’d get one, maybe one and a half patties out of that, no? And you probably can’t even use all of it, I’d assume.

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              A pure heart burger probably wouldn’t be good anyways. You could mix it with another meat

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            That’s why I eat lots of chicken from the worst methods of rearing when having an infection: cheap antibiotics.

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        aren’t prion diseases usually just a thing for the brain?

        Don’t you want to eat the crispy thinking bacon? Your loss. Next thing you’re telling me you don’t want to eat the testicles …

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    My main gripe is that humans don’t have much meat on them. It works in a pinch, but the effort needed to eat so far outside of our normal pallette isn’t worth it.

    That said, I would be in favor of letting nature decompose our bodies more. I hate having to waste so much effort on disposing of bodies, especially once I die. I want my body to get torn apart by animals, not buried with holy rites. Mummification is the only burial practice that seems kinda cool. Cremation seems unnecessary, especially if I can get eaten by something instead. Just take what’s useful, chop me up a bit, and throw me in the compost!

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        That can kinda be arranged, actually. Something that came up during one of Caitlin Doughty’s videos is a nature preserve type place in Florida that they protect by burying people there to decompose naturally. I’m not going to look for more info about this on Christmas though, lol.

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        Just gotta find a location to build a big tower where there are vultures