This is a post I originally made on my #calckey account, but I think it belongs here too.

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The more I use different #fediverse apps, the more I feel that we are on the edge of a different future, in the early stages of something that we haven’t seen before.

In the last few months, I’ve used #Mastodon, #Misskey, #Calckey, #Funkwhale, #lemmy, #Peertube, #Bookwyrm and #Pixelfed. Soon, I’m going to try an install of #kbin. In the not too distant future, we will see #GreatApe bringing more options for video chat to the Fediverse. There are countless more platforms that I haven’t had a chance to try.

The network formed by the interconnections between those apps is the Fediverse; a Federated Universe. Federated, because everything out there is connected with everything else, in one giant network. What I am truly beginning to appreciate is just how real that vision is, and just how disruptive to our future it’s going to be. More than a truism, these the fediverse platforms really will allow us to see and interact with nearly anything else out there.

The platform we use no longer determines the information we can access; it doesn’t build walls around us. Instead, what out choice of platform determines, is how we interact with information, rather than determining what information we are able interact with in the first place. The walls in the walled garden haven’t so much been torn down, as simply never built.

I can write a blog post, and someone on Mastodon can reply to it. I can make a group post on lemmy, and someone from Calckey can reply to it. I can see an awesome photo on Pixelfed, bring it in to #Akkoma and boost it for everyone else to see. And then anyone who sees it can interact with it.

The cross platform interactions are still imperfect. Standards are still being developed, code is still being written and features are still being defined, but the future is right here, we are on the cusp of something new and amazing.

Of course, this is all old news to someone who has been part of the fediverse for years now, but it feels different now. The momentum is here, we are seeing a shift and I think once we cross that precipice, once we have normalised the cross channel interactions we are starting to develop, it’s going to be very hard to go back.

Honestly, I can’t wait.

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@ada I’m seeing this from my own Friendica instance running on a little Raspberry Pi on my home network. I rather like this vision of the future. It’s awakening the spirit I remember from the home computer revolution of the 80s!

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Yes, exactly!

I’m honestly kind of tired of that word “disruptive” being used as if it’s a good thing. “Disruption” as an end gave us the utter dirtbags of Facebook, Twitter, Uber, Amazon, and a whole host of other scummy tech outfits. It’s time to retire that term into the pile of “words used only by assholes”.

@ada @ttmrichter #disruptive sucks. Ten people have at least twelve interpretations of its meaning.
I suggest #orthogonal. This way all the dirtbags would be busy looking it up in the dictionary before they use it.

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What word would you use?

It depends.

If it’s being used by the techbrodude community, let’s just call it what it is: sociopathic.

If it’s being used by actual human beings, perhaps “new and interesting”.

Ada
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But what about when it’s the former reshaping a status quo established by the former? That’s more than “new and interesting”

Sociopaths disrupting sociopaths? Where I come from that’s called two things:

  1. Poetic justice.
  2. A shit-show best kept faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from.

How’s about this as a notion, though: stop worshipping techbrodudes and other sociopaths and instead start getting the kindling built up under the stakes for them?

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I am so confused by your comment. What I’m saying is that the fediverse is currently being used by “actual human beings” and they are reshaping a status quo established by tech dudes.

That’s the disruption I’m referring to. What I’m asking you is what do you call it when the small instance admins, the indie developers, etc, reshape the environment from underneath the techbros? If you wouldn’t call that disruption, what is it? 'cause it’s not just “new and interesting”. It’s more than tat

No. It really isn’t. This desire to use the language of sociopaths is itself dangerous. Call it what it is: new. And interesting.

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I’m not sure how a word is the language of sociopaths…

And new and interesting doesn’t do it justice in my opinion. It’s more than that

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No offense, but I think you are missing the point a bit.

The cross posting functionality of the Fediverse is nice, yes; but in the grand scheme of things (and for most people to be honest) it doesn’t make a real difference. You can easily make a free account on most commercial social network sites as well and almost even use them as if they were one using delegated authorization systems like Oauth2. You are not really being locked in, but of course they will try to make it hard for you to leave, but that’s mostly just the network effects and convenience.

There is of course a reason why it still makes sense to federate, and that is to join forces to reach network effects similar to what you can find on the incumbent large commercial sites. The Fediverse is not quite there yet, but individual websites (like the old forums or blogs) would never get even close to offer similar network effects.

The real deal however is that you get to collectively own the social fabric you use daily, instead of it being operated by for-profit hell-holes that only see you as a product to sell to their advertisement customers. But this ownership comes with certain responsibilities, so you should start thinking about how you can help out with running fediverse sites or host your own 💗

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It’s not just cross posting. People can engage with lemmy content from mastodon accounts. Not just read it, but have real conversations. That’s not something that commercial social media allows you to do, even with Oauth. Oauth is using your single account as a key to multiple walled gardens, but the walls are still there.

But this ownership comes with certain responsibilities, so you should start thinking about how you can help out with running fediverse sites or host your own 💗

I am posting from my own lemmy instance, and I run a Calckey instance. Later today, I’m going to be looking at setting up a /kbin instance :)

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Excellent. Keep up the great work then 🤩

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