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Elon Musk expressed support for Germany’s far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on X, stating “Only the AfD can save Germany.”

Party leader Alice Weidel welcomed his endorsement, urging followers to review her criticisms of German politics.

The AfD, polling at 19% ahead of February’s federal election, is officially under scrutiny as an extremist group by German authorities.

Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label. Controversy surrounds the AfD, including links to a meeting discussing deportation of migrants.

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    Damn, so he’s just going to buy every government? I guess the first one was so cheap, he figures he can afford at least four or five more.

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      Didn’t his estimated wealth nearly double in the past couple years? He’s got enough money to buy all the governments at this point

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        They have been getting traction consistently and German politics moved significantly to the right over the past years. Now supposedly progressive parties like the social democrats and greens spout stuff that five years ago was exclusive to the AfD and maybe the fringes of the Bavarian CSU.

        Even if they don’t govern they get their way more and more, which helps normalising their positions more and more, which gives them more and more votes.

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      People have a real problem grasping the wealth of 500 Billion dollars. At the Median US household income it would take 12 years to make a million dollars; 1,200 years to make a hundred million dollars; 12,000 years to make a billion dollars; and 1.2 million years to make a 100 billion dollars.

      His wealth is essentially limitless. It is that of a moderate sized country like Norway or Israel. When he can have an effect with 100 million dollars he could influence 5,000 elections with 500 billion dollars. And that’s not even talking about his investments in social media, PR cult of personality, and straight up vote buying in broad daylight.

      I sincerely hope he and X end up banned from Europe, with a warrant out for his arrest in relation for doing this. Because America has proven unable to stop him. Another country might though if they come down hard on anyone accepting his money and as hard as they can on him without using their military.

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      Cheap? More like insanely profitable. It’s like any good business venture: you use your successes to expand.

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        Send him to the Mushroom Kingdom

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          Hopefully musk gets too close to Putin and finds himself “accidentally” falling out of a window

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            Joke all you want; the moment anyone involved in US politics get defenestrated there is going to be a whole lotta crazy. The thing to remember is that regular people don’t get to go near those windows.

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      I don’t understand this, while it’s obviously bad to have this situation, isn’t this the logical conclusion of the American political system?

      Lobbying has been a thing for decades, isn’t the logical conclusion that we get tyrants infiltrating the government?

      Clearly America has been working towards this for a long time.

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      I concur - someone should shoo him away (or at least downregulate him).

      Until that happens, companies that he owns can be boycotted in the faint hope that he understands something, but that kind of people, nah… they typically won’t.

      Once this episode is over - in whatever way - I even think we might see reforms in the US electoral system. To prevent an oligarch from buying everyone a crooked president.

      As for Germans, they will probably not appreciate his advise.

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    So, has Musk straight up admitted to being a white supremacist or has he only dropped anvil-sized hints so far?

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    Elon: “Why are they considered far-right? They don’t look far-right to me!”

    Also Elon: ⬅️-----------------------------🙋➡️

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      It’s pretty much comes down to

      Do they support trans people and trans rights?

      Yes: Woke mind virus.

      No: TAKE MY MONEY!

      That’s why he’s in right wing politics now, he’s said as much. His trans daughter, who he dead names, was “stolen” from him.

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        I highly doubt that he ever had a real connection to his children in the first place.

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          Well, he did use one of his kids as a human shield repeatedly when appearing in public after Luigi crossed one of their guys off the board. That’s kind of a connection?

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      As a believer in Horseshoe Theory (Just hang around a tankie long enough, you will too)

      I’m really hoping these people somehow wrap around to being left… I mean that won’t happen because the Horseshoe only bends one way, but damn.

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      AfD is cheering while the SPD’s thugs attack and arrest Jews calling for an end to Israeli terrorism.

      Not lookin’ good

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      I hear there are 3 or for 4 candidates for chancellor now one is a lesbian Nazi bitch living in Switzerland so no, no wehrhafte Demokratie.

      All candidates are not well liked in terms of approval ratings so hooray 2025.

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    Don’t the conservative bobbleheads talk about evil globalist conspiracies? Like, I found it right here for you guys! It was right in front of you the whole time!

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      In case you are unaware, when a racist says “globalist” they are not talking about worldwide events, the word “globalist” is a direct replacement for the word “Jew [derogatory]”.

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        Huh, guess I missed that dog whistle. I thought it was just the opposite of a “nationalist”, people who want to create a new world order and all that.

        I guess I’m not surprised they think it’s the Jewish people doing that, but didn’t think it was exclusive to them.

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          It’s a bit of both. They (often) think globalism is being pushed by the jews for the sake of… jews gaining power? The reason tends to change from person to person, but the point is they often think globalism is a Jewish plot.

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    The rest of the world might need to bring the US to heel. We’re exporting hate and racism as a means to build fascist states around the world. Our rich are so rich and protected by the US military that they are becoming untethered from all remaining constraints about law and sovereignty for other countries.

    Here be dragons.

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      Yeah it’s weird because you can both see Russia as an exporter of hate, but the US is on it too. I guess before late everyone will be on it.

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    Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label.

    Shut up Musk. Your countries political center (if it existed) would count as conservative in Germany.

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      Our political center is far right anywhere else. Democrats are right-leaning centrists and Republicans are literal Wolfenstein Nazis

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        Hey now dont insult the Nazis in Wolfenstein, they at least hated the Klan. Also at least one cared about his mecha dog, Hitler also shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.

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          shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.

          Please don’t abuse Arizonans they already abuse themselves by attempting to live on the actual surface of the Sun.

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            I will stop abusing Arizonans when the lot of them learn to fucken drive. If ya go to California the speed limit is 10 above posted unless there is a cop ya uncivilized curs!

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              Hilariously Arizonans are super afraid of the CHP. In Arizona all you hear is they’ll get you for speeding too fast. So they will drive 95 all the way to the state border and then do the exact speed limit in California. It’s also fun in reverse. I lived in Northern Arizona for a while and every time it snowed the tourists from California and Southern Arizona had no clue what to do in it. So many cars in snow banks, just so many. Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person in the American Southwest that knows what to do in Sand storms, Blizzards, and Thunder storms.

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                I have trialed by fire for sand, snow, and thunderstorms. Though I also drive a Cherokee so snow and more specifically black ice is a pain regardless.

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    Moderator warning: calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated is a violation of Lemmy.world ToS.

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      calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated

      Yeah but we can discuss it without saying it should happen, right? (not trying to be a dick about this, honestly)

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        Yes. That is fine. There’s a difference between saying “this sort of thing could lead to Elon being killed” and “Elon deserves a bullet in the head.” The issue is with the latter, which has been a big problem in this thread. It is not legal to do that in the Netherlands, where the server is based.

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      There was a time where the US were shooting Nazis instead of putting them in charge. Is it really bad to wish those times came back?

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        Just hop to another instance that doesn’t have the same difficulties as .world. Reddit 2.0 on Lemmy requires us to be compliant.

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          Or that user could just set up his own instance and face all the possible liability issues himself.

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            Exactly. A large portion of the .world user base is from North America and doesn’t realize .world isn’t based on the United States.

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    @MicroWave
    He is just pissed because a Union just sued his Tesla Gigafactory in Grünheide, so he goes crying to the ones most likely to make the boo boo go away if given power.

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    on the same day that an anti islam afd supporter committed a terrorist attack on a christmas market even

    elon sure can pick them

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        I know far-right extremists aren’t the sharpest bunch or the most well-adjusted but I’m trying and failing to understand the reasoning behind ramming a christmass market as an anti-Islam action.

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          It seems like he had a lot of trouble with state agencies and the justice system lately. He probably snapped and just wanted to hurt people. I don’t think this was an action that was supposed to send a message beyond “the system broke me so everyone must suffer”

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          Maybe to increase religious tensions? He was very anti-muslim, and hated germany for enabling “islamization of europe”.

          So probably in his mind, if he, being saudi, were to attack a christian related event just before the election, it would snowball into some anti-muslim winning election thus him getting what he wanted.

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        The site doesnt load for me but afaik it was a 50 year old doctor from saudi arabia that committed the attack. Allegedly, he was unhappy with the treatment oft refugees.

        Also, it would make little sense for someone whos pro-afd to attack a Christmas market

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          He had a website to help women escape Saudi arabia, due to state oppression. He had issues with German state not doing much to stop the spread of islam in germany. He claimed Germany is enabling “islamization of europe”.

          For context, in may 2024 there was a anti-islam rally, and a refugee tried to attack them and ended up attacking a police officer and killing him. This culminated in a historic rise of anti-islam and anti-immigrant AfD. And they won the state election in Thuringia in September.

          Germany currently has federal elections in February, this attack was an attempt to incite anti-islam sentiment again just before the election.

          He was pro-immigrant for ex-muslims, but anti-immigrant for muslim ones (which happen to be the majority).

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            I am german, so I am well aware of the entire situation here.

            However, I don’t feel you can call someone pro-AfD simply because he was opposed to islam. Again, someone who was pro-AfD wouldn’t have chosen to attack a christmas market, but instead a mosque or something.

            If I look through my political beliefs, there are very likely a few things in the AfD manifesto that I agree with. That doesn’t make me pro-AfD. Just as there will be a few things in the green party manifesto I agree with, which does not make me pro-green.

            Calling him pro-AfD is a fairly disgusting attempt of framing imo.

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    Are we allowed to discuss the many many benefits that society might receive if Elon Musk were in fact assassinated?

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      I’d be, with extremely little resistance, willing to listen to your argument. Tread heavily if you dare.

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    So Musk really is just going full Bond-esk super villain with world domination right? That’s what this is? He doesn’t have to win any election so long as he can just buy every government, which he can then ensure he owns all the money, to buy more…

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      See, this is why I don’t mind George Soros, a billionaire, is funding left wing causes. Too much of the rich class is disproportionately funding the right. Fight fire with fire.