The cops responded to a call saying “Yeah I think he’s here,” believed it and arrived in force within the time a person spends at a MacDonald (was the suspect playing in the ball pit?) and arrested him, finding the incriminating gun and silencer he had no reason to keep, along with a “manifesto”" which is a rarity among sane people but shooters have to have one according to cops?
Sounds reasonable.
I’m not normally one for conspiracy theories, but there’s a massive motivation for the US government to find anyone who looks about right and is disgruntled and then frame them, or plant evidence on someone they found through an illegal means. The US surveillance state uses parallel construction all the time to hide the actual (often illegal) ways they find someone.
Plus, if you don’t have a suspect, the message to all the proles out there is that you can kill CEOs and get away with it. The internet just showed that the only reason the working class aren’t doing The Purge on CEOs is fear of consequences. That’s a critical threat to the ruling class, and they will 100% frame, pay to take the fall or blackmail someone into it rather than not convict somebody.
It doesn’t line up at all that he brought a handwritten copy of his manifesto plus his fake IDs and his recently used murder weapon to a Macdonalds. Especially after being careful about escaping the city, and the amount of practice he had to smoothly clear the jams when he shot Thompson shows this was premeditated.
Unless he takes the jury stand and uses it to verbally blast the ruling class and try to incite more violence, this ain’t the shooter IMO.
Jfc I am so tired of conspiracies asserted so confidently anytime anything interesting happens. Can y’all just wait for like two goddamn seconds for information to come out instead of letting XXpatriotXx or whoever on YouTube and tiktok whip y’all up into a frenzy? Or are we all just going to start acting like tinfoil hat rightwingers desperately trying to make their lives sound more interesting?
Firstly, I haven’t been whipped up by anyone, I came up with that myself, before I read anything else.
Secondly, yeah, I was somewhat hasty.
Comments like yours are what lead people to behave that way man. I understand I’m coming off very harsh but I honestly think people need to take these things more seriously
I read a great comment the other day: “think about who your memes give ammo to.“ The same goes for conspiracy theories. You need to think about the audience that could be impacted by it, you are contributing to the cloud of misinformation.
Lemmites are the perfect demographic for brain rot conspiracies like this. The perfect combination of ego and below average intelligence.
Yup, and you fit right in with the rest of us!
Me to a T.
Theory I heard is that he wanted to be arrested, because he has a plan, maybe using court as a stage for making a public statement.
And that he may even tell the mcDonald worker to rat him out and collect the money.
Probably far from truth, but it would be cool if all that was true.
Only to have the reward money claim rejected because" without his tip they would have caught him anyway" or any other bullshit reason, just like insurance companies love to do. Oh the irony.
It was a McDonald’s customer who turned him in.(Edit: the article I read has been updated)But I can’t help but find the whole thing really suspicious. In his possession they found a gun, silencer, and three-page hand written manifesto.
Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone? That just feels hard to believe.
Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone? That just feels hard to believe.
The kind of person who writes a message on the bullet casing (and fully expects to get caught).
Also he had the same fake ID he used to check into the hostel? What the heck is this guy doing? While it seemed likely he would be caught eventually, disposing of the ID, his guns, the manifesto, and staying in his basement for a while would be by far the best course of action, not going to a McDonalds and eating it inside
He probably also had some copies of The Sims on him
This is the US, where people dont follow instructions like robots. He was actually found carrying three EA Game Cards.
Ahh. It’s in the game.
Signature unclear.
I understood that reference
I do not 😞
But I can’t help but find the whole thing really suspicious.
He was America’s Most On TV Human for the last week. I’m not shocked someone recognized him. And its not like he was picked off a bus in Manhattan at random. The guy was traced all the way to Pennsylvania.
He probably could have gotten away if he’d laid low for another week or two. But this absolutely sounds like a guy with some serious mental health issues who was not thinking ten steps ahead as everyone in the fandom wanted to believe. He was just some angry 20-year-old doing a more newsworthy version of a school shooting, not The Leftist Jackal plotting elaborate Mission Impossible style assassinations.
Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone?
The same kind of person who signs their bullet casings.
You’re not shocked someone saw someone and immediately recognized him as the hooded figure on the TV? “Oh yeah, I recognize those eyebrows, I’m going to call the police immediately,” doesn’t sound unusual to you?
I feel like he could be on TV but the majority of the public puts that in the back of their mind and not something they are looking out for. I really think it’s this guy and he had a message from his now deleted YouTube videos that were supposed to be released after he was caught. We will never know unless he shares more in court what is going on. The only lead I have seen is his review of Teds book, and how much it spoke of someone fed up with the system and making a point that “those who don’t stand up to commit violence are cowards or the accused” or among those lines.
I feel like he could be on TV but the majority of the public puts that in the back of their mind and not something they are looking out for.
You don’t need the majority to recognize him. Your just need a random distribution over a wide area.
We will never know unless he shares more in court what is going on.
“Everything to support the claim is made up” is going to be the rallying cry of an increasingly fringe group over time
He wasn’t traced there though? They just found a guy that conveniently had all that shit on him like come on
He wasn’t traced there though?
He was traced through the use of his fake ID and through security camera footage along the route he traveled. There were also plenty of sightings (some less reliable than others) that were coming into the police nationally. The tip off in Altoona was almost certainly not the only one made. He was observed on a cab security camera. He was sighted at a bus depot. And there were a few other data points police alluded to that weren’t made public. That rapidly narrowed down where he could have gone to next.
Not enough people wearing a mask in New York or Pennsylvania that it didn’t make him stand out. That, and he was tall, and the upper part of his face was all over the news for days straight.
That he had all his shit on him was unfortunate. But even if he’d dumped it, if it was on an observed route it would have just been one more data point for police to follow. Guy fought the law and the law won.
I think he wanted to be caught.
Agree
It’s the handwritten bit that I find hardest to believe, though. The guy studied AI at university and was involved in Game Design classes. He was a tech guy. Nobody who’s that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages. It just seems really odd.
Someone in IT would be intimately familiar with why you would want something like a manifesto to be offline.
Nobody who’s that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages.
Seems like a guy with a background in tech and a significant concern over his privacy would be exactly the kind of person to keep his heretical most views on paper rather than online. The guy had basically dropped off the web for months prior to the assassination.
Being an IT guy makes you not use real pens or paper? The amount of cope for this guy is unreal. That’s just stupid.
Handwriting is more intimate and allows for better expression through the script. For something so personal, it sounds perfect. I love handwriting, do it regularly and I’ve been intimate with computers more than once ;)
As an IT guy: I love and hate handwriting things. I get the point about intimacy but especially for longer texts expressing many connected thoughts I would never do it by hand. Being able to edit text, switch around blocks of text etc etc is so ingrained in me that doing this by hand frustrates me greatly.
Yeah, I didn’t like taking handwritten notes (until I got an e-ink tablet) during lectures because of that.
Though as I started doing audits I got better at writing with proper spacing and anticipating where something is missing, so it gets better.
Traced to Pennsylvania? You got a source for that? This is not the cops I’ve ever met.
The rest of y’all really not have a few manifestos just laying around?
If the internet ever finds that McDonald’s employee, I predict they will not be happy about it.
AFAIK it was a customer, not an employee. If it had been the latter, that location would quickly get a serious image problem.
The employee that called it in been all over the news today.
Already does I believe, new one star reviews saying it has a rat problem.
It has some 1 stars before all of this too.
Well, that is one way to put it.
From AP News:
In a news release, police say officers made contact with the man who was then arrested on unrelated charges
Same old shit, just come up with something like “he took 31 minutes in the dining area so we got out the batons”
Article in question. AP news has like 5 articles all about this single investigation.
The ‘unrelated charges’ were possessing fake IDs and an unregistered firearm.
But this opens a whole new can of worms. You’re telling me he was smart enough to evade capture for a week, but wasn’t smart enough to ditch the ghost gun he had used in the murder?
It smells like turned off body cams and planted evidence.
This. I don’t believe it. Why wouldn’t he at least stash the gun and papers somewhere instead of keeping that shit on him?
Gotcha, thanks for the info!
"Sell out your own, cattle!
Maybe we’ll throw you a milkbone!"
He recognized that guy from that picture they populated? I don’t think so.
Not ironic at all. It’s by design.
Can’t go through life just assuming every single person you meet is going to be a Team Player.
Says something that he made a half a week and across state lines without anyone ratting on him sooner.
I think they mean we’ve been propagandized to undermine, oh I’m sorry, “compete with,” one another instead of having any social solidarity.
We’d be a threat to the owners as they hurt us for profit if we all understood the reality that they’re our common enemy.
For Profit Media: left right, old young, black white, gay straight, beat eachother bloody, poories!
…just don’t look up.
Context? Or is it just a random AF tweet?
The suspect in the insurance ceo assassination was arrested in a McDonald’s
Commit murder -----> Mac Donalds, players gotta eat
Didn’t the Parkland shooter go to McDonald’s after he did the school shooting?
A Masters in Engineering from University of Pennsylvania.
Imagine if Luigi also made the move to hand the bounty to someone who needs it.
They definitely won’t try to delay paying it or denying the tip led to a conviction. Not at all. Nope
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It’s been updated, it was an employee.
I see, my mistake.
No worries! It was only updated recently.
