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      North American racial categories don’t translate directly to the apartheid regime in Israel-Palestine. There are Jewish Israelis of colour and Muslim Palestinians who look like your average white person (cf. Ahed Tamimi).

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      TL;DR American healthcare has middlemen extracting profit as a rule, and are the only developed country where that is the case.

      But if we’re judging the quality vs. cost of the healthcare itself, excluding people who won’t be given healthcare because it’s an apartheid state is fairly reasonable, because we’re comparing the ‘civilized’ healthcare systems and their efficiency.

      If you want to compare disparity in healthcare you’re going to need a much more complicated matrix; comparing between class, ethnicity, and religion within a country, and then also between countries, would probably give you a better answer…and it would still end in America ridiculously overpaying for shitty healthcare.

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    Dude that’s weak sauce. Good for people for living longer. Good for everyone involved.

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    Oh, so you’re saying they completed a successful test run of socialized medicine using US tax dollars and proven it effective? Sounds like we’re ready for a national rollout.

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    What an incredible country, USA USA USA! 🇺🇸 🔫🧈

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      What that link states is ‘Experts refute claims that Israelis get free US medical treatment’, which is unrelated to the OP post.

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        OPs post is a picture of a life-expectancy chart with the refuted claim written in large red letters.

        Look, I’m very much for ending giving money to Israelis, but they don’t need to make up reasons why we should

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          For reference, the title is:

          ISRAELIS HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE FUNDED BY AMERICAN TAX PAYERS, WHICH GIVES THEM 5 YEARS OF EXTRA LIFE COMPARED TO THE AMERICANS

          The fact-check link explains that Israelis don’t have privileged access to the USA healthcare system, not how the Israeli healthcare system is financed. But it’s an obvious clickbait title: are 4 years difference, not five, and wherever the money comes (USA transference, Israeli working class, plundering of Palestine…) don’t change the fact that it’s better and 34 times cheaper than the USA healthcare system.

          Edit: typo

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    I thought the reason they were raising the social security age was because “people are living longer”. That is what I just read yesterday.

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      It’s a bit complicated, but yes and no. Is life expectancy in the us falling? Yes. Is life expectancy still longer than when the previous social security age was chosen? Also yes. And also factor that baby boomers are going to draw from it soon, and the middle class is shriking pushing people into poverty, that means a smaller amount of people who can’t be taxed as high. Also law makers are plundering the funds and putting in IOU’s they never intend to honor, to fund other things, using treasury bonds.

      So right now social security will falter around 2030, and the pay out will fluctuate depending on how much the current work force can be charged. At that moment, it looks like 20% lower, and it will fall from there unless things change

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    I think this is a great point but a massive hole in the argument that would be honed in on by anyone disputing it would be the fact that Israel’s population is less than 3% the US population