• Zachariah@lemmy.world
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    … with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car’s manual. It’s unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.

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      not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors

      That sounds… Well, fucking stupid.

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        But it saves money - and that’s certainly more important for Musk than a well-produced vehicle

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      In the 80s we had this little crank. Car didn’t need to be on. Crank wasn’t electric. Crank was kid-powered. Your dad just yelled at you. “HEY!!! ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN BACK THERE!!! YA LITTLE SHIT!!!”

      And you knew it was serious, because cars back then didn’t have A.C unless you were rich. So it was 90 degrees and the inside of the car was 110. Because YOU said we should put the reflective cover in the winshield, so it wouldn’t get so hot in the car, but nooooooooo, dad said you’d only be a minute in the store. Then you come back out 45 minutes later. Which as you know, in kid time is several weeks. So now it’s hot in the car. And the seat vynal is burning your legs, because you wore shorts.

      And so you ask if you can just open the car doors for a while before you get in, but noooooooo we got places to be.

      And so now you’re getting yelled at, to crank both windows down because SOMEONE is being an asshole.

      But at least you’re not burning in a vehicle with no way out!

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        So the earth has always been hot…

        EDIT: reminder to never again make a bad joke about climate change on liberal social media

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          I think it was more of a long way to say “manual windows and door handles have worked since cars were invented, why are we reinventing the wheel and introducing new fail points on something like a door handle by making it electric?”

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            We should be asking this with everything, honestly. We don’t need an electronic juice bag presser that “needs” to be connected to your wifi in order to work, or a fridge with a giant screen and camera on the inside so you can look at what’s in the fridge without gasp opening the door!

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            manual windows and door handles have worked since cars were invented

            Technically untrue: the first cars didn’t have doors at all.

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          Sure, if you think of the car as the earth, the windshield as greenhouse gases, and our political leaders/you as the dad having no idea what the hell they’re talking about.

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    As a European i wonder how lack of mechanical opening could pass safety norms.

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    in 20 years nobody will be buying a tesla because theyll have killed off their repeat buyers

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      When Elon’s DOGE kills the economy, I don’t know who he thinks will be able to buy his shit. Maybe he can sell in Europe.

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        He won’t care, it’s all a game to him. He has already moved on from Tesla. I’d be surprised if a new model came out at this point.

        Perhaps people who truly believe they are in a simulation shouldn’t be allowed to play the game.

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    Tesla car doors have manual releases in the front doors but not in the rear doors. Or rather, there are manual releases in the rear doors but they are hidden under a hatch under the rubber matting in the door bins so effectively nobody is going to find them in an emergency. So if your car is on fire and you’re injured or panicking & you’re unaware about the manual release then you’re going to die. Now to be fair, the front manual release in the Tesla model 3/Y is fairly discoverable (it’s a handle above the electric windows) but it’s not so obvious in older models. The Cybertruck has similar manual releases as the 3/Y but with toughened glass I wonder how long before we see someone drown or burn to death and bystanders were unable to rescue them.

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      Aren’t the emergency release in some models behind the speaker grills? And others not present unless you have a higher tier package? (Talking about rear doors)

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        I hadn’t checked all models but I knew that in the model Y there is a rubber mat in the door bin, that you remove, and under that is a hatch and under that is something you can pull. I had a look at the model X manual and it does seem to be under a panel by the speaker. So either way it is basically impossible for rear occupants (or front occupants who retreat to the back) to open those doors in an emergency.

        The simple answer would be to put manual releases front, back and on the hatch. I assume that when a Tesla crashes it isolates the power, so it would also be necessary for things like door locks to automatically disengage, or be disengaged by the manual release otherwise that’s no good either.

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          I mean, why not have a pre drive safety checklist for every drive in the backseat of a Tesla.

          Sadly it would seem their built form over function - handles in plain sight to open the doors in case of an emergency seem to be a no brainer; but I’m not any sort of safety engineer.

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    So can we officially put Teslas down as worse than the Pinto, cause im pretty sure theyve killed more folks than the Pinto and its magic gas tank.