"Voters in liberal strongholds across the country, from city centers to suburban stretches, failed to show up to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris at the levels they had for Joseph R. Biden Jr. four years earlier, contributing significantly to her defeat by Donald Trump,” the New York Times reports.

“Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation’s most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.”

“The drop-off spanned demographics and economics. It was clear in counties with the highest job growth rates, counties with the most job losses and counties with the highest percentage of college-educated voters. Turnout was down, too, across groups that are traditionally strong for Democrats — including areas with large numbers of Black Christians and Jewish voters.”

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      If we truly live in a democratic state, shouldn’t the onus of be on the candidate to capture the desires and will of the electorate and not the duty of the citizen to vote for the party?

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        It’s both. And a candidate failing to earn your vote doesn’t absolve you of the responsibility to protect democracy from a fascist when the situation presents itself.

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          Politicians mobilize voters, not the other way around. A politician failed to effectively mobilize. The strategy isn’t just “make everyone vote”, it’s to get people to care. The genocide isn’t a single issue to be ignored, it’s 43k reasons to not vote for either candidate.

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              Why do you disagree? He mobilized the same number of voters, consistent over 3 elections. He got them to care, by borrowing leftist aesthetics to push class division.

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                Do you seriously think that Trump’s campaign “mobilized voters”?

                Your cognitive dissonance is insane if so.

                He lied and promised shit he had no intention of delivering on. Hands fucking down.

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                  Why do you believe that what he did wasn’t mobilization? Enough people voted for him that he won, that’s called mobilization.

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          If that’s the point you inferred from my post, you’ve grossly misread

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              I tell you that you’ve misunderstood me and you’re telling me “I disagree, I know what point you are trying to make”?

              Oh boy, buddy, I need your thoughts and opinions like a hole in the head, good luck!

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                Do you need a reality check? Let’s get one:

                • The US isn’t winning any contests for being “the best” at anything at anytime soon except…
                • We enable billionaires to increase wealth, and…
                • we further elect people who believe that allowing said billionaires to have a say in public policy.

                You’re an absolute fucking idiot if you think anything else is happening right now.

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      I’m glad all that AIPAC money was worth it. Good thing Kamala had the fundraising edge over Trump. It sure did her a lot of good.

      It turns out that while, “vote for my candidate. She may be Mussolini, but at least she’s not Hitler. She’s the objectively better choice!” may be objectively true, it’s a shit campaign strategy and message.

      Don’t ask people to vote for something they consider cartoonishly evil and then be surprised when they refuse.

      Enjoy your Trump administration, all you dems who honestly expected LEFT WING VOTERS to just be OK with a genocide.

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    I think it’s less lack of voter turnout and more that 2020 pushed vote by mail hard due to the covid restrictions. That ended up inflating the turnout, and I’m sure you know, when more people vote, Democrats win.

    Without that same VBM push, turnout dropped.

    2020:

    Biden - 81,283,501
    Trump - 74,223,975

    2024* (so far):

    Trump - 74,846,364
    Harris - 71,259,005

    Trump never relied on vote by mail, and, in fact, told his supporters not to do it. His numbers didn’t effectively change +622,389 out of 74,846,364 = +0.8%

    Joe DID and now we see the results… 10 million lost votes.

    But look at states who are 100% vote by mail already:

    Oregon 2020:
    Biden - 1,340,383
    Trump - 958,448

    Oregon 2024* (so far):
    Harris - 1,155,481
    Trump - 861,020

    But in a state like PA that went hard for vote by mail in 2020 and not so much in 2024:

    Pennsylvania 2020:
    Biden - 3,458,229
    Trump - 3,377,674

    PA 2024:
    Trump - 3,511,865
    Harris - 3,366,829

    Harris is dead last out of all 4 numbers.

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      Your numbers don’t show that it’s vote by mail. Kamala lost ~ 13% compared to Biden nationwide and in your example vote by mail state Oregon she lost ~14%

      California isn’t in yet but doing some rough math she looks like she’ll get ~9 million total compared to Biden who got over 11 million, so around an 18% drop in another very heavy vote by mail state.