• metaStatic@kbin.earth
    38·
    4 days ago

    Maj. Gen. Hammond: “Colonel, the United States is not in the business of interfering in other people’s affairs.” Colonel O’Neill: “Since when, sir?”

    • Australis13@fedia.io
      3·
      3 days ago

      The Time Lords (in the classic series, at least) behaved similarly to Starfleet (IIRC, they even established a non-interference rule after the events described in “Underworld”). The Doctor would no doubt agree with SG1’s goals much of the time, just not their methods (with the exception of the Sixth Doctor, I can’t recall any of them actually using a gun).

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
        3·
        3 days ago

        They were much stricter than Starfleet. They believed in total non-interference, just observation. That’s why the Celestial Intervention Agency was formed, so the High Council could secretly interfere.

  • marcos@lemmy.world
    15·
    4 days ago

    A war going on changes everything, doesn’t it?

    Anyway, the people they were sharing with weren’t naive societies that didn’t know there was life elsewhere on the galaxy. For those ones, they just presented themselves, warned about their enemies, and moved on trying to make the minimum possible impact.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      5·
      3 days ago

      Everyone knows that you convert people by sending a single priest and having him wave at you and say “ar warw”. Then you get a different colored shirt and join the good side

  • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
    5·
    4 days ago

    Technically in Stargate there were actual gods… though they predated upon the prayers offered to them iirc.

    Oh wait no, that was it’s sequel, Atlantis.

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    Oh wait no, that was pretty much the entire thing:-).

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    • SatyrSack@feddit.orgEnglish
      22·
      3 days ago

      They were just aliens. Goa’uld, Ancients, Ori, etc. The franchise made it clear that none were actual gods; they were each just a different species that had abilities and technology that humans do not. And they would often use those to make others think that they were gods.

      EDIT: I guess you could argue that Ascension makes one a god

      • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        Ascension is what I meant in my first part yes, and then in the second I ofc meant “gods” in quotes like that:-).

        iirc Ascension makes one into literally a higher being as in existing on a higher plane somehow. So basically bacteria compared to humans, at which point yeah calling them gods (in comparison at least) seems to somewhat fit. Or like, at that point there seems no functional difference?

        Tron explored that a bit: the “players from the real world” being a class of higher-dimensionality being than themselves as mere programs. And then I suppose even more than that would be the programmers who literally created the artificial world.

        So by extension, what about like those bacteria that we genetically design, to produce higher insulin for example - although not a perfect one bc we only inserted a gene in that particular case - are we not “gods” to them?

        And that’s where Star Trek really comes in to shine in such a formulation, where they explored that via the holodeck: they literally created beings (such as Moriarty) along with their entire worlds and existences - every person, every molecule of air that they breathe, every single thought inside of their heads, etc. - and then whenever they choose they shut it all down and walk away, going back to work on a Monday. And don’t the higher beings have that “right”, to shut it down and go back to work? Or must they leave every world that they create running, for its own sake? Hence they act as literal gods to them, deciding the fate of their entire universe on a mere whim.

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 days ago

        Well IIRC the ascended where just a previous generation of humans, they still weren’t all knowing and all powerful, in fact anubis tricked them into helping him ascend, they were just smarter more advanced humans who managed to figure out becoming eternal by becoming energy based beings.

        • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          I thought Ascension was far more than becoming merely energy based, and somehow indicating living in a higher dimensionality space, thus transcending the limitations of existence in mere 3d (+1 time) space as energy-based beings never could - the latter being merely a different form but within the same dimensionality space.

          I never studied the lore though, just watched the shows a few times:-).