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    I see so many people talking about passports and moving. I’m on a fixed income, and barely got an apartment with my mom cosigning. I’m fucking stuck in a red state and I feel so fucking screwed.

    Also lets stop acting like most of the voters were misled, lied to, bamboozled into voting for trump. They saw the racism, sexism, hate, and disrespect for the law and others and they LIKED IT. They want this. They aren’t idiots they’re fascists.

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      It’s important to remember there are 340 million people in the US. Only 70 million, counted so far, voted for Trump. Of those 70 million people, many of them will also be targeted by the fascists, who make up a minority of that group. We outnumber the fascists. We do a disservice to ourselves and others by making it seem otherwise.

      The number one polled issue for Republican voters was the economy. They got duped by Fox fucking News. Jokes on them when the Republicans inevitably tank the economy.

      The real question is will the mass deportations or the tariffs do it first. Hopefully the tariffs. If we’re going to be dysfunctional as a country, we might as well do it before making camps.

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        Conversely, at most 68 million people voted for Harris. That means roughly 270 million people either didn’t vote or voted for fascists, which means they’re either so disenfranchised they couldn’t vote, are idiots, were scared for their livelihoods and lied to (meaning they’re still idiots, but at least they’re also cowardly), or are fascists themselves.

        I don’t know when we’ll learn, but given our ever-deteriorating education system I don’t think it’ll be anytime soon.

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          There’s no sense in lashing out at nonvoters. We need to organize in order to make a difference.

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            No sense, but I’d like to see the morons who kept bullshitting that there is any kind of sense in not voting. The dumbest fucking people anywhere

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              It’s hard to understate how fucking awful the accelerationism was this last year.

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                  A burning building doesn’t get put out by watching it burn. And the fire can in fact spread to the next building. Things can always get worse because there is no bottom. Things will only get better by making them better.

                  The accelerationists got what they wanted. And everyone, including them, are worse off for it. We’ve gone from not utilizing the limited time window, to avert the worst of climate change, to choosing to use that time to pollute as much as possible. We may in fact succeed in reaching 5°C before 2100.

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                  Accelerationists have never been right, their argument is self-defeating.

                  The heart of the accelerationist argument is equating red and blue, claiming the blues’ inability to completely undo the damage of the reds is intentional and makes them no better – that the purpose of a system is what it does.

                  But by that logic, the purpose of accelerationism is to enable fascist ascent, and that makes them indistinguishable from fascists.

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                  It’s likely because of them that this was the outcome. 81M votes for Biden in 2020 and 10K less this year when it really mattered?

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    I know. hug I know.

    I’m super terrified myself. I’m scared. I don’t know what I’ll do.

    Except for one thing: I’ll survive. GodDAMN that motherfucker I’ll survive. Even if I have to survive just to spite him, TRUMP WILL NOT CLAIM MY LIFE. >:(

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      Me too. Although I’m not out yet. I’m thinking I’ll need to scramble, now, to put in my name/passport changes before I potentially lose the chance. Of course, I don’t pass, don’t have the wardrobe, makeup or body to pass. I wanted to wait a little longer before coming out, lose weight, fix my shit, you know. Don’t have the money to do anything, change anything how I want.

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        Well, one silver lining is that at least this can serve as motivation to jump-start your journey. We need more silver linings…

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          We sure do… I’ve been on hrt for over a year now, at least, so there’s that.

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    Yeah umm, me and my spouse are now creating a plan to at least get us to the most blue state we can but… fuck

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    I’m a straight milquetoast white bloke so I can’t really talk, and I’m not American so I didn’t really have a say, but I feel so sorry for everyone effected by this.

    The US just turned around and put themselves back 70 years, if not more. How fucking hard is it to accept people for who they are? Is that country really so self centered and stupid?

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      It’s a combination of the right-wing infosphere brainwashing people and systemic flaws in our democracy that allow for minority rule. A minority of the population in key states needed to fed Republican propaganda for decades and that’s what happened.

      Unfortunately, this will have global implications. Trump’s foreign policy will allow dictators to do whatever they want. If anyone reading this knows a place they can go where they can be safe, don’t let me stop you. But, this is going to allow dictatorships to carve the world into spheres of influence.

      The way we push back against this is by organizing.

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      Don’t go thinking you’re unaffected! This election has sealed the fate of the entire world in regards to being destroyed by climate change.

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      I would encourage you to not assume votes for Trump were necessarily endorsements of what he stands for. My vote for Harris certainly wasn’t an endorsement of her policies (such as pro-Israel, pro-fracking, etc.). Like many people, I vote for the lesser evil.

      Lots of people are voting Trump out of anger about inflation and price-gouging. Sure, his base is made up of bigoted individuals, but I’m talking about the people who voted for Obama, Trump in 2016, Biden in 2020, and Trump in 2024 - these voters are mostly working class folks, they are more diverse than you would think, and they are mostly upset about the economy and punishing the incumbent for not taking better care of them.

      We can criticize these voters until we’re red in the face and there are plenty of legitimate critiques, but it’s helpful to remember the rage of poor people rarely gets channeled in healthy or constructive ways. I believe Frantz Fanon noted this about the violence that boils up in response to colonial imperialism, and while it doesn’t directly apply here, I think there are some similarities worth considering.

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    anybody outside the us want to adopt a cute trans girl? I’m partially housetrained already! and I only bite occasionally.

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      Might be a good time to check your documents, make sure you have a U.S. passport, that it isn’t expired, etc.

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        You mean to train, as in training to make good pancakes without premade mixes, or to train as in it’ll drive you all the way to Rheinland-Pfalz

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          The first, well if you replace the it’ll with I’ll(or from your point of view you’ll) that would also be in the cards.

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            Aaah I see.

            I know this is mostly a joke, but making pancakes with nice and reasonable people sounds really really nice.

            Just imagine! We’d meet up, play Settlers of Catan and make pancakes!? And maybe we’d watch a movie?!?

            That would be super cool! Like this -> (🥰😎🤩😍🥘🦄💖)

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              You can count me in, i dont get the chance to play catan often :(

              Well it started mostly as a Joke/Support, but if ich_iel manages to plan a meetup, i dont see why we couldn’t, atleast with the fellow Germans/Surrounding Countries :)

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    I feel ill. I wish I could go back to sleep, but I’m too wound up on fear and trepidation.

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    I hope not too many of us die or suffer a lot. But I feel powerless to help much.

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    I feel sorrow for my brothers and sisters and enby pals who will have to endure these uncertain times.

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      thanks - maybe consider contributing to their mutual aid networks so they can afford DIY hormones, so they can be housed when fleeing red states, etc.

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    I don’t know what I can do to help anyone, are there any organisations which directly protect, or perhaps help relocate at risk trans people that I can throw money at?

    I had a look through the listed resources on the post election post but nothing jumped out to me, perhaps I missed something though.

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    And here I was thinking that my egg cracked too late to be a part of the civil rights movement.

    I was planning on moving to Washington, but I really wanted another year or two to get things together first. Looks like that’s not an option anymore.

    Speaking of, does anyone know of any good mutual aid groups that could use a hand in the Olympia region?

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    It’s hard to know what to say. Just know that you aren’t alone and you still have support from many millions of allies, even if it may not feel like it right now.

    I weep for every woman, minority, and member of the queer community who tried to stop this. It sickens me to witness fascism growing not just in America, but the world over.

    There are truly scary times ahead. Stay strong ❤️

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      Not funny nor useful thing to answer.

      OP, i’m so sorry and frightened. I hope you’ll have a great community to survive this and build a better society by the example.

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    I like how accepting the world is a very dark place, where you work hard for your own points of light, helps me appreciate how dark this day is while being minimally affected emotionally. Feels to me that being more comfortable with darkness/bad luck/mortality/terror/“The bad parts about being human” (or whatever you want to call it) gives me more space and safe-environment (in mindspace) to understand how completely screwed some things are. Stay strong & Good luck ❤️

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      yeah, I dunno - that just sounds like detachment from the looming consequences, which can sometimes be easy (at least for me, dissociation seems to be a common coping mechanism for me) but it is unwise if it prevents you from taking the necessary actions to protect yourself.

      I was in good spirits even after Pennsylvania was called for Trump early this morning, so I get it. Feeling worse after some sleep, though.